Re: [Bacula-users] Incremental backup, not accurate?

2006-11-15 Thread Jaap Stolk
On 11/15/06, Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

 I read in the bacula docs that incremental backups use modification
 times to decide if it or doesn't backup. For example and as it is said
 in the doc, a mv  on a directory doesn't change the modification time.
 So, if I am not wrong,  incremental backup are not accurate?
 If this is true, how do you come over this? (except avoiding the use of
 mv)


 Thanks you!

(I just started using Bacula, so I don't know if this is actually possible!)
I also looked into this same problem. I solution I was thinking
about is to let Bacula run a check to compare the real data with the
backup. this should produce a nice list of file and directories that
are different. I then can then touch these files, so the will be
backuped in the next incremental backup.

Does anyone know is this is possible?
I'm running Bacula on Debian Linux, use file volumes (on the Debian
box) and all clients are winXP.

Jaap.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Incremental backup, not accurate?

2006-11-15 Thread Martin Simmons
 On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:53:47 +0100, Michel  said:
 
 I read in the bacula docs that incremental backups use modification 
 times to decide if it or doesn't backup. For example and as it is said 
 in the doc, a mv  on a directory doesn't change the modification time. 
 So, if I am not wrong,  incremental backup are not accurate?
 If this is true, how do you come over this? (except avoiding the use of 
 mv)

Incremental backups use the ctime as well as the mtime by default, so it
depends on whether mv changes the ctime (some file systems do, some don't).

If Bacula does detect the moved file then there is also a problem with
restoring from incrementals, because it will create two copies of the file,
with the old and the new names.

There is currently no way around this, so regular full backups are advisable.

__Martin

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