[BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
Hi all, I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at ThoughtWorks, Diamond District. I plan to present a prototype of a project I have been working on for the last few weeks which uses OpenCalais and NLP to search RSS feeds for very specfic information. The presentation will cover the basics of OpenCalais in the beginning and then present a demo of my project (not named yet), and some of the inner workings. I suggest meeting at 3.00-5.00 pm at ThoughtWorks. If we get enough thumbs up, we could plan for one more session... Thanks, -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Running multiple versions of python on Fedora
I downloaded the source tarball for Python 3.1 from python.org and built it. Works fine now. However, I don't know what could be the implications when I start downloading and installing modules for the other version of Python ( version 2.6 ) that came with the Linux distribution. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit ard...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Has anyone here tried installing multiple versions of python ( say 2.6 and 3.0 ) onto a Fedora system ( specifically fedora 11 )? -Arvind ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Running multiple versions of python on Fedora
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 12:33:46 pm Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: they will go into site-packages of the 2.6 version - if you install properly. That will be dist-packages from 2.6 upwards. my fedora 11 2.6 has site-packages, no dist-packages -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Pradip Caulagi caul...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at ThoughtWorks, Diamond District. I plan to present a prototype of a project I have been working on for the last few weeks which uses OpenCalais and NLP to search RSS feeds for very specfic information. The presentation will cover the basics of OpenCalais in the beginning and then present a demo of my project (not named yet), and some of the inner workings. I suggest meeting at 3.00-5.00 pm at ThoughtWorks. +1 Please share the slide for people who is not able to attend the meet. -- ** JAGANADH G http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: [..] It is a bit too early to decide on the meeting itself. There have been only a couple of thumbs-up so far. This week-end being Diwali and all, I need a few more head count before I decide on it. We can have it if around 7-8 people confirm. Otherwise I will rather wait for the next week-end than show it to an audience of 2 or 3 people. [..] Why not do that then? People would have more time to get ready (this is quite short notice) and I'd expect a larger audience. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: [..] It is a bit too early to decide on the meeting itself. There have been only a couple of thumbs-up so far. This week-end being Diwali and all, I need a few more head count before I decide on it. We can have it if around 7-8 people confirm. Otherwise I will rather wait for the next week-end than show it to an audience of 2 or 3 people. [..] Why not do that then? People would have more time to get ready (this is quite short notice) and I'd expect a larger audience. We have had meetings at even shorter notices in the past, i.e on Friday for a Sat meeting and it has happened. I will wait till tomorrow afternoon before deciding on this. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
+1 Regards, Srinivasachari. Sent from Bangalore, KA, India 2009/10/15 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in them? On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 2:06:01 pm Ramdas S wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: [..] It is a bit too early to decide on the meeting itself. There have been only a couple of thumbs-up so far. This week-end being Diwali and all, I need a few more head count before I decide on it. We can have it if around 7-8 people confirm. Otherwise I will rather wait for the next week-end than show it to an audience of 2 or 3 people. [..] Why not do that then? People would have more time to get ready (this is quite short notice) and I'd expect a larger audience. We have had meetings at even shorter notices in the past, i.e on Friday for a Sat meeting and it has happened. I will wait till tomorrow afternoon before deciding on this. +1 -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
+1 Vishal Sapre On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Srinivasachari srinivasachari2...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Regards, Srinivasachari. Sent from Bangalore, KA, India 2009/10/15 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in them? On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 2:06:01 pm Ramdas S wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: [..] It is a bit too early to decide on the meeting itself. There have been only a couple of thumbs-up so far. This week-end being Diwali and all, I need a few more head count before I decide on it. We can have it if around 7-8 people confirm. Otherwise I will rather wait for the next week-end than show it to an audience of 2 or 3 people. [..] Why not do that then? People would have more time to get ready (this is quite short notice) and I'd expect a larger audience. We have had meetings at even shorter notices in the past, i.e on Friday for a Sat meeting and it has happened. I will wait till tomorrow afternoon before deciding on this. +1 -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Thanks and best regards, Vishal Sapre --- So say...Day by day, in every way, I am getting better, better and better !!! A Strong and Positive attitude creates more miracles than anything else. Because...Life is 10% how you make it, and 90% how you take it Diamond is another piece of coal that did well under pressure” Happiness keeps u Sweet, Trials keep u Strong, Sorrow keeps u Human, Failure Keeps u Humble, Success keeps u Glowing, But only God Keeps u Going.Keep Going. