Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Venkatraman S
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.comwrote:

 [1].

 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/personal-tech/computing/Women-programmers-learn-to-schmooze/articleshow/22877116.cms



Does anyone know Chinmayi SK from RHOK. It looks like she is trying to do
something similar to what I tried 4-5 years back with mapatree.org(the
domain no longer is owned by me; but the app can be accessed here
http://mapatree.appspot.com/ http://mapatree.appspot.com/tech/). I gave
up on this side project of mine after running it with for a year. Can pass
on some of what I learnt to her(for eg. to use OSM than GMaps etc) and also
the data dump from mapatree.


 I wholeheartedly thank Anand Chitipothu ( and the other volunteers) for
 making Pycon India 2013 a women inclusive event.


The term 'women inclusive event' just sounds weird to me.

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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 Pyladies Bangalore was recently featured in Times of India dated, 22nd sept
 and later on 23 sept as well. [1]. I am not able to find the link for the
 23rd edition.

Is it this? 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/careers/job-trends/Lean-in-circles-for-women-coders/articleshow/22915047.cms
Seems like a rehash of the earlier article with a new title.
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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
Hey Svaksha,

Thanks for the link. Yes, thats the one that I was looking for. Thanks once
again.

All, please see Anand stating that there were 500 people. I am not sure if
those 500 number was women, or the overall participation.

@Venkatraman,

One word can evoke different emotions in different people. I will be
interested in knowing your views. Can you please be more clear on why you
find it weird?


Thanks and regards,
Annapoornima



On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:39 PM, svaksha ॥ स्वक्ष svak...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Dear All,
 
  Pyladies Bangalore was recently featured in Times of India dated, 22nd
 sept
  and later on 23 sept as well. [1]. I am not able to find the link for the
  23rd edition.

 Is it this?
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/careers/job-trends/Lean-in-circles-for-women-coders/articleshow/22915047.cms
 Seems like a rehash of the earlier article with a new title.
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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.com writes:


[...]

 [1].
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/personal-tech/computing/Women-programmers-learn-to-schmooze/articleshow/22877116.cms

[...]

This article, at least some of the Python parts of it, are not
accurate. Bangpypers didn't host PyCon India. The PSSI did in Bangalore
and many of the volunteers were out of station. Also, that quote doesn't
sound authentic but like a generic feel good statement. 




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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Anand Chitipothu
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@nibrahim.net.inwrote:

 Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.com writes:


 [...]

  [1].
 
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/personal-tech/computing/Women-programmers-learn-to-schmooze/articleshow/22877116.cms

 [...]

 This article, at least some of the Python parts of it, are not
 accurate. Bangpypers didn't host PyCon India. The PSSI did in Bangalore
 and many of the volunteers were out of station. Also, that quote doesn't
 sound authentic but like a generic feel good statement.


The response from women coders was overwhelming, said Anand Chitipothu

All I said was it looked like there were more women participants this year
compared previous years. Surprised to see what came out.

Anand
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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com writes:


[...]

 The response from women coders was overwhelming, said Anand
 Chitipothu

 All I said was it looked like there were more women participants this
 year compared previous years. Surprised to see what came out.

I'm annoyed but not surprised. 

[...]

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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Venkatraman S
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.comwrote:


 @Venkatraman,

 One word can evoke different emotions in different people.


Agreed.


 I will be
 interested in knowing your views. Can you please be more clear on why you
 find it weird?



Bluntly put, it sounds very condescending and portrays a picture that Pycon
is a
male dominated society where women were not allowed in earlier.
A better choice of words would have been nice(r).

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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Anand Chitipothu
 I thank Anand Chitipothu for making Pycon India 2013 women inclusive. Since
 he has already made a comment that there was enough participation from
 women, there are a few facts that I want get them straight.


Not sure what you mean by women inclusive here. PyCon India was never
women exclusive, we always had women participants and speakers.

Anand
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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
@ Anand, please talk in numbers and not in words. How many women members
were present, etc?

