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Susan: fair enough, it may not have been Baha'is who hurt Stephen, but someone
must have. Somehow his OCD, or whatever he has, has yielded a fixation on the
need to harangue people he has never met, for no particular reason other than a
few harmless theological differences. Baha'is after all are either right, or we
are a tiny harmless group of eccentrics, destined to share a dusty corner of
history with the Swedenborgians. A few people got their very delicate toes
stepped on by less than tactful people, and now we are on a level with the
great tyrannies of history. It depresses me and fascinates me all at once.
Stephen: I hope you find the right medicine or the right therapist; but don't
worry about us. If we are wrong in what we believe, we will fade slowly away
and never bother you or anyone else ever again. The folks I have known who have
apostatized have done so out of boredom and apathy, and cheerfully went away to
pursue other interests with scarcely a backward glance. But if we are right,
then I guess God is on our side. But you don't believe that, so stop worrying.
Peace,
Gary
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From: Susan Maneck sman...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 6:07 pm
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Gary,
Stephen has not really even had any interaction with a real Baha'i
community in person. He declared online but rather than become
involved in Baha'i community life he instead started interacting with
a lot of disaffected ex-Baha'is. That has sort of twisted his view of
the Faith.
warmest, Susan
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Gary Selchert ebedeyn...@aol.com wrote:
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Stephen: Logical people will side with logic; religious people will side
with the religion of their choice. Emotional people often fly their passions
in the guise of religion or logic or both. Sometimes religions and logic and
emotion work together to express truth passionately. Baha'is try to be
logical, but always in the service of what we worship. Individual
sensitivities do indeed get trampled smetimes in our pursuit of what we
believe to be the Divine Plan, inadvertantly by some or even uncaringly by a
few. We must have hurt you terribly to arouse such passions as drive your
religious logic.
GS
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From: Stephen Kent Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 12:52 pm
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If logic and religion conflict, people should side with logic and
rationality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_religion
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 14:41, Gary Selchert ebedeyn...@aol.com wrote:
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Hmmm...Logic is also not on our list of world religions. Have you ever been
diagnosed with OCD?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder
It's a treatable disorder.
GS
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Kent Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 12:19 pm
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Like just assuming since Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism,
Bahai Faith, Zoroastrianism, and Bayaniism are the only world religions
mentioned in the Baha'i Writings, they're the only world religions that
exist.
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 14:08, Stephen Kent Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com wrote:
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I generously bless people. It's what I do. Also, I'm trained in logic and
can notify people when they're using fallacies. Also, I'm an ex non dis
enrolled Baha'i who left because of the logical inconsistencies.
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...And yet you so often bless us with your comments. Why are we so blessed?
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From: Stephen Kent Gray skg_z...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thu, Apr 18, 2013 11:12 am
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Actually I only believe in Unitarian Universalism, Mahayana Nichiren
Buddhism, Religious Humanism, as my survey results if asked by a survey.
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 13:04, Mike Moum mike.m...@gmail.com wrote:
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You seem to study everything and commit to nothing. This can be a path to
insanity. I hope that is not your fate.
On 04/18/2013 11:37 AM, Stephen Kent Gray wrote:
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I really should study the implications of this. New religious movements,
religions founded in the eighteenth century or later, and their relationship
to post conventional morality.
Baha'i Faith, Cao Dai, Cheondogyo, Tenrikyo, Wicca, Sekai Kyuseikyo, Seicho-
No-Ie, Rastafari Movement or