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame. I know that this is not related to python, but i can't resist discussing this. Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? ,saying that it's very urgent and on top of that they can't even able to put their problem across correctly.In some cases they ask you to send it to their mail ID's. Having tried the problem and asking for help is OK.but this is something like disgusting. I have been following Reddit and News groups and forums and no matter where ever i go these type of people are there(99% of them are indians).They don't even have the patience to do googling..is copying seeped into our blood?? I have worked at infosys , i have had a chance to work with westerns,they never ever copy their home work(In training ,we used to do assignments and submit at the EOD).They do submit what they did , if they can't do it,they ask permission to submit later.But we (Indians) used to copy.Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: [..] Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? [..] Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. To quote from your own post: Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame. I know that this is not related to python, but i can't resist discussing this. Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? ,saying that it's very urgent and on top of that they can't even able to put their problem across correctly.In some cases they ask you to send it to their mail ID's. Having tried the problem and asking for help is OK.but this is something like disgusting. I have been following Reddit and News groups and forums and no matter where ever i go these type of people are there(99% of them are indians).They don't even have the patience to do googling..is copying seeped into our blood?? I have worked at infosys , i have had a chance to work with westerns,they never ever copy their home work(In training ,we used to do assignments and submit at the EOD).They do submit what they did , if they can't do it,they ask permission to submit later.But we (Indians) used to copy.Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Query regarding Weekend Meeting
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sharath Sama shara...@tarangtech.comwrote: Hi, My name is Sharath Sama. I am working on python. I am new to this group.I have a query regarding meetings Who can attend meetings, What is the process to attend. Please guide me. Regards, Sharath Sama Anyone can attend the meeting! There's no process to attend, we are not that process driven Meetings happen at one of the places(usually offices of some company in Bangalore) and this weekend it's @ Thoughtworks (www.thoughtworks.co.in). In fact the first meet was graciously hosted by Anand Pillai at a restaurant in Barton center. Just to clarify, anyone can call for a meeting at anytime they choose at any place ( of course people turning up will depend on individual interest, and also the proximity to the place you choose, as well as the topic of interest). I believe (correct me if I'm wrong), as long as the topic is connected to Python the meeting will be deemed as a BangPypers meet. We have a group's official monthly meetings which was decided for the third weekend every month, during last month. One of the core ideas of this group is to have code jams and sprints which can even be done if two three of us want to at any place like a coffee house or someone's home. But you can use the group for discussions and also attract more coders for your hackathons. Do join this weekend and meet all of us Thanks Ramdas ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Re
May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. To quote from your own post: Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have I have attended Pycon and observed you people(noufal,senthil,ShyamShankar,AB,Kenneth) talking that's why i said. Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Why Indians copy
Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. That was a big story noufal.To tell in short, I couldn't understand what they are teaching(in training) me? they taught entire java in 5 days and expected to do programming by the end of it which i couldn't.OOPS was a big ghost to me back then. I have had no choice than to copy though i disgusted it and felt guilt of it.i mean this from my heart. i was caught and infy sent me out. Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? Most Indian programmers were never supposed to be programmers. They simply lack the cognitive skills required to be in the business. Yet they are the ones who work for large/medium/small software service companies. So when they face a problem, they have absolutely no clue as to where to look for solutions. They also have no idea about the various programming communities and their modus operandi. They just join some random group and ask for solutions (it's akin to asking for some software in some shareware group). The problem is also inside the organisations; people who ask their seniors questions are deemed to be fools, etc. I think there is no solution to this specific problem. It's more of a culture issue. Unless and until parents let their children do whatever they want and the society treats people from all professions equally, people will keep flocking into the most fashionable profession of that decade. Computer programming is on its way out... management is much more fashionable now; the only difference is that a programmer's work revolves around the Internet and the Internet never forgets :) Regards, BG -- Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
