Re: [Bacula-users] Unchanged files still saved in incremental backup
Cedric Tefft a écrit : Run stat on one of those older files. Look at the ctime. Is it very recent -- perhaps a day or less? By default, bacula uses both the mtime and ctime of a file to determine if it has been changed. If EITHER one of those is newer than the last backup, bacula will include the file in an incremental. That's it ! I have the change time updated. Thanks. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Unchanged files still saved in incremental backup
The problem occurred after a while, here's an history that illustrates what's happening : 09/14: Backup Level: Full FD Files Written: 6,489 on 09/15 and 09/16: Backup Level: Incremental, since=2009-09-15 23:00:15 FD Files Written: 50 09/17: Backup Level: Incremental, since=2009-09-16 23:00:19 FD Files Written: 6,403 le dahut wrote : Hello, I have some unchanged files that are saved in incremental backup. I've joined a screenshot of BAT where : * all backup are selected * a file is selected as you can see the file has been saved by a Full backup and then by all the Incremental backups while its HASH didn't change. Any idea about this ? Klaas -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Unchanged files still saved in incremental backup
le dahut a crit: The problem occurred after a while, here's an history that illustrates what's happening : 09/14: Backup Level: Full FD Files Written: 6,489 on 09/15 and 09/16: Backup Level: Incremental, since=2009-09-15 23:00:15 FD Files Written: 50 09/17: Backup Level: Incremental, since=2009-09-16 23:00:19 FD Files Written: 6,403 Hello, The history posted by "Le dahut" is from one of my servers. Up to job 158, all is ok, but from job 159 to now, all incremental job save all files form the server. I don't remember of any change made on this server. Could you please help me pointing out what causes this behaviour ? Here is output from list jobs : +---+---+-+--+---+--++---+ | JobId | Name | StartTime | Type | Level | JobFiles | JobBytes | JobStatus | +---+---+-+--+---+--++---+ | 145 | Complet | 2009-09-09 23:00:18 | B | I | 38 | 482736927 | T | | 146 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-09 23:03:14 | B | I | 1 | 2122452 | T | | 147 | Complet | 2009-09-10 23:00:14 | B | I | 35 | 495902190 | T | | 148 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-10 23:03:18 | B | I | 1 | 2127364 | T | | 149 | Complet | 2009-09-11 23:00:18 | B | I | 30 | 509068387 | T | | 150 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-11 23:03:06 | B | I | 1 | 2131224 | T | | 151 | Complet | 2009-09-12 23:00:15 | B | I | 4 | 119612 | T | | 152 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-12 23:00:26 | B | I | 1 | 2132278 | T | | 153 | Complet | 2009-09-14 23:00:19 | B | F | 6489 | 1697721788 | T | | 154 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-14 23:09:25 | B | F | 1 | 3030589 | T | | 155 | Complet | 2009-09-15 23:00:15 | B | I | 40 | 535440246 | T | | 156 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-15 23:03:10 | B | I | 1 | 3035675 | T | | 157 | Complet | 2009-09-16 23:00:19 | B | I | 50 | 548589398 | T | | 158 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-16 23:03:38 | B | I | 1 | 3040256 | T | | 159 | Complet | 2009-09-17 23:00:18 | B | I | 6403 | 1741831107 | T | | 160 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-17 23:07:26 | B | I | 1 | 3932193 | T | | 161 | Complet | 2009-09-18 23:00:16 | B | I | 6404 | 1754962885 | T | | 162 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-18 23:09:46 | B | I | 1 | 4822642 | T | | 163 | Complet | 2009-09-19 23:00:15 | B | I | 6392 | 1754962241 | T | | 164 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-19 23:07:21 | B | I | 1 | 5712462 | T | | 165 | Complet | 2009-09-21 23:00:17 | B | F | 6495 | 1768194861 | T | | 166 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-21 23:07:35 | B | F | 1 | 6613785 | T | | 167 | Complet | 2009-09-22 23:00:17 | B | I | 6420 | 1781428592 | T | | 168 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-22 23:07:41 | B | I | 1 | 7507620 | T | | 169 | Complet | 2009-09-23 23:00:15 | B | I | 6422 | 1781498512 | T | | 170 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-23 23:09:53 | B | I | 1 | 8404378 | T | | 171 | Complet | 2009-09-24 23:00:16 | B | I | 6414 | 1794000219 | T | | 172 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-24 23:10:23 | B | I | 1 | 9303727 | T | | 173 | Complet | 2009-09-25 23:00:18 | B | I | 6426 | 1807203607 | T | | 174 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-25 23:10:12 | B | I | 1 | 10204850 | T | | 175 | Complet | 2009-09-26 23:00:15 | B | I | 6412 | 1807202849 | T | | 176 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-26 23:10:22 | B | I | 1 | 11103760 | T | | 177 | Complet | 2009-09-28 23:00:19 | B | F | 6518 | 1820408191 | T | | 178 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-28 23:10:26 | B | F | 1 | 12014707 | T | | 179 | Complet | 2009-09-29 23:00:14 | B | I | 6447 | 1833600210 | T | | 180 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-29 23:10:32 | B | I | 1 | 12028842 | T | | 181 | Complet | 2009-09-30 23:00:15 | B | I | 6449 | 1846846346 | T | | 182 | BackupCatalog | 2009-09-30 23:10:52 | B | I | 1 | 12931769 | T | | 183 | Complet | 2009-10-01 23:00:17 | B | I | 6464 | 1860085451 | T | | 184 | BackupCatalog | 2009-10-01 23:09:59 | B | I | 0 | 0 | E | | 185 | Complet | 2009-10-02 23:00:16 | B | I | 6764 | 1888696137 | T | | 186 | BackupCatalog | 2009-10-02 23:09:37 | B | I | 0 | 0 | E | | 187 | Complet | 2009-10-03 23:00:17 | B | I | 6750 | 1888695390 | T | | 188 | BackupCatalog | 2009-10-03 23:10:50 | B | I | 1 | 14841233 | T | +---+---+-+--+---+--++---+ -- Guillaume Hnin : guillaume.he...@ac-rouen.fr Rectorat de Rouen - Division Informatique 25 rue de Fontenelle 76000 ROUEN Fax : 02.32.08.94.12 Mail assistance : accueil.mi...@ac-rouen.fr Site assistance : http://ecare.ac-rouen.fr -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Re: [Bacula-users] Unchanged files still saved in incremental backup