@Venkat, I have been nice, cordial, and don't need a better choice of
words. I dont want argue on this anymore. I would like to continue the
original thread.

@Noufal, I am on phone with Times of India office. Yes, I want actual women
participating and not just feel good about it. Yes, it is very annoying
when the reports are diluted/distorted.




On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.comwrote:

  I thank Anand Chitipothu for making Pycon India 2013 women inclusive.
 Since
  he has already made a comment that there was enough participation from
  women, there are a few facts that I want get them straight.
 

 Not sure what you mean by women inclusive here. PyCon India was never
 women exclusive, we always had women participants and speakers.

 Anand
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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread T S KAMATH
there it start.. flaming each other ... 

Guys  Girls, Push back relax and Enjoy the show.. GM-II production on 
bangpypers

Regards
Srikanth


On 23-Sep-2013, at 1:21 PM, Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.com wrote:

@ Anand, please talk in numbers and not in words. How many women members
were present, etc?

@Venkat, I have been nice, cordial, and don't need a better choice of
words. I dont want argue on this anymore. I would like to continue the
original thread.

@Noufal, I am on phone with Times of India office. Yes, I want actual women
participating and not just feel good about it. Yes, it is very annoying
when the reports are diluted/distorted.




On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.comwrote:

 I thank Anand Chitipothu for making Pycon India 2013 women inclusive.
 Since
 he has already made a comment that there was enough participation from
 women, there are a few facts that I want get them straight.
 
 
 Not sure what you mean by women inclusive here. PyCon India was never
 women exclusive, we always had women participants and speakers.
 
 Anand
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[BangPypers] RHOK, maptree and like ..

2013-09-23 Thread Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे
(Changing the subject so as not to get caught in cross fire ..)


Does anyone know Chinmayi SK from RHOK.


In addition I would like more information about the app itself ?
The article says Android app .. encourages users to take picture of
tree etc.

Couple years ago - I was part of team that tried to build a similar app
(since then I have moved on) I would be interested to try the app.
If open source, like to view (and contribute to) the code.

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Re: [BangPypers] RHOK, maptree and like .

2013-09-23 Thread Rushabh Mehta
Hi,

We have just pushed a similar app we are building for Pune

http://treemapper.in

https://github.com/webnotes/treemapper

Would be happy to collaborate.

- Rushabh


W: https://erpnext.com
T: @rushabh_mehta

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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Dhananjay Nene
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Annapoornima Koppad
a.kop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 Pyladies Bangalore was recently featured in Times of India dated, 22nd sept
 and later on 23 sept as well. [1]. I am not able to find the link for the
 23rd edition.

 I thank Anand Chitipothu for making Pycon India 2013 women inclusive. Since
 he has already made a comment that there was enough participation from
 women, there are a few facts that I want get them straight.

 Dear Mr. Anand Chitipothu, can you please provide the exact number of women
 participants in Pycon India 2013? How many women were key note speakers? I
 would like a list of their email ids and names if they were women. I need
 them because I want to increase the Pyladies visibility and also encourage
 ladies in other cities to start Pyladies chapter in their respective towns
 and cities.

 Also, Mr. Anand, can you please provide me an introduction to Shilpa
 Patankar the news reporter so that I can give her the status of Pyladies
 Bangalore, overview of goals, etc.

 [1].
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/personal-tech/computing/Women-programmers-learn-to-schmooze/articleshow/22877116.cms

 I wholeheartedly thank Anand Chitipothu ( and the other volunteers) for
 making Pycon India 2013 a women inclusive event.


A gentle reminder there are three mailing lists with their respective
agendas as follows :

bangpypers : EMPHASIZEThis group is for discussions related to the
Python programming language/EMPHASIZE. We welcome all kinds of
discussions related to Python.
inpycon: This mailing list is for discussions regarding organizing
Pycon India. Anyone who is interested to take an active role in
EMPHASIZEdiscussing and/or organizing PyCon India /EMPHASIZE is
welcome to join the list.
ipss: Discussions related to the Indian Python Software Society.
I believe there is another pyladies group which discusses associated
appropriate issues.