Googling or search in general is a skill. There is a lot of contextual knowledge that we use when composing a search query. One of the most important skills when entering a new discipline is learning the appropriate jargon and using it drive your queries. Search isn't generally a skill taught in schools. This is sad because it is probably ur-skill of the 21st century. But the only way to learn to search is to do a lot of it. I do find it more common in the East to find individuals in technical areas who haven't spent time running the thousands of queries it takes to build up the skill US number: +1 650-862-5992 Indian Number:+919945111824 Sent from Karnataka, India On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit ard...@gmail.comwrote: May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. To quote from your own post: Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame. I know that this is not related to python, but i can't resist discussing this. Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? ,saying that it's very urgent and on top of that they can't even able to put their problem across correctly.In some cases they ask you to send it to their mail ID's. Having tried the problem and asking for help is OK.but this is something like disgusting. I have been following Reddit and News groups and forums and no matter where ever i go these type of people are there(99% of them are indians).They don't even have the patience to do googling..is copying seeped into our blood?? I have worked at infosys , i have had a chance to work with westerns,they never ever copy their home work(In training ,we used to do assignments and submit at the EOD).They do submit what they did , if they can't do it,they ask permission to submit later.But we (Indians) used to copy.Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
I frequently speak of the challenge culture poses in doing product development in India. But in some sense, culture is a great problem to have. Culture can change and fairly fast. There are also fantastic opportunities for entrepeneurs so build microcosms of effective problem solving culture in India. At the sametime , it is !...@ing hard US number: +1 650-862-5992 Indian Number:+919945111824 Sent from Karnataka, India On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Baishampayan Ghose b.gh...@gmail.comwrote: Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? Most Indian programmers were never supposed to be programmers. They simply lack the cognitive skills required to be in the business. Yet they are the ones who work for large/medium/small software service companies. So when they face a problem, they have absolutely no clue as to where to look for solutions. They also have no idea about the various programming communities and their modus operandi. They just join some random group and ask for solutions (it's akin to asking for some software in some shareware group). The problem is also inside the organisations; people who ask their seniors questions are deemed to be fools, etc. I think there is no solution to this specific problem. It's more of a culture issue. Unless and until parents let their children do whatever they want and the society treats people from all professions equally, people will keep flocking into the most fashionable profession of that decade. Computer programming is on its way out... management is much more fashionable now; the only difference is that a programmer's work revolves around the Internet and the Internet never forgets :) Regards, BG -- Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Suggest me a book
Just completed reading the book, The Coders At Work,It's just an excellent book and It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers. Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind? Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC Forums like say, http://stackoverflow.com/ ? Real programmers like say, Alex Martelli ? http://stackoverflow.com/users/95810/alex-martelli Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
But StackOverflow http://stackoverflow.com/ is changing all that. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Just completed reading the book, The Coders At Work,It's just an excellent book and It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers. Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind? http://www.diveintopython.org/ http://www.diveintopython3.org/ HTH :) Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
