Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal

2009-02-28 Thread VidA
Hi,

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:23, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote:
 +1 for hosting PyCon India in other cities in coming years.

Suggestions for future events (maybe 2010/11(?)) :

+ Alternatively PyCon-India could be held multiple times in a year, in
each city which finds enough volunteers (read critical mass) to get
such an event going.
+ Heard a Colombian researcher (at the national coalition meet last
week) mention that they hold a day long event for Libre software
across 20 cities all over South America. They do this simultaneously
as a Libre s/w event.  Am not sure if a Python-only event will scale
that well across cities.

Anyway, ideas dont cost (not as much as implementing them :))



 The PyCon (US) used to accept everyone, including newbies; sometimes
 non-coders also coming as speakers.  They have tutorials targeting
 non-hard-core programmers.  Remember, Python is a language which can be
 learned within one month (or one week ? ;)

+1.


On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:56, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote:

 Best aim for the stars. In any case, I wanted to start us off. I'm not
 really clear on what a 'proposal' should contain as of now. We should trim
 down the aims though.

Yup, ground events/meets/(un)confs is definitely where the action and
(daresay) fun is :) My point was wrt the sponsors POV, who may (or
not) come on board in future, especially if promised the stars and
left undelivered. Not to suggest this will happen but a smaller set of
expectations is easier to achieve.  Maybe a stock-taking after the
event, if need be ??


 I think it should not become a Newbies only thing. People who have been
 hacking python for a long time should have good reason to come as well as
 the newbie.

true, this also depends on how the tracks/sessions are planned,
speakers, etc... which a structured conf has more control over, unlike
say an unconference (the analogy is probably not correct since the
focus is different for each event).


 Dedicated meaning that we're not planing to be part of a larger event like
 foss.in.

vielen danke for including low hanging fruit like me :)


@Bani : Hi *wave* long time no see :)

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Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal

2009-02-28 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:14 PM, VidA v...@svaksha.com wrote:
 Hi,

Maybe we should stick to the Wiki for the discussion with maybe weekly
reminders here that the discussion is going on there. :)

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Re: [BangPypers] Reply from David Goodger about PyCon

2009-02-28 Thread Ramdas S
Looks Fine,

Noufel, if you haven't already communicated, I think it will be good if you
do write into PSF and complete all formalities.

Let's get the modalities done, and announce at least a tentative date for
the first meeting to form a committee to manage the event, and take things
forward.

Ramdas

On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings people,
   I have pasted below the mail I received from David G. when I asked
 him about the conference. Do take a look. I didn't know that he was
 the directory of the PSF. :-}

 Thanks



 -
 Hi,

 I'm sure that you'll be welcome to use the PyCon name for a community
 conference in India. There are several other national or regional
 PyCons out there, and we encourage their proliferation. The only thing
 we want to avoid is competing events in the same region, so ask that
 you cooperate with all interested groups and operate in an open and
 inclusive manner.

 Please write to p...@python.org for official permission. Be sure to
 describe the type of conference -- the term PyCon is associated with
 a volunteer-run community conference. We can also offer subdomain
 registration; in.pycon.org could point to your server, or to a site on
 the server we're using for the US PyCon.

 Good luck!

 David Goodger
 PyCon 2009 Chair
 Director, Python Software Foundation


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Re: [BangPypers] Reply from David Goodger about PyCon

2009-02-28 Thread Ramakrishna Reddy
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Ramdas S ram...@developeriq.com wrote:
 Looks Fine,

 Noufel, if you haven't already communicated, I think it will be good if you
 do write into PSF and complete all formalities.

Noufel,  thanks for the initiative taken. But I guess the further
communication to PSF done with a prior consent with the BangPypers
members. I hope we dont rush things up and all the stakeholders in
this conference. Let us prioritise what should be done or can be
avioded  . Before we start communicating aggressively. We need to
collectively finilaze on many tasks and sub tasks. We can meet up on
the #Bangpypers on say Tuesday 4:30 PM IST.

 Eg.
o Programme Committee needs to be formed
o Call for Papers. ( how do we peer review the talks, tutorials ,
unlike Fsck.in, lets have a open review system of the talks)
o Date ( Call for Vote)
o Venue
o Communication to communities






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Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal

2009-02-28 Thread Ramakrishna Reddy
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, VidA v...@svaksha.com wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 09:28, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote:
   I checked out the page. I can probably pitch in for stuff like writing
   the proposal and talking to companies.

 i would help with the above (and the local media) but wanted to
 discuss some things on thelist instead of editing the wiki and
 annoying folks.

That would be great.

 Good ideas. I have a page at
 http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaProposalDraft which I'm working on.

 0. Should'nt this page include the proposed dates (September 4,5,6
 (Baiju M)) or is that still under discussion ?'
Yes , we need to finalise the dates. I guess we'll take it for a
discussion on the IRC . irc.freenode.org. #BangPypers

 1. The Aims listed on the Draft page are huge in terms of scope and
 would take more than one conference to achieve.

Heh. Its just a two day old wiki draft. give it some time to mature.
pythonists are very energetic. wait and watch its gonna be awesome.

 2. Would this be held only in Bangalore or would it be possible for
 local groups in different cities to hold their own 1/2/3 day events?

Usually the Original Pycon is given to user groups , who bid for it.
we'll BangPypers isnt still a society. So we dont hold an authority
.But we are intent to have a 3 day event. atleast I'm a +1 for a 3 day
event. As long as people  hold the event to spread python, I'm not
complaining.


