[Bacula-users] Relabel a Tape (Because of a typo)

2007-09-04 Thread Server Gremlin
Hello,

I used the label command to label a new tape for bacula, and I 
made a typo when I labeled the tape.  Something like MyTpe instead of 
MyTape.  (Obviously I've chosen a better naming convention than this, 
but just to illustrate...)

Bacula is so cool that it automatically mounts the tape and starts 
writing pending jobs to it as soon as I hit enter.  Then I realize that 
I made a typo.  How do I correct this?  I get the impression from 
Googling and RTFM'ing that the answer is a flat, You can't.  Don't make 
typos.  Am I right?

Thanks,
- SG

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Re: [Bacula-users] Relabel a Tape (Because of a typo)

2007-09-04 Thread Mike Eggleston
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007, Server Gremlin might have said:

 Hello,
 
 I used the label command to label a new tape for bacula, and I 
 made a typo when I labeled the tape.  Something like MyTpe instead of 
 MyTape.  (Obviously I've chosen a better naming convention than this, 
 but just to illustrate...)
 
 Bacula is so cool that it automatically mounts the tape and starts 
 writing pending jobs to it as soon as I hit enter.  Then I realize that 
 I made a typo.  How do I correct this?  I get the impression from 
 Googling and RTFM'ing that the answer is a flat, You can't.  Don't make 
 typos.  Am I right?
 
 Thanks,
 - SG

Will the bconsole command 'relabel' do what you want?

Mike

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Re: [Bacula-users] Relabel a Tape (Because of a typo)

2007-09-04 Thread Server Gremlin
Mike Eggleston wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Sep 2007, Server Gremlin might have said:

   
 Hello,

 I used the label command to label a new tape for bacula, and I 
 made a typo when I labeled the tape.  Something like MyTpe instead of 
 MyTape.  (Obviously I've chosen a better naming convention than this, 
 but just to illustrate...)

 Bacula is so cool that it automatically mounts the tape and starts 
 writing pending jobs to it as soon as I hit enter.  Then I realize that 
 I made a typo.  How do I correct this?  I get the impression from 
 Googling and RTFM'ing that the answer is a flat, You can't.  Don't make 
 typos.  Am I right?

 Thanks,
 - SG
 

 Will the bconsole command 'relabel' do what you want?

 Mike

   
I don't think it will.  It sounds like the relabel command actually 
requires you to first trash the volume; ie, remove it from the pool, 
remove any data on it, etc.  It's like starting over.  I don't want to 
do that.  I have jobs running on the tape.  In fact, one job was 
part-way done on one tape, it filled that tape, and then I put in this 
new tape on which I fubar'ed the label.  All I want to do is rename the 
tape.  Can I do that?  I get the feeling I can't.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Relabel a Tape (Because of a typo)

2007-09-04 Thread Michel Meyers
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Server Gremlin wrote:
 I don't think it will.  It sounds like the relabel command actually 
 requires you to first trash the volume; ie, remove it from the pool, 
 remove any data on it, etc.  It's like starting over.  I don't want to 
 do that.  I have jobs running on the tape.  In fact, one job was 
 part-way done on one tape, it filled that tape, and then I put in this 
 new tape on which I fubar'ed the label.  All I want to do is rename the 
 tape.  Can I do that?  I get the feeling I can't.

You can, but it involves some hackery and is of course completely
unsupported.

Step one: Shut down Bacula.
Step two: edit the volume's name in the SQL database (everywhere you
find it).
Step three: Start btape and use the 'writelabel' command to write the
new label to the tape.
Step four: Start Bacula again.

At this point, you should have your tape with the label you wrote to it
and the database showing the new name. I cannot guarantee though that
this won't wipe your data or screw up your catalog in some way.

Greetings,
 Michel
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Re: [Bacula-users] Relabel a Tape (Because of a typo)

2007-09-04 Thread Server Gremlin
Michel Meyers wrote:
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 Server Gremlin wrote:
   
 I don't think it will.  It sounds like the relabel command actually 
 requires you to first trash the volume; ie, remove it from the pool, 
 remove any data on it, etc.  It's like starting over.  I don't want to 
 do that.  I have jobs running on the tape.  In fact, one job was 
 part-way done on one tape, it filled that tape, and then I put in this 
 new tape on which I fubar'ed the label.  All I want to do is rename the 
 tape.  Can I do that?  I get the feeling I can't.
 

 You can, but it involves some hackery and is of course completely
 unsupported.

 Step one: Shut down Bacula.
 Step two: edit the volume's name in the SQL database (everywhere you
 find it).
 Step three: Start btape and use the 'writelabel' command to write the
 new label to the tape.
 Step four: Start Bacula again.

 At this point, you should have your tape with the label you wrote to it
 and the database showing the new name. I cannot guarantee though that
 this won't wipe your data or screw up your catalog in some way.

 Greetings,
  Michel
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Thanks, Michel.  I had a feeling that such was the case.  Sounds like 
I'd probably be better off living with the error in the tape label, and 
just being aware in the future that I REALLY need to watch what I'm 
typing when labeling a tape.