Beautiful Code Beautiful Architecture Masterminds of Programming: Conversations with the Creators of Major Programming Languages Hackers and Painters: Big Ideas from the Computer Age Joel on Software (the book) The Best Software Writing I: Selected and Introduced by Joel Spolsky -- Vinayak On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Just completed reading the book, The Coders At Work,It's just an excellent book and It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers. Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind? Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 5:18:07 pm Vinayak Hegde wrote: Beautiful Code Beautiful Architecture Masterminds of Programming: Conversations with the Creators of Major Programming Languages Hackers and Painters: Big Ideas from the Computer Age Joel on Software (the book) The Best Software Writing I: Selected and Introduced by Joel Spolsky just shows what an ass I am - never heard of any of these books. The only classic I have read is the one by Varden. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
I'm enjoying Real World Haskell and Beautiful Data enormously. US number: +1 650-862-5992 Indian Number:+919945111824 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful Code Beautiful Architecture Masterminds of Programming: Conversations with the Creators of Major Programming Languages Hackers and Painters: Big Ideas from the Computer Age Joel on Software (the book) The Best Software Writing I: Selected and Introduced by Joel Spolsky -- Vinayak On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Just completed reading the book, The Coders At Work,It's just an excellent book and It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers. Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind? Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC There are several good forums such as artima, stackoverflow and javalobby. The process of finding answers is what is important and not the medium. I think you would be taken more seriously if you don't spew random garbage like this. -- Vinayak ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Zaki Manian z...@manian.org wrote: I'm enjoying Real World Haskell and Beautiful Data enormously. Programming Pearls - Jon Bentley -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC There are several good forums such as artima, stackoverflow and javalobby. The process of finding answers is what is important and not the medium. Ubuntuforums has in the past been useful to me. I usually get to the articles via. a google search rather than directly visiting the forums though. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/scheme/TheAdventuresofaPythonistainSchemeland.pdf) , Little Schemer and seasoned schemer for those who want to learn functional languages. -- Vinayak On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Zaki Manian z...@manian.org wrote: I'm enjoying Real World Haskell and Beautiful Data enormously. US number: +1 650-862-5992 Indian Number:+919945111824 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful Code Beautiful Architecture Masterminds of Programming: Conversations with the Creators of Major Programming Languages Hackers and Painters: Big Ideas from the Computer Age Joel on Software (the book) The Best Software Writing I: Selected and Introduced by Joel Spolsky -- Vinayak On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Just completed reading the book, The Coders At Work,It's just an excellent book and It's great to see behind the eye balls of programmers. Can any one suggest me some other books of such kind? Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
Hi, I have gone through Code Complete by Steve McConnell under same category.This also good one. read it. Reagrds, Sharath Sama - Original Message - From: bangpypers-requ...@python.org To: bangpypers@python.org Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: BangPypers Digest, Vol 26, Issue 55 Send BangPypers mailing list submissions to bangpypers@python.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to bangpypers-requ...@python.org You can reach the person managing the list at bangpypers-ow...@python.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of BangPypers digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Why do indians copy? (Zaki Manian) 2. Re: Why do indians copy? (Kenneth Gonsalves) 3. Re: Why do indians copy? (Zaki Manian) 4. Suggest me a book (Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:28:03 +0530 From: Zaki Manian z...@manian.org To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India bangpypers@python.org Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy? Message-ID: ab74d90d0910150358i33ee3197le6e9717f6caf3...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Googling or search in general is a skill. There is a lot of contextual knowledge that we use when composing a search query. One of the most important skills when entering a new discipline is learning the appropriate jargon and using it drive your queries. Search isn't generally a skill taught in schools. This is sad because it is probably ur-skill of the 21st century. But the only way to learn to search is to do a lot of it. I do find it more common in the East to find individuals in technical areas who haven't spent time running the thousands of queries it takes to build up the skill US number: +1 650-862-5992 Indian Number:+919945111824 Sent from Karnataka, India On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit ard...