[BangPypers] JOB: {Commercial}: Require Python/Django developers
We are Netzary, a systems Integration company. We are looking for Python/Django developers with 0-4 years experience to join either as a software developer or senior software developer. We work mostly on Django, Core Python for Non-Web/Mobile projects and on Flutter. This the JD. There are 3 openings in Bangalore. Must have: 1. In-depth knowledge of Python with experience in a web development framework. 2. Experience with Django framework to delivery MVC based applications. 3 Knowledge of Advanced SQL concepts RDBMS (MySQL, Postgres, Oracle). 4. Good Communication Skills 5. Good understanding Mobile apps and ideas(no experience required) 6. Must Collaborate with other engineers and UX design team. 7. Solid understanding of CSS, HTML and JS We are based in Jayanagar. Please send your resume to kish...@netzary.com or via this link http://www.netzary.com/career/ warm regards Ramdas S +91 90350 83065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] COMMERCIAL[Python/Django Specialists]
Dear all, A startup I am consulting with a very strong brick and mortar business model and is now implementing the same on the Internet. We need couple of Python/Django developers with 2-5 years experience full time. Knowledge of AngullarJS and Jquery is a huge plus. The salaries will be on or above industry standard. All standard perks included. Please email me off the group to get started. Ramdas ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers completes 10 years
Yes. I remember the motley crowd which assembled somewhere in MG Road hotel on your call On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Anand B Pillai anandpil...@letterboxes.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Senthil, On Thursday 13 August 2015 07:50 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: On Aug 13, 2015 12:19 AM, Anand B Pillai anandpil...@letterboxes.org wrote: From Feb 2005 when it started its life in Yahoo! groups, BangPypers mailing list - from its original form - has completed 10 years. Congratulations to this group. By reminding this, you just made everyone, whoever joined early, feel old. It's been a long run and group has been managed well. You've been there from the very beginning - no wonder you feel old. For a matter of fact, I feel like *very* old now :) Thank you for the positive comments. We've learned and grown with this list and it feels like an old friend now - which is the best thing about it at the end of day I feel. Cheers! Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers - -- Regards, - --Anand - Software Architect/Consultant anandpil...@letterboxes.org Cell: +919880078014 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVzWLjAAoJEHKU2n17CpvDUioIAIN/jJHwvCnFqPTfEp5kCHQ1 K+NxDf/5Lrn+UgEsTprguVxjsehTF+tVfpcbu2UvajUB47Bi9V2a3ucIZY5Mo5xN t/aREhw+dfXx0DX2ncRyqDtDxtR7THcZHnmP4ow6F2yPesw0tn2ZFBzm7Pcb8AOy j4Lstr4pO43atW+3V22LLR+HDEI5fsRwb2STgVMep032ZPH3n3yPhvDUTTa5ix29 DU7yzBXxcCqrICH5kgM8CGCMh4sZQhCjkPWyzdVdGQGC1Dygz1B4q6lASb8GaFj8 p4fh+m3pHmPLSHK2PuPb8k1nBKbKMEtx4G8t6qWvO3H2pVmpGxLwS9jG2r91Qaw= =kzdy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Bottle
Hey, Are there people working on Bottle? Or are there people with an interest in Bottle? I am kind of thinking of using Bottle for some of the smaller projects and work where we don't have the choice to reuse packages, and built stuff ourself. I am interested in hosting a meet to discuss some Bottle related stuff. Any day after 5 PM at our office in Jayanagar 4th T Block. Can host easily 15 people. Kind of tired of Django after playing around with for years Do let me know Ramdas ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Bottle
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Anand Reddy Pandikunta anand21na...@gmail.com wrote: what about flask? Nothing against Flask. But it's getting bigger. Let me say I want to explore stuff that's not very popular but is cool. We did a quick job with Bottle and it was quicker than what we thought it would take. And I personally learnt a lot more than years of Django. No magic is sometimes good. Let's say we ignore the big two Python web frameworks and dinosaurs of last century like Zope and Plone. I don't remember who, but I saw someone talking of Pulsar and aiohttp (?). Want to meet up with some folks. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Bottle
