[Bacula-users] New User: Usability questions

2006-11-15 Thread David W Borhani

Hi, I am considering using bacula for
my laboratory data backups. A few questions on whether it will work with
my hardware, and regarding a few features:

1.Will my hardware work w/ bacula?
Tape
DriveCybernetics CY-8102 AIT2 8 mm
tape drive, 50/150 GB, *** iSCSI ***
System
   Linux
Redhat EL4, 2.6. kernel

2. How fast can bacula find a file on
a tape to restore (i.e., does it fast-forward to the right spot on the
tape, or does it read through at the regular [slow] read/write
speed)? Can it restore a file from the end of the tape in a few minutes,
instead of hours?

3. How are files written onto tape?
Like (multiple) tar files, w/ filemarks. Or some other sort of format?
In other words, can a bacula-written tape be recovered w/ tar (or some
other standard, simple Linux utility) if needed?

I had purchased and was planning to
use Cybernetics Accelerated File Access (CYAFA) software, which I had used
before and had liked. Simple but fast.

And, CYAFA can fast-forward to the end
of a tape, if that's where the file that you want to restore is located,
in one or two minutes (!), unlike tar, which would take hours.

However, it turns out that CYAFA does
not work with iSCSI, only direct SCSI. So, I have a choice of getting different
software (bacula certainly looks very nice!), or swapping the tape drive
out for a regular SCSI version (to Cybernetics credit, they'll do it for
free) and then using CYAFA.

Thanks for answers and advice,

Dave

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Re: [Bacula-users] New User: Usability questions

2006-11-15 Thread Dan Langille
On 15 Nov 2006 at 14:49, David W Borhani wrote:

 Hi, I am considering using bacula for my laboratory data backups. A few 
 questions on whether it will work with my hardware, and regarding a few 
 features:
 
 1.Will my hardware work w/ bacula?
 Tape Drive  Cybernetics CY-8102 AIT2 8 mm tape drive, 50/150 
 GB, *** iSCSI ***
 System  Linux Redhat EL4, 2.6. kernel

I have no idea.  :)

 2. How fast can bacula find a file on a tape to restore (i.e., does it 
 fast-forward to the right spot on the tape, or does it read through at 
 the regular [slow] read/write speed)? Can it restore a file from the end 
 of the tape in a few minutes, instead of hours?

Bacula can fast-forward, if your OS/Tape drive allow it.  Adjust your 
bacula-dir.conf file during the tape testing stage to get this 
behaviour.

 
 3. How are files written onto tape? Like (multiple) tar files, w/ 
 filemarks. Or some other sort of format? In other words, can a 
 bacula-written tape be recovered w/ tar (or some other standard, simple 
 Linux utility) if needed?

Yes to the last question.  See bls and bextract.

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my resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php



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Re: [Bacula-users] New User: Usability questions

2006-11-15 Thread Michel Meyers
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David W Borhani wrote:

 Hi, I am considering using bacula for my laboratory data backups. A few
 questions on whether it will work with my hardware, and regarding a few
 features:

 1.Will my hardware work w/ bacula?
 Tape DriveCybernetics CY-8102 AIT2 8 mm tape drive,
 50/150 GB, *** iSCSI ***
 SystemLinux Redhat EL4, 2.6. kernel

Normally, if a drive works in Linux (as SCSI drive) it also works with
Bacula. See the tape testing section in the manual (
http://www.bacula.org/dev-manual/Testing_Your_Tape_Drive.html#_ChapterStart27
) if you want to make sure. Maybe somebody else on the list has already
tried it with an iSCSI drive?

 2. How fast can bacula find a file on a tape to restore (i.e., does it
 fast-forward to the right spot on the tape, or does it read through at
 the regular [slow] read/write speed)? Can it restore a file from the end
 of the tape in a few minutes, instead of hours?

If the drive supports it, Bacula puts regular filemarks onto the tape,
allowing it to fast forward to the 'chunk' that contains the file.

 3. How are files written onto tape? Like (multiple) tar files, w/
 filemarks. Or some other sort of format? In other words, can a
 bacula-written tape be recovered w/ tar (or some other standard, simple
 Linux utility) if needed?

No. Bacula does not use tar, it has its own data format. You can create
a rescue CD allowing you to perform bare-metal restores of a crashed
director (with that you'll be able to restore the rest). Bacula also
has tools to rebuild the catalog data from the tapes (bscan) and restore
data (bextract).

Hope that's helpful and that I got everything together correctly.

Greetings,
 Michel
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Re: [Bacula-users] New User: Usability questions

2006-11-15 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

On 11/15/2006 8:58 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
 On 15 Nov 2006 at 14:49, David W Borhani wrote:
 
 
Hi, I am considering using bacula for my laboratory data backups. A few 
questions on whether it will work with my hardware, and regarding a few 
features:

1.Will my hardware work w/ bacula?
Tape Drive  Cybernetics CY-8102 AIT2 8 mm tape drive, 50/150 
GB, *** iSCSI ***
System  Linux Redhat EL4, 2.6. kernel
 
 
 I have no idea.  :)

It should work as long as you use the standard devices to access the 
tape drive, i.e. /dev/nst0 for the tape drive.

Using the capabilities like fast seeking should work, too, but if it 
does I don't understand why the manufacturers own software can't do it.

 
2. How fast can bacula find a file on a tape to restore (i.e., does it 
fast-forward to the right spot on the tape, or does it read through at 
the regular [slow] read/write speed)? Can it restore a file from the end 
of the tape in a few minutes, instead of hours?
 
 
 Bacula can fast-forward, if your OS/Tape drive allow it.  Adjust your 
 bacula-dir.conf file during the tape testing stage to get this 
 behaviour.

Better advust the bacula-sd.conf file :-)
By the way, it's not really very time consuming to download the bacula 
source (or rpm for your platform), install bacula, set up the SD and run 
the tests you'll run anyway once you decide to give it a try.

Testing the tape drive does not require a full Bacula setup with catalog 
database, jobs, and schedules.

 
3. How are files written onto tape? Like (multiple) tar files, w/ 
filemarks. Or some other sort of format? In other words, can a 
bacula-written tape be recovered w/ tar (or some other standard, simple 
Linux utility) if needed?
 
 
 Yes to the last question.  See bls and bextract.

Of course, bls and bextract are not exactly standard unix utilities. But 
then, tar isn't, too, unless you use the right version with the correct 
options... I would even go so far to say that Bacula tape format is 
better portable than a tar archive. For tar, you'd need to know lots of 
details - which tar (gnu, posix, certain unix flavor), which options, 
which version. This happens, of course, once you need to read a tar 
archive after the last machine with insert unix flavor here died and 
you really need the data...

Arno

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