@gmail.comwrote: May be we Indians always think the other person to be better or smarter. To quote from your own post: Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame. I know that this is not related to python, but i can't resist discussing this. Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? ,saying that it's very urgent and on top of that they can't even able to put their problem across correctly.In some cases they ask you to send it to their mail ID's. Having tried the problem and asking for help is OK.but this is something like disgusting. I have been following Reddit and News groups and forums and no matter where ever i go these type of people are there(99% of them are indians).They don't even have the patience to do googling..is copying seeped into our blood?? I have worked at infosys , i have had a chance to work with westerns,they never ever copy their home work(In training ,we used to do assignments and submit at the EOD).They do submit what they did , if they can't do it,they ask permission to submit later.But we (Indians) used to copy.Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/attachments/20091015/3df25969/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:43:30 +0530 From: Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India bangpypers@python.org Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy? Message-ID: 200910151643.30879.law...@au-kbc.org Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-15 On Thursday 15 Oct 2009 3:52:39 pm Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ -- Message: 3
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/scheme/TheAdventuresofaPythonistainSchemeland.pdf) , Little Schemer and seasoned schemer for those who want to learn functional languages. Is the adventures of a Pythonista... the same as was published a while ago as a series of blog entries? -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/scheme/TheAdventuresofaPythonistainSchemeland.pdf) , Little Schemer and seasoned schemer for those who want to learn functional languages. Is the adventures of a Pythonista... the same as was published a while ago as a series of blog entries? Yes. It has the content of 30 something blog entries. A PDF is easier to read than individual pages so I linked to it. I think there are more blog enrteies coming so the pdf will be updated as well. -- Vinayak ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Query regarding Weekend Meeting
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sharath Sama shara...@tarangtech.com wrote: Hi, My name is Sharath Sama. I am working on python. I am new to this group.I have a query regarding meetings Who can attend meetings, What is the process to attend. Please guide me. Regards, Sharath Sama Anyone can attend a meeting. I think there is one scheduled this weekend. When starting a new thread don't do reply all to the list or digest but start a fresh email thread in your client. That will make it easier for people to answer you rather than getting flamed. -- Vinayak ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah those two are good too. Other than that I would suggest Adventures of a Pythonista in Schemeland (http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~micheles/scheme/TheAdventuresofaPythonistainSchemeland.pdf) , Little Schemer and seasoned schemer for those who want to learn functional languages. Is the adventures of a Pythonista... the same as was published a while ago as a series of blog entries? Looks like it. Thanks for the link Vinayak, the blog entries had got bookmarked and lost in del.icio.us long ago. Have you read both LS and SS? Where did you get them? I borrowed LS from my brother some time back, but have been stuck at the place they introduce the Y combinator. How is SS? Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
Most important reason being people joining CS because of fashion and not because they like it. In my entire class of 68, only 4 joined CS because they liked it. The rest simply because they didn't want to 'disobey parents'. The 'don't question it' culture hurts. 20 people got 90+ in OOP in my class. None of them know the difference between a class and an object. Not their fault - I'm not sure the faculty themselves know it. Data Structures in C - 15 people got 90+. Maybe 5 of them know what a pointer is. I am sure the staff doesn't. Maybe my sampling is biased, but I don't see 99% of my classmates becoming programmers. Yet they will end up at some services company (only reappy knows why) and go on to produce those spectacular posts. Happens all the time here - nobody here can write code, and finding out ingenious ways to cheat is considered great. Maybe I should post a longer rant on my blog. How was this like before the CS Boom? I'm sure some of you would have memories... On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Baishampayan Ghose b.gh...@gmail.comwrote: I brought up the same topic a few months ago I think. Basically if you go to the Ruby forums no real programmer goes to forums - they use mailing lists and IRC Forums like say, http://stackoverflow.com/ ? havent come across that - but I some how do not like forums - something dozey about them Stackoverflow is not really a forum, it's more like a community QA website. And yes, StackOverflow has more people who work on Windows technologies. Regards, BG -- Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvisense.net ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