I don't think anyone is debating the advantages of tedjango, and the huge community support. But this is more fun stuff. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:57 PM, kracekumar ramaraju kracethekingma...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Deep Sukhwani deepsukhw...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, good to be a part of this discussion! I am a newb in the world of web frameworks. I tried learning Django a while ago, probably 3 months back from now, but gave up trying really hard.. It just lost me every now and then with the mere complexities. If you're doing hello world in web framework, yes it is more complicated. If you're developing full blown application then Django has all the necessary components. I am not saying you can't do that with Flask. I then gave that up as I got into a new job and moved to Bangalore. Now I have recently started learning Flask at An Introduction to Flask by Miguel Grinberg http://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world . Don't know how long would I stick to that... Anyways, open to show up on weekends for any talks on similar discipline. ᐧ -- Regards Deep L Sukhwani Mob: +91 9687 000 830 On 19 June 2015 at 19:20, Ramdas S ram...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Anand Reddy Pandikunta anand21na...@gmail.com wrote: what about flask? Nothing against Flask. But it's getting bigger. Let me say I want to explore stuff that's not very popular but is cool. We did a quick job with Bottle and it was quicker than what we thought it would take. And I personally learnt a lot more than years of Django. No magic is sometimes good. Let's say we ignore the big two Python web frameworks and dinosaurs of last century like Zope and Plone. I don't remember who, but I saw someone talking of Pulsar and aiohttp (?). Want to meet up with some folks. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- *Thanks RegardskracekumarTalk is cheap, show me the code -- Linus Torvaldshttp://kracekumar.com http://kracekumar.com* -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Anyone who has worked on Lamson?
Just in case anyone is interested, I spent some time late last night/early morning hours in hacking together some stuff using a some tornado app called bonzo. I am able to capture mails and route them. Just need to figure some way to do some authentication. Tornado is pretty fast, I ran a test of 300 mails in a minute on a core i3 laptop it is very stable. While I have no knowledge of Lamson, I would echo Noufal in recommending something like postfix. Cannot go into details without knowing more about your requirements, and anyway those would not be germane to this list, but postfix's transport system is very flexible in allowing mail redirection. IMHO, one should use the right tool for the job at hand. Regards. Gora -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Anyone who has worked on Lamson?
Kracekumar, The last update of Bruebeck is some 2 years ago. Is someone maintaining this project. It definitely looks interesting. I am looking at tornado. I need speed and flexiblily. Non blocking stuff seems to be the way forward. Also we don't have time. No one is getting paid extra for this job. This is a huge favor to cover up a failure :( On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:50 PM, kracekumar ramaraju kracethekingma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ramdas AFAIK brubeck is the fastest Python framework along with gevent. It uses Mongrel2 and ZMQ, https://github.com/j2labs/brubeck/tree/nubeck. Unfortunately it is in maintenance mode, but ideas can be borrowed for scale. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:20 PM Ramdas S ram...@gmail.com wrote: Just in case anyone is interested, I spent some time late last night/early morning hours in hacking together some stuff using a some tornado app called bonzo. I am able to capture mails and route them. Just need to figure some way to do some authentication. Tornado is pretty fast, I ran a test of 300 mails in a minute on a core i3 laptop it is very stable. While I have no knowledge of Lamson, I would echo Noufal in recommending something like postfix. Cannot go into details without knowing more about your requirements, and anyway those would not be germane to this list, but postfix's transport system is very flexible in allowing mail redirection. IMHO, one should use the right tool for the job at hand. Regards. Gora -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Anyone who has worked on Lamson?
Need to have an offline call, if they have time and if available, to take a quick decision to take a call on to shelve or use this tool or build somethig from scratch... Ramdas ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Anyone who has worked on Lamson?
