Re: [Bacula-users] Compression ratio

2006-09-27 Thread Janco van der Merwe
By Client compression do you mean the Compression=GZIP or the default 
compression? My Bacula is pretty much still default nothing special at this 
pointwell apart from the amount of data being backed up. If it is not 
possible at this point is there a possibility in the near future for Bacula to 
include the ratio, by that I mean will it be possible for the Bacula to include 
the ratio from the Hardware? 

Janco v.d Merwe
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Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Compression ratio

On Wednesday 27 September 2006 08:15, Janco van der Merwe wrote:
 On my previous e-mail that I sent to the forum I showed you the amount of 
data that was backed up to a single LTO3 tape and I received a request from 
the management to see if I, or rather Bacula, can't give the compression 
ratio details in the notification e-mail. I went through the manual to see if 
there is a way but I can't find it, most probably missed it, but is there a 
way that I can do that?  

Bacula provides the compression ratio if you turn on Client compression, which 
I don't recommend especially with the results you are getting.  With hardware 
compression, Bacula has insufficient information.

  
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Re: [Bacula-users] Compression ratio

2006-09-27 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

On 9/27/2006 9:08 AM, Janco van der Merwe wrote:
 By Client compression do you mean the Compression=GZIP or the default 
 compression? My Bacula is pretty much still default nothing special at this 
 pointwell apart from the amount of data being backed up. If it is not 
 possible at this point is there a possibility in the near future for Bacula 
 to include the ratio, by that I mean will it be possible for the Bacula to 
 include the ratio from the Hardware? 

That won't be possible, I guess.

There's no reliable way of determining the compression ratio the drives 
hardware achieves. (Well, there might be ways for distinct devices, but 
nothing portable or even standardized as far as I know.)

Actually, the compression ratio you achieve has noting to do with 
Bacula. I's just a thing between the tape drive and, most important, 
your data.

Storing plain text data on a tape with harware compression tends to 
result in very high compression ratio. If you manage to get 1 TB of mp3s 
onto a LTO3 tape I'd be rather astonished as that data should not be 
compressible.

Keep in mind that what the manufactures say about compressed capacity 
usually has a clause like typically... assuming a compression ratio of 
2:1 or, case of Sony, 2.6:1. That's not much more than an educated 
guess with lots of marketing language added to it :-)

Anyway, the only reliable way of determining the effective compression 
ratio is comparing the tapes uncompressed capacity (which you'd have to 
measure on a per-tape basis) and the capacity you achieve with 
compressed data.

Arno

 
 Janco v.d Merwe
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 Dunns Stores (PTY) Ltd
 Switchboard: 011 541 3000
 Direct: 011 541 3007
 Fax: 086 632 1708
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kern Sibbald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 27 September, 2006 08:29
 To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Cc: Janco van der Merwe
 Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Compression ratio
 
 On Wednesday 27 September 2006 08:15, Janco van der Merwe wrote:
 
On my previous e-mail that I sent to the forum I showed you the amount of 
 
 data that was backed up to a single LTO3 tape and I received a request from 
 the management to see if I, or rather Bacula, can't give the compression 
 ratio details in the notification e-mail. I went through the manual to see if 
 there is a way but I can't find it, most probably missed it, but is there a 
 way that I can do that?  
 
 Bacula provides the compression ratio if you turn on Client compression, 
 which 
 I don't recommend especially with the results you are getting.  With hardware 
 compression, Bacula has insufficient information.
 
 
 
Janco v.d Merwe
Network Administrator
Dunns Stores (PTY) Ltd
Switchboard: 011 541 3000
Direct: 011 541 3007
Fax: 086 632 1708
 


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