Or I could somehow pause bacula (I assume there is a way to do this so 
it won't run pending jobs), remove the tape from the pool and format it, 
then put it back into the pool and start over.  And this time I'd be 
extra careful to type the label correctly.  The only problem with this 
method is that I lose all my backup data

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Re: [Bacula-users] Relabel a Tape (Because of a typo)

2007-09-04 Thread Timo Neuvonen
 I don't think it will.  It sounds like the relabel command actually
 requires you to first trash the volume; ie, remove it from the pool,
 remove any data on it, etc.  It's like starting over.  I don't want to
 do that.  I have jobs running on the tape.  In fact, one job was
 part-way done on one tape, it filled that tape, and then I put in this
 new tape on which I fubar'ed the label.  All I want to do is rename the
 tape.  Can I do that?  I get the feeling I can't.


 You can, but it involves some hackery and is of course completely
 unsupported.

 Step one: Shut down Bacula.
 Step two: edit the volume's name in the SQL database (everywhere you
 find it).
 Step three: Start btape and use the 'writelabel' command to write the
 new label to the tape.
 Step four: Start Bacula again.

 At this point, you should have your tape with the label you wrote to it
 and the database showing the new name. I cannot guarantee though that
 this won't wipe your data or screw up your catalog in some way.

 Greetings,
  Michel


 Thanks, Michel.  I had a feeling that such was the case.  Sounds like
 I'd probably be better off living with the error in the tape label, and
 just being aware in the future that I REALLY need to watch what I'm
 typing when labeling a tape.

 Or I could somehow pause bacula (I assume there is a way to do this so
 it won't run pending jobs), remove the tape from the pool and format it,
 then put it back into the pool and start over.  And this time I'd be
 extra careful to type the label correctly.  The only problem with this
 method is that I lose all my backup data

Maybe you could consider labeling the tapes in advance in the future? Thus, 
if you realize there is an error, you can relabel the tape before it is 
taken into use.

Btw, does Bacula now have some tools for transferring backup data from one 
volume into another? Migration or something like that... haven't ever 
needed it, but maybe it could help here?


Regards,
Timo 



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Re: [Bacula-users] Relabel a Tape (Because of a typo)

2007-09-04 Thread Michel Meyers
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Arno Lehmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 04.09.2007 20:56,, Timo Neuvonen wrote::
 I don't think it will.  It sounds like the relabel command actually
 requires you to first trash the volume; ie, remove it from the pool,
 remove any data on it, etc.  It's like starting over.  I don't want to
 do that.  I have jobs running on the tape.  In fact, one job was
 part-way done on one tape, it filled that tape, and then I put in this
 new tape on which I fubar'ed the label.  All I want to do is rename the
 tape.  Can I do that?  I get the feeling I can't.

 You can, but it involves some hackery and is of course completely
 unsupported.

 Step one: Shut down Bacula.
 Step two: edit the volume's name in the SQL database (everywhere you
 find it).
 Step three: Start btape and use the 'writelabel' command to write the
 new label to the tape.
 
 This will probably write an EOD mark after the label, and thus making 
 the tape unusable for restores... if it doesn't, it will be pure luck 
 if the new label block ends at the right location, so that the tape 
 drive can recognize the following EOF mark and the following data... 
 i.e., I wouldn't do this without some testing before.

That's the kind of stuff I feared. I've only done this operation on
blank tapes (ie labeling it wrongly, then immediately correcting it).

Greetings,
   Michel
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Re: [Bacula-users] Relabel a Tape (Because of a typo)

2007-09-04 Thread Ryan Novosielski
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Michel Meyers wrote:
 Arno Lehmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 04.09.2007 20:56,, Timo Neuvonen wrote::
 I don't think it will.  It sounds like the relabel command actually
 requires you to first trash the volume; ie, remove it from the pool,
 remove any data on it, etc.  It's like starting over.  I don't want to
 do that.  I have jobs running on the tape.  In fact, one job was
 part-way done on one tape, it filled that tape, and then I put in this
 new tape on which I fubar'ed the label.  All I want to do is rename the
 tape.  Can I do that?  I get the feeling I can't.

 You can, but it involves some hackery and is of course completely
 unsupported.

 Step one: Shut down Bacula.
 Step two: edit the volume's name in the SQL database (everywhere you
 find it).
 Step three: Start btape and use the 'writelabel' command to write the
 new label to the tape.
 This will probably write an EOD mark after the label, and thus making 
 the tape unusable for restores... if it doesn't, it will be pure luck 
 if the new label block ends at the right location, so that the tape 
 drive can recognize the following EOF mark and the following data... 
 i.e., I wouldn't do this without some testing before.
 
 That's the kind of stuff I feared. I've only done this operation on
 blank tapes (ie labeling it wrongly, then immediately correcting it).
 
 Greetings,
Michel

Sorry to join this late, but the relabeling option in btape fix this
problem pretty easily? I don't remember where all of this stuff gets
stored, but it seems like it might do fine.

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