I am subscribed to this mailing list because I am interested in the
python programming language. Can someone please change the documented
objective of this mailing list to appropriately reflect the reality if
I my perception is stale or out of date.

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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread s|s
Learning thing or two about news flows, I would say its not diluted or
distorted, it falls into a template. Like some respectable occidental
reporter gets off on a port in Africa an announces I would like talk to a
women who has been raped and can speak English. News has already been
written and what does not fit that template is thrown away.


On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.comwrote:

 @ Anand, please talk in numbers and not in words. How many women members
 were present, etc?

 @Venkat, I have been nice, cordial, and don't need a better choice of
 words. I dont want argue on this anymore. I would like to continue the
 original thread.

 @Noufal, I am on phone with Times of India office. Yes, I want actual women
 participating and not just feel good about it. Yes, it is very annoying
 when the reports are diluted/distorted.




 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   I thank Anand Chitipothu for making Pycon India 2013 women inclusive.
  Since
   he has already made a comment that there was enough participation from
   women, there are a few facts that I want get them straight.
  
 
  Not sure what you mean by women inclusive here. PyCon India was never
  women exclusive, we always had women participants and speakers.
 
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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
Dear All,

I would like to provide an update. I had a word with Shilpa Patankar, the
reporter of the article and she agreed to correct the wrong data. Also, she
will be getting in touch with me directly or whoever is in my position to
get an update with regard to Pyladies Bangalore activities.
These were the points that I raised with her.

1. Representatives from the different organizations were asked to provide
comments. However, she had not taken my comments , neither made an attempt
to get in touch with me.
2. I was told that at the last minute, she had to hurry and hence could not
connect with me. However, a second version of the same article goes up
again on the second day. She had no comments for that.
3. I believe she spoke to Anand Chitipothu who has both my number and email
address. He could have done the kind deed of giving it to the reporter.

Finally, I am talking to some of the other people on the news report,
Geetha ma'am, who extended her support to me.

@S bar S, Show me a rapist who will advertise first before committing a
rape so that I/ law can hang him before he commits a rape. Its a pity that
a women has to learn a foreign language(English) to even stand up and speak
up for herself. I will leave you to live your words.

Morever, I was busy last night, sending this email thread to all the women
groups all over the word. The Ada initiative, The Anita Borg institute, The
systers group, the Pyladies international group, the ubuntu women, the
openstack group, Linuxchix, the pyladies organizers group, and the other
groups that I am part of are reading this email thread currently.

All others, I am pushing this thread to the Pyladies mailing list. I am
sorry that I have no other go other than raise it a place where everyone
will know about it.

Thanks and regards,
Annapoornima




On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:04 PM, s|s supr.e.etse...@gmail.com wrote:

 Learning thing or two about news flows, I would say its not diluted or
 distorted, it falls into a template. Like some respectable occidental
 reporter gets off on a port in Africa an announces I would like talk to a
 women who has been raped and can speak English. News has already been
 written and what does not fit that template is thrown away.


 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Annapoornima Koppad a.kop...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  @ Anand, please talk in numbers and not in words. How many women members
  were present, etc?
 
  @Venkat, I have been nice, cordial, and don't need a better choice of
  words. I dont want argue on this anymore. I would like to continue the
  original thread.
 
  @Noufal, I am on phone with Times of India office. Yes, I want actual
 women
  participating and not just feel good about it. Yes, it is very annoying
  when the reports are diluted/distorted.
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
I thank Anand Chitipothu for making Pycon India 2013 women inclusive.
   Since
he has already made a comment that there was enough participation
 from
women, there are a few facts that I want get them straight.
   
  
   Not sure what you mean by women inclusive here. PyCon India was never
   women exclusive, we always had women participants and speakers.
  