This is getting really offtopic. I think everyone here has joined this mailing list for learning Python and helping others do so. No offense to anyone but can we terminate the discussion here. Thanks Vinayak On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, shameek ghosh shamee...@gmail.com wrote: Coming back to the main questions.[:)] 1. Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? [SNIP] ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, shameek ghosh shamee...@gmail.com wrote: ... [:)] ... [:P]... ... [:)] ... [:)] Orkut overdose? :) Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: This is getting really offtopic. I think everyone here has joined this mailing list for learning Python and helping others do so. No offense to anyone but can we terminate the discussion here. Off topic, and the generalizations are a lil offensive. But then free speech and all. :)\\ Moderator, Kindly close this thread Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why Indians copy
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy srinivas_thatipar...@akebonosoft.com wrote: Why? That's probably the answer you're looking for. That was a big story noufal.To tell in short, I couldn't understand what they are teaching(in training) me? they taught entire java in 5 days and expected to do programming by the end of it which i couldn't.OOPS was a big ghost to me back then. I have had no choice than to copy though i disgusted it and felt guilt of it.i mean this from my heart. i was caught and infy sent me out. ROTFL Regards Rajeev J Sebastian ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Introducing the Y Combinator(Not the company)
AKA The Y Combinator in python. This is in response to Roshan Mathews' post that he got stuck with the Y Combinator. Aha a challenge, I shall undertake this as a test of my communication skillz. :-) The question is how do we implement a recursive function in a language in which names can only be bound using a lambda expression eg. Python without assignment operators and def. We can solve this problem fairly easily, we pass the function itself as a parameter. So now any recursive call must include the function as a parameter too. fact = lambda _fact, x: 1 if x == 1 else x * _fact(_fact, x-1) print fact(fact, 5) Or course lambda expressions in python are famously hard to read. So we'll allow `def` with some restrictions. The code block of a function definition cannot contain a call to the function itself. This is because the function name isn't bound at the time the function itself is defined. We can rewrite the lambda code as def fact(_fact, x): if x == 1: return 1 else: return x*_fact(_fact, x-1) print fact(fact, 5) There, thats a lot more readable. Having to type `_fact(_fact, x-1)` is quite irritating especially if the recursive call is made in more than one place. So we can extract it into a function `f`. def fact(_fact, x): def f(x): return _fact(_fact, x) if x == 1: return 1 else: return x * f(x-1) print fact(fact, 5) But we still need to define `f` at the top of all our functions. It makes sense to generalize this pattern so that `f` itself can be passed as a parameter to fact. This is where the y combinator comes in. Ok, now things start to get a bit weird so hang in there. Here's a definition of y combinator using lambdas, it's not particularly readable so we'll just ignore it. def y(f): return ((lambda g: lambda a: f(g(g), a)) (lambda g: lambda a: f(g(g), a))) Let's implement the y combinator using `def` instead. def y(f): def _y(g): def _f(a): return f(g(g), a) return _f return _y(_y) `_f` accepts parameter `a` and then calls `f` with the parameters `g(g)` and `a`. `_y(_y)` bootstraps the whole operation by passing `_y` to itself to be bound to `g`. `g` is now `_y`, so a call to `g` will return `_f`. So now we can implement fact to use the y combinator. def fact(f, x): if x == 1: return 1 else: return x * f(x-1) fact = y(fact) print fact(5) ps. I wrote a lisp interpreter using lambda and the bootstrapping concept some time ago. It's a bit of a brain damaged ugly sister of the the y combinator. http://kuruvila.net/2008/02/29/a-one-line-lisp-interpreter/ -- I am but a man. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame. I know that this is not related to python, but i can't resist discussing this. Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? ,saying that it's very urgent and on top of that they can't even able to put their problem across correctly.In some cases they ask you to send it to their mail ID's. Having tried the problem and asking for help is OK.but this is something like disgusting. I have been following Reddit and News groups and forums and no matter where ever i go these type of people are there(99% of them are indians).They don't even have the patience to do googling..is copying seeped into our blood?? I have worked at infosys , i have had a chance to work with westerns,they never ever copy their home work(In training ,we used to do assignments and submit at the EOD).They do submit what they did , if they can't do it,they ask permission to submit later.But we (Indians) used to copy.Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy sent out 8.1K bytes to say: Hi list, This is my first post to the list though I have been following this list since 7 or 8 months. I have been programming for a 1.5 years or so.Comparatively i have very less exposure and exp as you people have and please excuse me if u think this is a troll or flame. I know that this is not related to python, but i can't resist discussing this. Why do indian programmers ask for code in Usenet (particularly Google groups) ? ,saying that it's very urgent and on top of that they can't even able to put their problem across correctly.In some cases they ask you to send it to their mail ID's. Having tried the problem and asking for help is OK.but this is something like disgusting. I have been following Reddit and News groups and forums and no matter where ever i go these type of people are there(99% of them are indians).They don't even have the patience to do googling..is copying seeped into our blood?? I have worked at infosys , i have had a chance to work with westerns,they never ever copy their home work(In training ,we used to do assignments and submit at the EOD).They do submit what they did , if they can't do it,they ask permission to submit later.But we (Indians) used to copy.Yeah,i did copy and learnt lessons. :) Regards, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy. -- I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. - Confucius. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers Sorry, I just couldn't resist :P -- Tejas Dinkar http://gja.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 AM, srid sridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: But Ghose raises an important point about it also being a cultural issue. Heh, wish there was a well-researched Wikipedia article on this topic! There is a hypothesis presented in Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliers, on cultural factors causing airline accidents. But then others[1] disagree, as with most social arguments it's hard to come to any conclusion. Makes interesting reading all the same. :) Roshan Mathews [1] http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2008/12/05/askthepilot301/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:22:25 +0530, srid sridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if all this can be traced back to India's education system: Modern education in India is often criticized for being based on rote learning rather than problem solving. BusinessWeek denigrates the Indian curriculum saying it revolves around rote learning.[67] and ExpressIndia suggests that students are focused on cramming.[68] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_india#Issues But Ghose raises an important point about it also being a cultural issue. Heh, wish there was a well-researched Wikipedia article on this topic! Srid, I'm not Indian - but... Every other race/nation copies.. Western civilisation is built on inventing and copying... Europe invented the printing press - what for? mass copying of ideas. You can't get a more blatent copy machine than that. Western civilisation could provide india with toilet paper for every citizen in india simply from how much we photo-copy each year. If you have any issue with Indian behaviour, it shouldn't be about duplication, just recognition. Outside India, everybody knows Buddha, Gandhi, even Shah Rukh Khan. Ok - answer this important question (I am Australian): Which country has the Indian cricket team copied as a base for it's spin bowling skills? I bet you can't answer... Because they didn't copy anybody.. they worked it out themselves... David ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
On Friday 16 Oct 2009 8:31:11 am Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: is it only me or is ramdas frequently sending mails without any matter in them? I think you didn't see the +1 at the end of the email. I saw one with 4'' characters before it -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: failing - and if you do lose respect you hang yourself. In fact I once made a remark about RMS, and was told 'at least respect him as an elder'. Why should I? He is younger than me ;-) Hahaha. :-D *must avoid antediluvian joke ... must* Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Vishal vsapr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Thanks. Since this counts to around 6 people, let us have the meeting. Hopefully more people will join in on the day. I will send another email to confirm this. Vishal Sapre On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Srinivasachari srinivasachari2...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Regards, Srinivasachari. Sent from Bangalore, KA, India Thanks --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Introducing the Y Combinator(Not the company)
Sidharth Kuruvila wrote: AKA The Y Combinator in python. This is in response to Roshan Mathews' post that he got stuck with the Y Combinator. Aha a challenge, I shall undertake this as a test of my communication skillz. :-) The Y combinator is quite interesting. I blogged about this a little while back - http://siddhi.blogspot.com/2007/08/y-combinator-in-python.html -- Siddharta Govindaraj ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
On 10/16/09, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Vishal vsapr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Thanks. Since this counts to around 6 people, let us have the meeting. Hopefully more people will join in on the day. I will send another email to confirm this. We can meet at TW this Sunday, no problem. -- Sriram ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
