re: KJV quotes
Maybe someone knows if the Arabic translations of the Bible used by Baha'u'llah and the Master were based on the KJV English translation, or whether the Arabic Bibles in Their days were more scholarly and relied on the Hebrew OT and Greek translation of the NT. I would think the former. Brent __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KJV quotes
In a message dated 5/10/2004 8:39:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember some time ago saying something about 'Abdu'l-Baha using the KJV, and then being corrected by someone. But now that I think about that, this leads me to ask: why is the KJV quoted extensively throughout SAQ? Did 'Abdu'l-Baha just so happen to say what in Persian what would translate to exact KJV verses, or did the translators ignore what He actually said and just include quotes from the KJV? Dear David, I expect they just assumed that was the correct way to translate it. When the Iqan quotes the Bible it is exactly the same as the KJV. Did Baha'u'llah, in Persian, quote the Bible exactly as it would translate as in the English KJV? No, the Guardian made that decision. If so, it would appear to make the KJV the 'Baha'i Bible,' though Shoghi Effendi said it wasn't. Then it doesn't. warmest, Susan __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KJV quotes
Someone who knows Persian would need to compare the English and Persian texts. I just went and looked at it on the web: http://www.bahai.com/persian-library/Master/SAQ/fahrast.htm But I couldn't make any sense out of it. If anyone else, such as Khazeh, Iskandar or Ahang, can help out here, it would be appreciated. Regards, David _ Download MSN Messenger @ http://messenger.xtramsn.co.nz - talk to family and friends overseas! __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public)
Re: KJV quotes
David, At 03:10 PM 2/9/2004, you wrote: >>That would be interesting. I wouldn't have thought that was proper for a >>translator. I wonder which version, if any, He was using. He had three Bible's of >>His own as I recall.<< Someone who knows Persian would need to compare the English and Persian texts. I just went and looked at it on the web: http://www.bahai.com/persian-library/Master/SAQ/fahrast.htm But I couldn't make any sense out of it. Mark A. Foster * http://MarkFoster.net http://CompuServe.MarkFoster.name __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public)
Re: KJV quotes
Dear Mark, Of course, `Abdu'l-Baha delivered those table talks in Persian, not in English. I suppose that, >where `Abdu'l-Baha directly quoted from the Bible (as opposed to paraphrasing it), the translator >decided to use the Authorized/King James rendering. That would be interesting. I wouldn't have thought that was proper for a translator. I wonder which version, if any, He was using. He had three Bible's of His own as I recall. Regards, David _ Gaming galore at http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming ! __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public)
Re: KJV quotes
Hi, David, At 07:34 AM 2/9/2004, you wrote: >>Just wondering, if 'Abdu'l-Baha didn't use the KJV, why is SAQ full of Bible quotes >>that are word for word KJV? Occasionally there is paraphrase, which is different, >>but generally it's KJV.<< Of course, `Abdu'l-Baha delivered those table talks in Persian, not in English. I suppose that, where `Abdu'l-Baha directly quoted from the Bible (as opposed to paraphrasing it), the translator decided to use the Authorized/King James rendering. Mark A. Foster * http://MarkFoster.net http://CompuServe.MarkFoster.name __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.net/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.net/bahai-st http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist (public) http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (public)