Noufal, I want to use this for setting up an interim SMTP server which based on certain rules should decide whether the mails need to go through the normal corporate server, or should go through an alternate SMTP server. This is primarily to reduce outbound spam as a result of some marketing campaigns running on side. Is this an application for which you can use Lamson, the docs and other stuff is very confusing. tldr; 1)create a middleman SMTP gateway which captures the mail 2) parses it and 3) then decides what to do with it. The 2nd and 3rd part can be done easily with existing known libraries, is Lamson recommended to do the first job or is there anything better? Ramdas On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV nou...@nibrahim.net.in wrote: On Wed, May 27 2015, Ramdas S wrote: Need to have an offline call, if they have time and if available, to take a quick decision to take a call on to shelve or use this tool or build somethig from scratch... [...] I wrote an email interface to a ticketing system using lamson once. It's very nice. An MVC framework for emails. However, the community is not very active (I'm on the mailing list) and I don't know how much it's maintained and worked on. Also, it requires setup, monitoring, configuration etc. of an email server so we didn't deploy my solution and instead opted for a little script that fetched emails via IMAP from the gateway and processed them in batches on a regular basis. I wouldn't use it for a production system. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Anyone who has worked on Lamson?
Harish/Gora/Noufel, Actually the rules I am guessing are not just based on fields. I guess sometime later we want to do some some deep diving there. So I want to do some stuff with a programming language may be write and read stuff to some redis kind of in-memory database. A typical rule I want to write is rate limiting for a particular email id to certain specifc domains. Or based on particular set of message reroute that through an alternate email server or use some Amazon SES kind of an API. Standard Postfix stuff I have seen is just not flexible enough. I saw something called milters, but not sure whether the project is dead. Also mails going out could be as high as 30,000 emails an hour during peak hour. So 30 K mails may have to parsed, I am not very sure about Python performance there. But we can always throw more hardware to solve performance issue. To define the problem. 1)I set up an interim SMTP server which listens to a bunch of rules 2) All users authenticate to the SMTP server and sends the mail using the server. It would be almost like a email relay kind of connection. 3) Once the email arrives, it parses the email, checks some database etc, does some simple number crunching, 4) And then reroutes the mail through an alternate SMTP server to reach the customer. 5) It may also decide not to send the mail. You can think off this as an outbound spam gateway. Ramdas While I have no knowledge of Lamson, I would echo Noufal in recommending something like postfix. Cannot go into details without knowing more about your requirements, and anyway those would not be germane to this list, but postfix's transport system is very flexible in allowing mail redirection. IMHO, one should use the right tool for the job at hand. Regards. Gora ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Django pagination
Would recommend Django Endless Pagination. It has a Jquery plugin which can easily be extended On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:44 PM, ragsagar ragsa...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On 16 February 2015 at 12:42, Shashidhar Paragonda shashidha...@gmail.com wrote: hello hackers, I need help on implementing pagination for Restful responses in django, front hand I am using angular js. Basically I get customer details from rest request and I need to divide then by 25 per page with pagination how can I achieve this. No Db involved here. You can use django.core.paginator.Paginator. You can pass it the list of objects you want to paginate. If the front-end is in AngularJS, you should probably do the pagination there. The JSON sent to AngularJS can contain a list of the entities to be paginated. If the number of items is large, it is better to do the pagination in django itself, Since angular tends to become slow when rendering large number of items especially when using ng-render. Regards, Gora ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- blog : blog.ragsagar.in mail id : python -c print '@'.join(['ragsagar','.'.join([x for x in ['gmail','com']])]) ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] COMMERCIAL: Freelancers w experience in Python/Django/responsive web stuff
Dear all, We have some extra work which may have to outsource. Only Bengaluru based developers contact me. I would love to work with non Bengaluru based guys too. But distances matter. Companies please avoid -- there is not enough margin for all of us to make. Freelancers with about 20-40 hours of spare time at least a month, please contact me off the forum on RAMDAZ AT GMAIL DOT COM... Thanks PS Admins: I hope the ad meets the guidelines ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python for Android development
Went thru. Has Kivy started supporting GPS and photo capture? Rest of it is fairly OK On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Kartik Singhal kartiksing...@gmail.comwrote: Thought of sharing, though many among the list might have gone through this already (currently trending on HN) - Android: The Land That Python Forgot (PyCon Canada): https://speakerdeck.com/player/ee88fcf0e4010130a0b1566329155b74 -- Kartik http://k4rtik.wordpress.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: How to do clustering in python.