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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Anand B Pillai
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On Monday 23 September 2013 05:06 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Annapoornima Koppad 
 a.kop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,
 
 Pyladies Bangalore was recently featured in Times of India dated,
 22nd sept and later on 23 sept as well. [1]. I am not able to
 find the link for the 23rd edition.
 
 I thank Anand Chitipothu for making Pycon India 2013 women
 inclusive. Since he has already made a comment that there was
 enough participation from women, there are a few facts that I
 want get them straight.
 
 Dear Mr. Anand Chitipothu, can you please provide the exact
 number of women participants in Pycon India 2013? How many women
 were key note speakers? I would like a list of their email ids
 and names if they were women. I need them because I want to
 increase the Pyladies visibility and also encourage ladies in
 other cities to start Pyladies chapter in their respective towns 
 and cities.
 
 Also, Mr. Anand, can you please provide me an introduction to
 Shilpa Patankar the news reporter so that I can give her the
 status of Pyladies Bangalore, overview of goals, etc.
 
 [1]. 
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/personal-tech/computing/Women-programmers-learn-to-schmooze/articleshow/22877116.cms


 
I wholeheartedly thank Anand Chitipothu ( and the other volunteers) for
 making Pycon India 2013 a women inclusive event.
 
 
 A gentle reminder there are three mailing lists with their
 respective agendas as follows :
 
 bangpypers : EMPHASIZEThis group is for discussions related to
 the Python programming language/EMPHASIZE. We welcome all kinds
 of discussions related to Python. inpycon: This mailing list is for
 discussions regarding organizing Pycon India. Anyone who is
 interested to take an active role in EMPHASIZEdiscussing and/or
 organizing PyCon India /EMPHASIZE is welcome to join the list. 
 ipss: Discussions related to the Indian Python Software Society. I
 believe there is another pyladies group which discusses associated 
 appropriate issues.
 
 I am subscribed to this mailing list because I am interested in
 the python programming language. Can someone please change the
 documented objective of this mailing list to appropriately reflect
 the reality if I my perception is stale or out of date.

+1. Suggest to keep topics closer to the interpreter.
There are other lists specifically devoted to discussion
of diversity and related issues.

This list has a lot of legacy in creating and nurturing
the Python community by discussing mostly programming
related topics - and not creating too many fault-lines
while doing so.

No more comments on this thread please. I am suggesting
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Re: [BangPypers] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

2013-09-23 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Anand B Pillai anandpil...@letterboxes.org writes:


[...]

 +1. Suggest to keep topics closer to the interpreter.
 There are other lists specifically devoted to discussion
 of diversity and related issues.

 This list has a lot of legacy in creating and nurturing
 the Python community by discussing mostly programming
 related topics - and not creating too many fault-lines
 while doing so.

 No more comments on this thread please. I am suggesting
 this as the list moderator.

 I am sorry to say - but any further posts to this thread will
 be monitored and moderated - if needed.

[...]

Agreed. This whole discussion is closer to what Inpycon was made
for. If any of the OPs want to continue it there, please do so but leave
BangPypers out of it.

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2013-09-23 Thread bab mis
Hi ,Any XML parser which gives the same kind of data structure as yaml parser 
gives in python.  Tried with xmlmindom but ir's not of a proper datastrucure 
,every time i need to read by element and create the dict.  
   
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2013-09-23 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
bab mis bab...@outlook.com writes:

 Hi ,Any XML parser which gives the same kind of data structure as yaml
 parser gives in python.  Tried with xmlmindom but ir's not of a proper
 datastrucure ,every time i need to read by element and create the
 dict.

lxml probably. The ElementTree API in the standard library gives you
an API better than than the DOM ones but that's not saying much.
[...]


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Noufal
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Re: [BangPypers] XML parser in python returns data strucure as YAML parser do

2013-09-23 Thread bab mis


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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:38:16 +0530




Hi ,Any XML parser which gives the same kind of data structure as yaml parser 
gives in python.  Tried with xmlmindom but ir's not of a proper datastrucure 
,every time i need to read by element and create the dict.  
   
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