Smoking
I hope I can get away with one off-topic question which I'd like the answer to. My question is why governments (like US for example) haven't banned the sale of cigarettes. If they care about the health and well-being of society it would be a good idea. Why is it that many less problematic drugs are banned from sale by the FDA but the government allows cigarettes to be sold? I understand that cigarettes are not a product the FDA rules on. Am I not mistaken that if evaluated by FDA standards cigarettes would be banned? The FDA bans products that do good if risks of bad effects are high enough. Smoking does no good and has high risks.
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Re: Resurrection of Christ
why don't the resurrection narratives have the disciples going deaf and blind after Jesus died and then receiving sight and hearing? Shouldn't there be some consistency? Also, why aren't there any stories of the disciples being deaf and blind initially? I suggest that these are the verses being referred to. After the crucifixion, Mary Magdalene went to the garden and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. (John 20:14) She thought Him to be the gardener. That is, she saw Him but did not recognize Him. Then in John 20:16 and 20:18 Mary recognizes her Lord and realizes He is eternal in being. She returns and tells the disciples, and they see Him (John 20:20). Also after the crucifixion, two believers were walking on the road to Emmaus; suddenly Jesus was walking with them, but they did not recognize Him. Then they ate bread and their eyes were opened and they recognized Him: And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. But their eyes were held that they should not know him And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them. And their eyes were opened, and they knew him... Luke 24:13-31 Also in Luke Chapter 24 verses 39-44, the disciples eat bread with Jesus and believe in Him. Likewise during the days of Joseph there was a famine in the land of Canaan and the brothers of Joseph came to Him for food (Genesis 42:5). And Joseph saw his brethren, and he knew them, but made himself strange unto them, and spake roughly unto them; and he said unto them, 'Whence came ye?' And they said, 'From the land of Canaan to buy food.' And Joseph knew his brethren, but they knew not him. Joseph then gave them bread, and revealed Himself to His brothers, saying There will I nourish thee... And, behold, your eyes see. (Genesis 45:11-12). I have some notes on this at: http://bahai-library.com/?file=poirier_iqan_unsealing_bible that you may find useful. Use them as you wish. Brent The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Smoking
I bet the tobacco lobby has something to do with it. And the effect such a ban would have on the economies of the states where tobacco is grown. -G On 10/12/06, David Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope I can get away with one off-topic question which I'd like the answer to. My question is why governments (like US for example) haven't banned the sale of cigarettes. If they care about the health and well-being of society it would be a good idea. Why is it that many less problematic drugs are banned from sale by the FDA but the government allows cigarettes to be sold? I understand that cigarettes are not a product the FDA rules on. Am I not mistaken that if evaluated by FDA standards cigarettes would be banned? The FDA bans products that do good if risks of bad effects are high enough. Smoking does no good and has high risks. David The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. Need more speed? Get Xtra Broadband! The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu -- There are no poets __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Smoking
Indeed. And we are exporting more tobacco these days than is being consumed in the U.S. Tobacco,by the law, is not a drug; therefore, the FDA has nothing to with its regulation.Regards, ScottGilberto Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet the tobacco lobby has something to do with it. And the effectsuch a ban would have on the economies of the states where tobacco isgrown.-GOn 10/12/06, David Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I hope I can get away with one off-topic question which I'd like the answer to. My question is why governments (like US for example) haven't banned the sale of cigarettes. If they care about the health and well-being of society it would be a good idea. Why is
it that many less problematic drugs are banned from sale by the FDA but the government allows cigarettes to be sold? I understand that cigarettes are not a product the FDA rules on. Am I not mistaken that if evaluated by FDA standards cigarettes would be banned? The FDA bans products that do good if risks of bad effects are high enough. Smoking does no good and has high risks. David The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have
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Re: Resurrection of Christ
This risen Christ issue was very big to him, I suppose in contrast to images of Catholic crucufixes. Dear Karen, That's kind of a one-upsman thing Protestants sometimes use against the Catholics. They claim because they (Protestants) wear empty crucifixes it represents the resurrection as opposed to the Catholic crucifixes which depict Jesus being crucified. But the original reason they didn't put Jesus on the cross is because they objected to the use of figurative icons because they considered then idolatorous. I could not help but think of Mary, who as I recall, was the catalyst to calming the diciples afterward, in that she recognized He indeed lived on in the faith imbued in them. It has always been my thought that the visions of Him were not physical events but spiritual insights. If we are talking about a vision, I'm not sure what physical versus spiritual means. Visions are not physical to begin with. But there is a long tradition both in the gnostic texts and in the orthodox canon of Jesus appearing after the crucifixtion as a being of light. In fact, He apparently was appearing to early Christians so frequently that Luke felt he had to put a lid on it by saying that Jesus ascended after thirty days (and therefore these appearances should stop.) warmest, Susan The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Resurrection of Christ
Yes Susan, I am in agreement that visions are not accepted as physical matter. Was it not the misinterpreted seeing of Him that was understood to be a physical body resurrected, rather than the spiritual vision of spiritual matter? warmly, karen --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we are talking about a vision, I'm not sure what physical versus spiritual means. Visions are not physical to begin with. But there is a long tradition both in the gnostic texts and in the orthodox canon of Jesus appearing after the crucifixtion as a being of light. In fact, He apparently was appearing to early Christians so frequently that Luke felt he had to put a lid on it by saying that Jesus ascended after thirty days (and therefore these appearances should stop.) warmest, Susan The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