 The ProposalForPyConIndia wiki page has a community discussion
 section with varying opinions. Before editing I wanted to clarify the
 following:

 0. Earlier discussions on this list gave an impression of the conf
 being open to all (read newbies) but this is not clear on this wiki
 page. Has that changed?
 1. Please clarify/define dedicated conference. (As in, is the pyconf
 open to people like me who dont code for a living and yet grok
 technical concepts?)

Thats an interesting point.  learn how to program ;-) It pays to be a
python programmer. We need to discuss it over IRC.  Ofcourse its open
to everybody. Unless we plan to hire bouncers to kick people out after
taking their entry fee. another discussion , Entry Fee , is also a
topic for discussion.



 +1 for the low budget, sans swag concept but some clarity on what is
 the scope of the event, since its being held here for the first time,
 would be a lot nicer.  The conf planning page was a nice read :) so
 how about a volunteers page ?

Lets Keep it volunteer run, low budget and Honest. So everybody can
participate. Lets make it happen folks.


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Re: [BangPypers] IDEs Presentation (was Re: Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?)

2009-02-28 Thread Vishal
We've had the IDE discussions before..many times on many mailing lists.
Would love to hear from Amit about NetBeans Python support.

I personally mostly work on Windows...so PyScripter
http://code.google.com/p/pyscripter/ is the choice for me (its a complete
IDE only 6MBs heavy). On linux, it has to be Emacs :))

Vishal

2009/2/27 Venkatraman S venka...@gmail.com

 On a related note : http://jjinux.blogspot.com/search?q=netbeans

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[BangPypers] PyCon India IRC Discussion

2009-02-28 Thread Ramakrishna Reddy
We need to have an IRC discussion on the #Bangpypers on IRC ,
Server :: irc.freenode.org
I would request all the stake holders to participate

Agenda ::
o Programme Committee
o Date

Which day is convenient  for al the folks.
o Tuesday , 3rd march 4:30 PM
o Tuesday, 3rd March,  9:00 PM

or someother day / time let me know. I always do hangout on the
channel, stop by to say print hello world


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Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India IRC Discussion

2009-02-28 Thread Baiju M
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Ramakrishna Reddy ramkr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Which day is convenient  for al the folks.
 o Tuesday , 3rd march 4:30 PM
 o Tuesday, 3rd March,  9:00 PM

 Either choice is good.

9.00 pm is fine for me.

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Re: [BangPypers] Reply from David Goodger about PyCon

2009-02-28 Thread Baiju M
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Ramakrishna Reddy ramkr...@gmail.com wrote:
 o Call for Papers. ( how do we peer review the talks, tutorials ,
 unlike Fsck.in, lets have a open review system of the talks)

We required one web app like the one used for PyCon.  Any idea whether
we can use
the same software and customize it ?  Or is there any other free
software for co-ordinating
 an entire conference ?

Regards,
Baiju M
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Re: [BangPypers] Reply from David Goodger about PyCon

2009-02-28 Thread Pradeep Gowda
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote:
 We required one web app like the one used for PyCon.  Any idea whether
 we can use
 the same software and customize it ?  Or is there any other free
 software for co-ordinating
  an entire conference ?

https://pycon.coderanger.net/
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Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India Proposal

2009-02-28 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Saturday 28 February 2009 12:07:46 VidA wrote:
 1. Please clarify/define dedicated conference. (As in, is the pyconf
 open to people like me who dont code for a living and yet grok
 technical concepts?)

dedicated to python - no other languages
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Re: [BangPypers] Reply from David Goodger about PyCon

2009-02-28 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sunday 01 March 2009 09:33:31 Baiju M wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Ramakrishna Reddy ramkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  o Call for Papers. ( how do we peer review the talks, tutorials ,
  unlike Fsck.in, lets have a open review system of the talks)

 We required one web app like the one used for PyCon.  Any idea whether
 we can use
 the same software and customize it ?  Or is there any other free
 software for co-ordinating
  an entire conference ?

we have the fossconf software written in django - it has all the features 
needed for a conference including rating of papers, hall allotment, scheduling 
etc etc. The only thing to be added is payment receipt module and of course, 
to upgrade to django 1.x. The team that built it is absconding, but anyone who 
wishes to work on it (some hard coded stuff needs to be removed) may contact 
me. The code is here:

http://registration.fossconf.in/code/
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Re: [BangPypers] Reply from David Goodger about PyCon

2009-02-28 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Sunday 01 March 2009 11:58:12 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 etc etc. The only thing to be added is payment receipt module and of
 course, to upgrade to django 1.x. The team that built it is absconding,

clarification: I am the main developer and am still around - the rest of the 
team has vanished ...
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Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India IRC Discussion

2009-02-28 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
I think apart from the IRC meeting, we should also have a proper face
to face thing. It's a little premature perhaps given how recent the
last BangPypers meeting was but I think it'd be useful. We can Skype
in the people who are from outside the city.



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[BangPypers] Questions regarding Image cropping

2009-02-28 Thread Arunabha Adhikari
Dear friends,

I am a beginner in Python programming. I am not a computer professional I am
a physicist. I was trying to write a code in python for my own research
which involves a little image processing. All I need to do is to display an
image and then select a region of interest using my mouse and finally crop
out the selected region. I can do this in Matlab using the ginput()
function. I tried using PIL. But I find that after I issue the command
Image.show(), the image is displayed but then the program halts there unless
I exit from the image window. Is there any way to implement what I was
planning. Do I need to download any other module? Please advise.

Arunabha Adhikari

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