Re: [Bacula-users] reload command

2023-06-06 Thread Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users

On 6/5/23 12:13, Phil Stracchino wrote:


Bill, I would if I could, but I haven't run into it in a long time
because (a) I have an established practice of restarting the Director
when feasible after significant configuration changes (which does not
include Filesets, Schedules, new Clients etc), and (b) it's been a long
time since I've needed to make any significant configuration changes.
But I do recall that when I was developing and tuning my configuration,
especially things like tweaking tape storage devices, spooling etc, if I
applied too many changes via reloads without a restart in between, the
Director would become unresponsive.

Unfortunately I can't really recall any more detail than that.


Hello Phil,

No worries, I fully understand. :)


Best regards,
Bill

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Re: [Bacula-users] reload command

2023-06-05 Thread Phil Stracchino

On 6/5/23 10:46, Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users wrote:

On 6/2/23 08:59, Phil Stracchino wrote:

Based on personal experience, after reloading I also recommend
restarting the Director when opportunity presents itself.  (i.e when
there are no running jobs).  I have found in the past that after
multiple reloads, stability deteriorates.  It SHOULDN'T, in theory, but
nevertheless sometimes it does.


Hello Phil,

For the record, and for completeness, do you think you can describe some of the 
things that seem to become unstable?

I am asking out of curiosity because I don't believe I have seen this, and who 
knows, maybe I have and just didn't make the
correlation and your experiences might turn on a light bulb. :)



Bill, I would if I could, but I haven't run into it in a long time 
because (a) I have an established practice of restarting the Director 
when feasible after significant configuration changes (which does not 
include Filesets, Schedules, new Clients etc), and (b) it's been a long 
time since I've needed to make any significant configuration changes. 
But I do recall that when I was developing and tuning my configuration, 
especially things like tweaking tape storage devices, spooling etc, if I 
applied too many changes via reloads without a restart in between, the 
Director would become unresponsive.


Unfortunately I can't really recall any more detail than that.


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Re: [Bacula-users] reload command

2023-06-05 Thread Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users

On 6/2/23 08:59, Phil Stracchino wrote:


Keep in mind that a reload will not affect already-running jobs, and
*some* changes may not take effect in already *scheduled* jobs.


All true. :)

And some settings (just a few that I am aware of) in the Director actually 
require a restart to take affect.



Based on personal experience, after reloading I also recommend
restarting the Director when opportunity presents itself.  (i.e when
there are no running jobs).  I have found in the past that after
multiple reloads, stability deteriorates.  It SHOULDN'T, in theory, but
nevertheless sometimes it does.


Hello Phil,

For the record, and for completeness, do you think you can describe some of the 
things that seem to become unstable?

I am asking out of curiosity because I don't believe I have seen this, and who 
knows, maybe I have and just didn't make the
correlation and your experiences might turn on a light bulb. :)


Best regards,
Bill

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Re: [Bacula-users] reload command

2023-06-05 Thread Yateen Shaligram Bhagat (Nokia)
Thanks Phil & Pedro,

Yes, even I experienced that after few reloads, bacula-dir restart is required.

-Yateen

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On 6/2/23 09:57, Pedro Oliveira wrote:
> Hi Yateen
>
> Yes it works but only for configurations changes made on Director 
> "Bacula-dir.conf", for the other Daemons we need to restart the daemons.
>
> Best
>
> Pedro Oliveira


Keep in mind that a reload will not affect already-running jobs, and
*some* changes may not take effect in already *scheduled* jobs.

Based on personal experience, after reloading I also recommend restarting the 
Director when opportunity presents itself.  (i.e when there are no running 
jobs).  I have found in the past that after multiple reloads, stability 
deteriorates.  It SHOULDN'T, in theory, but nevertheless sometimes it does.


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Re: [Bacula-users] reload command

2023-06-02 Thread Phil Stracchino

On 6/2/23 09:57, Pedro Oliveira wrote:

Hi Yateen

Yes it works but only for configurations changes made on Director 
"Bacula-dir.conf", for the other Daemons we need to restart the daemons.


Best

Pedro Oliveira



Keep in mind that a reload will not affect already-running jobs, and 
*some* changes may not take effect in already *scheduled* jobs.


Based on personal experience, after reloading I also recommend 
restarting the Director when opportunity presents itself.  (i.e when 
there are no running jobs).  I have found in the past that after 
multiple reloads, stability deteriorates.  It SHOULDN'T, in theory, but 
nevertheless sometimes it does.



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Re: [Bacula-users] reload command

2023-06-02 Thread Pedro Oliveira

Hi Yateen

Yes it works but only for configurations changes made on Director 
"Bacula-dir.conf", for the other Daemons we need to restart the daemons.


Best

Pedro Oliveira

Às 13:43 de 02/06/23, Yateen Shaligram Bhagat (Nokia) escreveu:


Hi All,

Just want to know if “bconsole reload” command works when jobs are 
running.


In my observation it does not, correct?

Regards,

Yateen Bhagat



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[Bacula-users] reload command

2023-06-02 Thread Yateen Shaligram Bhagat (Nokia)
Hi All,

Just want to know if "bconsole reload" command works when jobs are running.
In my observation it does not, correct?

Regards,
Yateen Bhagat
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