On 10/16/09, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.com wrote: We can meet at TW this Sunday, no problem. One other thing that we'd discussed the last weekend was how those who are Python savvy can be a part of the Belenix developer community. I'd like to showcase some of Belenix - especially the ZFS file system, and we could all discuss some of the tools that are needed for such a platform (like storage management software, network administration tools, etc). -- Sriram ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote: On 10/16/09, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.com wrote: We can meet at TW this Sunday, no problem. One other thing that we'd discussed the last weekend was how those who are Python savvy can be a part of the Belenix developer community. I'd like to showcase some of Belenix - especially the ZFS file system, and we could all discuss some of the tools that are needed for such a platform (like storage management software, network administration tools, etc). Great, looking forward to this, especially on Python tools to inspect/manage ZFS, if any. Sriram, If it's not an issue can you also bring some latest Belenix CDs. It'll save some of us bandwidth -- Sriram ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
+1 from me. On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am proposing a week-end meeting on Sunday at ThoughtWorks, Diamond District. I plan to present a prototype of a project I have been working on for the last few weeks which uses OpenCalais and NLP to search RSS feeds for very specfic information. The presentation will cover the basics of OpenCalais in the beginning and then present a demo of my project (not named yet), and some of the inner workings. I suggest meeting at 3.00-5.00 pm at ThoughtWorks. If we get enough thumbs up, we could plan for one more session... Thanks, -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
How come no one mentioned ESR's CatB? I loved it. - The Cathedral and the Bazzar by Eric S Raymond -- Anurag Priyam 2nd Year,Mechanical Engineering, IIT Kharagpur. +91-9775550642 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
Zaki Manian wrote: Where do people buy programming books in Bangalore? I've got an International Kindle coming and I have an O'reilly Safari account so those are my main work around. You could consider Crossword near M.G.Road or Landmark at Kormangla Forum mall as a repo of all kinds of books. Also, there is Ganguram on M.G.Road. Compared to the first two, you might get discounts here as well. HTH, Amit US number: +1 650-862-5992 Indian Number:+919945111824 Sent from Karnataka, India On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Anurag Priyam anurag08pri...@gmail.comwrote: How come no one mentioned ESR's CatB? I loved it. - The Cathedral and the Bazzar by Eric S Raymond -- Anurag Priyam 2nd Year,Mechanical Engineering, IIT Kharagpur. +91-9775550642 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Journal: http://amitksaha.wordpress.com µ-blog: http://twitter.com/amitsaha IRC: cornucopic on #scheme, #lisp, #math, #linux ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Video streaming and video recording of the meet
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote: Folks: Let's assume that we have good bandwidth to stream video. Let me know what I need to set up here, and I'll see if I can have it ready by Sunday. We can also test all this before the meet Is Baiju around this weekend. I doubt ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:36:35 +0530 Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:22 AM, srid sridhar.ra...@gmail.com wrote: But Ghose raises an important point about it also being a cultural issue. Heh, wish there was a well-researched Wikipedia article on this topic! There is a hypothesis presented in Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliers, on cultural factors causing airline accidents. But then others[1] disagree, as with most social arguments it's hard to come to any conclusion. [...] Interesting that you should bring that up. I read Outliers a few months ago, and while it made some interesting points, I was frankly not very impressed by it, as also another best-selling book with a somewhat similar outlook, Freakonmics. I think that Gladwell jumps to conclusions way too readily. In this particular incident, without any more data than in the book, I felt that the blame for the crash that Gladwell lays at the feet of cultural factors affecting the Avianca crew, could have equally well been pointed the other way: At the famously rude New York ATC. The NTSB report cited in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avianca_Flight_52 is more even-handed. One of the really scary possibilities is that the crash was because of a linguistic misunderstanding. Regards, Gora ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Suggest me a book
On Friday 16 Oct 2009 11:16:05 am Amit Saha wrote: Zaki Manian wrote: Where do people buy programming books in Bangalore? I've got an International Kindle coming and I have an O'reilly Safari account so those are my main work around. You could consider Crossword near M.G.Road or Landmark at Kormangla Forum mall as a repo of all kinds of books. Also, there is Ganguram on M.G.Road. Compared to the first two, you might get discounts here as well. I wonder if that other shop on Museum road is still there - with all the books piled on top of each other. If it is, go to Gangarams, choose your book, and then go to that shop, ask the owner for the book and get a discount. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
