Re: Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
Thank you Brent. I was wondering what would be the subject of our next
devotional.
Richard.
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From: Brent Poirier Attorney
Shoghi Effendi wrote a beautiful prayer in Persian, enclosed with his
Naw-Ruz letter to the Persian friends in I believe 1955, which the House of
Justice translated for Mr. Khadem's article about the Mountain of God which
was published in the U.S. Baha'i News more than 30 years ago. It is
published in Mrs. Khadem's book about Mr. Khadem, a wonderful book, and
valuable reading before going on pilgrimage.
http://www.bahaibookstore.com/productdetails.cfm?PC=5736
Here is the translation of the Guardian's prayer.
Brent
This magnificent Edifice stands
facing Baha'u'llah's Most Great
Prison, extolled by the Pen of Glory
as the "Heaven of heavens," and looks
toward the Qiblih of the people of
Baha, that Spot within the Vale of
Security and Peace, the Plain of
`Akka, round which circle in adoration
the Concourse on high. To her right
are the hills of Galilee in which
nestles the childhood home of the
beautiful Christ, and the locality by
the banks of the Jordan River where He
who is the Spirit [Jesus] was called
to prophethood; and on her left, on
the crest of Carmel, are to be found
the Cave of Elijah and the exalted
Spot which was blessed by the
footsteps of the Most Holy Abha Beauty
and was ennobled through the
revelation of the Tablet of Carmel
from the treasury of the Pen of
Glory
High, immeasurably high is this
Shrine, the lofty, the most great, the
most wondrous. Exalted, immeasurably
exalted is this Resting-place, the
fragrant, the pure, the luminous, the
transcendent. Glorified,
immeasurably glorified is this Spot,
the most august, the most holy, the
most blessed, the most sublime
Upon thee, O Queen of Carmel, be
the purest, the most tender
salutations, the fairest, the most
gracious blessings! Glorified is He
Whose footsteps have ennobled the spot
whereon thou standest, Who ordained
thy Seat, and Who extolled thee in His
Tablet and Book. How great is the
potency of thy might, a might which
has bewildered the souls of the
favored ones of God and His
Messengers.
Methinks I behold thee in my
dreams established upon thy glorious
throne, attired in thy white raiment,
crowned with thy golden crown,
resplendent with the lights shining
within thee and around thee, calling
aloud in ringing tones and raising thy
voice between earth and heaven.
Methinks I perceive the souls of
the holy ones and of the dwellers of
the realms above hastening toward thee
with utmost joy, eagerness and
ecstasy, pointing to thee, circling
round thee, inhaling the perfume of
thy flowers and roses, seeking
blessing from the earth of thy
precincts, bowing their foreheads to
the ground before thee in recognition
of the majesty and glory which
surround the Holy Dust reposing within
thee, the Pearl which is enshrined in
thy bosom.
Blessed, immeasurably blessed is
the person who visits thee and circles
around thee, who serves at thy
threshold, waters thy flowers, inhales
the fragrance of holiness from thy
roses, celebrates thy praise and
glorifies thy station for the love of
God, thy Creator, in this hallowed and
radiant, this great, august and
wondrous age.
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Re: Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
>Dear Larry,
>I don't think there is any directive. But given the fact that so >many of
>Baha'u'llah and Abdu'l-Baha's prayers have yet to be >translated, why focus on
>the Guardian's. He could have written >anything in English he wished.
>warmest, Susan
Dear Susan,
I didn't give a reason in my earlier posting when I was asking for the English
version of Shoghi Effendi's prayer because at the time I didn't think it was
important but on reflection, perhaps it I should have given one. My reason for
asking was on behalf of a friend who is a linguist and has taken an interest in
studying the original Arabic language used by the Centers of the Covenant of
our Beloved Faith and to learn how some of these Writings are translated into
English. We were beginning a study of the Short Obligatory prayer in Arabic and
during our conversations he showed me the beloved Guardian's prayer in Arabic
which he came across in his studies. He casually indicated to me he wished he
had this in English so I was "taking a shot in the dark" so to speak to see if
the friends might help me obtain an English copy for him if one existed. So, in
a nutshell, that is why I was asking for an English copy of the beloved
Guardian's prayer. If it's not available, so be it.
Cheers and thank you and all the friends for responding to my questions from
time to time.