Bacula uses the file date to determine which files have changed. So a file with a future file date would be backed up by each incremental backup. Since you say that your file was NOT backed up on 9/15 and 9/16, my guess is that some application may be opening the file for writing without actually making a change. Whatever application is responsible for that probably wasn't running on 9/15 and 9/16. le dahut wrote: The problem occurred after a while, here's an history that illustrates what's happening : 09/14: Backup Level: Full FD Files Written: 6,489 on 09/15 and 09/16: Backup Level: Incremental, since=2009-09-15 23:00:15 FD Files Written: 50 09/17: Backup Level: Incremental, since=2009-09-16 23:00:19 FD Files Written: 6,403 le dahut wrote : Hello, I have some unchanged files that are saved in incremental backup. I've joined a screenshot of BAT where : * all backup are selected * a file is selected as you can see the file has been saved by a Full backup and then by all the Incremental backups while its HASH didn't change. Any idea about this ? Klaas -- Kevin Keane Owner The NetTech Find the Uncommon: Expert Solutions for a Network You Never Have to Think About Office: 866-642-7116 http://www.4nettech.com This e-mail and attachments, if any, may contain confidential and/or proprietary information. Please be advised that the unauthorized use or disclosure of the information is strictly prohibited. The information herein is intended only for use by the intended recipient(s) named above. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the e-mail and any copies, printouts or attachments thereof. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Unchanged files still saved in incremental backup
Kevin Keane a écrit : Bacula uses the file date to determine which files have changed. So a file with a future file date would be backed up by each incremental backup. Since you say that your file was NOT backed up on 9/15 and 9/16, my guess is that some application may be opening the file for writing without actually making a change. Whatever application is responsible for that probably wasn't running on 9/15 and 9/16. No. The history posted by Le Dahut does not end on 9/17. Beginning from 17/09, all files are backed up every day with incremental backup whatever the mod date is (I have some files that has not been modified since 2k8 and bacula backup these files every day). My problem is : - Everything worked fine until 9/16 - Bacula saves every files on incrmental since 9/17 (see list jobs in my previous mail) - Files have not been modified between backups - bacula calculate identical hashes on each backup - Incremental backup are real incremental, bacula doesn't upgrade to a full (more precisely, bacula doesn't report an upgrade). I don't know how I can see what makes bacula think files have been modified. Maybe it is possible to log more to see what triggers backup of my files ? -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Unchanged files still saved in incremental backup
Guillaume_h wrote: Kevin Keane a écrit : Bacula uses the file date to determine which files have changed. So a file with a future file date would be backed up by each incremental backup. Since you say that your file was NOT backed up on 9/15 and 9/16, my guess is that some application may be opening the file for writing without actually making a change. Whatever application is responsible for that probably wasn't running on 9/15 and 9/16. No. The history posted by Le Dahut does not end on 9/17. Beginning from 17/09, all files are backed up every day with incremental backup whatever the mod date is (I have some files that has not been modified since 2k8 and bacula backup these files every day). Run stat on one of those older files. Look at the ctime. Is it very recent -- perhaps a day or less? By default, bacula uses both the mtime and ctime of a file to determine if it has been changed. If EITHER one of those is newer than the last backup, bacula will include the file in an incremental. For example: lithium:/data/temp dir testfile -rwxr-xr-x 1 cedric cedric 2.1K 2004-06-24 08:01 testfile lithium:/data/temp stat testfile File: `testfile' Size: 2137Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: fe03h/65027dInode: 2899Links: 1 Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 500/ cedric) Gid: ( 500/ cedric) Access: 2009-09-30 22:02:46.005409891 -0700 Modify: 2004-06-24 08:01:58.0 -0700 Change: 2009-10-05 19:10:58.90135 -0700 - Cedric -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