Larry
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Re: Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
> I'm not sure I find that a compelling argument. After all, if it
> were true, then the Guardian would have translated nothing at all.
Dear Scott,
I'm not sure I understand your logic here.
> I think it more likely that he wrote the prayers in Persian for
> the Persian friends, but never felt that they were important
> enough to translate when there were so many writings from the Bab
> and Abaha`u'llah and his grandfather Abdu'l Baha to justify
> spending his time on them.
I think that is what I'm saying.
warmest, Susan
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Re: Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
Shoghi Effendi wrote a beautiful prayer in Persian, enclosed with his
Naw-Ruz letter to the Persian friends in I believe 1955, which the House
of Justice translated for Mr. Khadem's article about the Mountain of God
which was published in the U.S. Baha'i News more than 30 years ago. It
is published in Mrs. Khadem's book about Mr. Khadem, a wonderful book,
and valuable reading before going on pilgrimage.
http://www.bahaibookstore.com/productdetails.cfm?PC=5736
Here is the translation of the Guardian's prayer.
Brent
This magnificent Edifice stands
facing Baha'u'llah's Most Great
Prison, extolled by the Pen of Glory
as the "Heaven of heavens," and looks
toward the Qiblih of the people of
Baha, that Spot within the Vale of
Security and Peace, the Plain of
`Akka, round which circle in adoration
the Concourse on high. To her right
are the hills of Galilee in which
nestles the childhood home of the
beautiful Christ, and the locality by
the banks of the Jordan River where He
who is the Spirit [Jesus] was called
to prophethood; and on her left, on
the crest of Carmel, are to be found
the Cave of Elijah and the exalted
Spot which was blessed by the
footsteps of the Most Holy Abha Beauty
and was ennobled through the
revelation of the Tablet of Carmel
from the treasury of the Pen of
Glory
High, immeasurably high is this
Shrine, the lofty, the most great, the
most wondrous. Exalted, immeasurably
exalted is this Resting-place, the
fragrant, the pure, the luminous, the
transcendent. Glorified,
immeasurably glorified is this Spot,
the most august, the most holy, the
most blessed, the most sublime
Upon thee, O Queen of Carmel, be
the purest, the most tender
salutations, the fairest, the most
gracious blessings! Glorified is He
Whose footsteps have ennobled the spot
whereon thou standest, Who ordained
thy Seat, and Who extolled thee in His
Tablet and Book. How great is the
potency of thy might, a might which
has bewildered the souls of the
favored ones of God and His
Messengers.
Methinks I behold thee in my
dreams established upon thy glorious
throne, attired in thy white raiment,
crowned with thy golden crown,
resplendent with the lights shining
within thee and around thee, calling
aloud in ringing tones and raising thy
voice between earth and heaven.
Methinks I perceive the souls of
the holy ones and of the dwellers of
the realms above hastening toward thee
with utmost joy, eagerness and
ecstasy, pointing to thee, circling
round thee, inhaling the perfume of
thy flowers and roses, seeking
blessing from the earth of thy
precincts, bowing their foreheads to
the ground before thee in recognition
of the majesty and glory which
surround the Holy Dust reposing within
thee, the Pearl which is enshrined in
thy bosom.
Blessed, immeasurably blessed is
the person who visits thee and circles
around thee, who serves at thy
threshold, waters thy flowers, inhales
the fragrance of holiness from thy
roses, celebrates thy praise and
glorifies thy station for the love of
God, thy Creator, in this hallowed and
radiant, this great, august and
wondrous age.
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Re: Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
> Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I did not know about
> that directive or I wouldn't have asked. Does anyone have a source
> where Shoghi Effendi says this?
Dear Larry,
I don't think there is any directive. But given the fact that so many
of Baha'u'llah and Abdu'l-Baha's prayers have yet to be translated,
why focus on the Guardian's. He could have written anything in English
he wished.
warmest, Susan
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Re: Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
Susan,
I'm not sure I find that a compelling argument. After all, if it were true,
then the Guardian would have translated nothing at all. I think it more likely
that he wrote the prayers in Persian for the Persian friends, but never felt
that they were important enough to translate when there were so many writings
from the Bab and Abaha`u'llah and his grandfather Abdu'l Baha to justify
spending his time on them.
Regards,
Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It's the same reason he discouraged people from displaying
> photos of himself.
Dear Scott,
I'm not sure it is the same. The Persian believers have entire prayer
books full of his prayers. We do have a couple of prayers written by
the Guardian. The one he wrote after the passing of Bahiyyih Khanum
comes especially to mind. I think we don't have translations of his
prayers into English for the same reason Baha'u'llah's Arabic Writings
are not translated into Persian. Baha'u'llah wrote Persian prefectly
well just as the Guardian wrote English perfectly well. If they wished
it in those languages they would have written it that way.
warmest, Susan
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Re: Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
Susan,
I find myself in perfect agreement with that.
Regards,
Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I did not know about
> that directive or I wouldn't have asked. Does anyone have a source
> where Shoghi Effendi says this?
Dear Larry,
I don't think there is any directive. But given the fact that so many
of Baha'u'llah and Abdu'l-Baha's prayers have yet to be translated,
why focus on the Guardian's. He could have written anything in English
he wished.
warmest, Susan
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Re: Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
> It's the same reason he discouraged people from displaying
> photos of himself.
Dear Scott,
I'm not sure it is the same. The Persian believers have entire prayer
books full of his prayers. We do have a couple of prayers written by
the Guardian. The one he wrote after the passing of Bahiyyih Khanum
comes especially to mind. I think we don't have translations of his
prayers into English for the same reason Baha'u'llah's Arabic Writings
are not translated into Persian. Baha'u'llah wrote Persian prefectly
well just as the Guardian wrote English perfectly well. If they wished
it in those languages they would have written it that way.
warmest, Susan
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Re: Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
>I believe Shoghi Effendi made a point of NOT translating His >prayers in >Persian, Arabic and Turkic to English. He knew the >Americans had a penchant >for turning Abdu'l Baha into "the Return >of Christ" and wished to avoid that >confusion about himself. >It's the same reason he discouraged people from displaying photos >of himself. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
I believe Shoghi Effendi made a point of NOT translating His prayers in
Persian, Arabic and Turkic to English. He knew the Americans had a penchant for
turning Abdu'l Baha into "the Return of Christ" and wished to avoid that
confusion about himself.
It's the same reason he discouraged people from displaying photos of himself.
Regards,
Scott
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Dear Friends,
Is there anywhere an English translation of this prayer by the Beloved Guardian
can be found? I hope the Arabic characters display properly when this is sent.
Thank you,
Larry
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Prayer by the Beloved Guardian found in a prayerbook Nasaimu'r-Rahman
Dear Friends,
Is there anywhere an English translation of this prayer by the Beloved Guardian
can be found? I hope the Arabic characters display properly when this is sent.
Thank you,
Larry
هُوَ اللهُ
رَبَّنا ومَلاذَنا أَزِلْ كُرُوبَنَا بِبُزُوغِ شَمْسِ وَعْدِكَ الكَرِيمِ
وَخَفِّفْ هُمُومَنا بِنُزُولِ مَلائِكَةِ نَصْرِكَ المُبِينِ وَأَنِرْ
أَبْصَارَنا بِمُشَاهَدَةِ آياتِ أَمْرِكَ العَظِيمِ. رَبَّنَا أَفْرِغْ عَلَيْنَا
صَبْراً مِنْ لَدُنْكَ. رَبَّنا افْتَحْ عَلَى وُجُوهِنَا أَبْوابَ السَّعَادَةِ
وَالرَّخَاءِ وَأَذِقْنَا حَلاوَةَ الهَنَاءِ وَارْفَعْنَا مَقَاماً أَنْتَ
أَوْعَدْتَنا بِهِ فِي صُحُفِكَ وَكُتُبِكَ. إِلَى مَتَى يا إِلهَنا هَذَا
الظُّلْمُ وَالطُغْيانُ، إِلَى مَتَى هذا الجَوْرُ وَالعُدْوانُ. هَلْ لَنَا مِنْ
مَأْمَنٍ إلاَّ أَنْتَ، لا وَحَضْرَةِ رَحْمَانِيَّتِكَ. أَنْتَ مُجِيرُ
المُضْطَرِّينَ، أَنْتَ سَمِيعُ دُعَاءِ المَلْهُوفِينَ، أَدْرِكْنا بِفَضْلِكَ
العَالَمِينَ وأَرْحَمَ الرَّاحِمْينَ.يا رَبَّنا الأَبْهى وَلا تُخَيِّبْ
آمَالَنَا يا مَقْصُودَ
نسائم الرّحمن
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