HA Proxy could be a more professional bet If the protocol is HTTP, you can use mod_proxy_balancer: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy_balancer.html -- Baiju M ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] File upload to Server using FTP in Django?
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Amit Sethi amit.pureene...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Sameerkatti , First of all , My first recommendation would be not to possibly to do what you are trying to . If you have to an open ftp connection to upload a file in a web application. I am also most certain that there is something wrong in your application by design . 2. Wether you like it or not you will have to be more explicit with the code you share when asking a question. As Gora has pointed it is not sufficiently clear what you are doing. I am also sure that in my python which as you have pointed out may not be same as yours , there would have been a much more explanatory traceback with the line number of error and many other details which most people seem to require when debugging. 3. Perhaps most importantly you need to learn some modesty and humility which I think pays a much more important role in successfully building software application . Much more than working code +1. Humility helps especially if you need help from forums -- A-M-I-T S|S ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] https://github.com/pythonhacker/ladies.py
I think this is getting out of hand. There were mistakes made intentional or otherwise and this caused a lot of ill will. I'm not particularly fond of witch hunts. I don't think they're very effective and the damage done to the larger organisation when one of these things happen is often irreparable. The issue was raised on the mailing list and apologies were sent. If they are insufficient, it would be best to seek recitification by direct conversation rather than discussing it on a mailing list. Anand, Svashka and Annapoornima have all done a lot of work for the Python community in India. More than the work done by some of the others participating in this thread. While they have their differences, I don't think an internet drama is going to help matters in *any* way. I'm particularly put off by random people on the mailing list demanding that Anand be warned by the PSF or suggesting disciplinary action. People can make complaints and if necessary, action can be taken. I'd recommend (but don't expect) that the thread should be closed right now and further talk about this should be done between the parties involved rather than here on the mailing list. +1 While I understand that some people are hurt, and they have a right to be hurt, but everyone is making it look and sound personal. Anand is someone who has contributed immensely as a programmer, and as an evangelist to Python community. His humour may be distasteful, misogynist or whatever, but that are his personal views, and definitely not as IPSS President or PSF member. If someone needs an apology bigger than whatever he has offered, do call him or mail him. Else please bury the hatchet and smoke peace pipes :) ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] RIP - Atul Chitnis
It's extremely sad. Atul may never the most favourite FOSS icon for many of us, but you simply need to salute the spirit of the man and his enterprising nature. Anand Pillai, you may remember the afternoon we both spent with him at his office discussing possibilities of a Python mini-conference at Foss.in in 2005. He did give us some ideas then RIP Atul! Thanks for everything 2013/6/3 G.T.RAO netwebst...@gmail.com R.I.P Atul Chitnis ,Another big loss for FOSS community. father of foss.inpassed away. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Venkatraman S venka...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atul_Chitnis -V @venkasub http://about.me/venkasub ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers G.T.RAO http://fossyatra.wordpress.com लिनक्स: नि:शुल्क और खुले स्रोत सॉफ्टवेयर आप के लिए और दुनिया के लिए अच्छा है. ना कोई adware,ना कोई spyware, सिर्फ अच्छा सॉफ्टवेयर. Linux(લિનક્ષ ): મુક્ત અને નિઃશુલ્ક(મફત) ઓપન સોર્સ સોફ્ટવેર તમારા માટે અને વિશ્વ માટે સારું છે. ના કોઈ એડવેર , ના કોઈ સ્પાયવેર, માત્ર સારું સોફ્ટવેર. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Reorder Dictionary Size in python
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Rahul R rahul8...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh , sorry If i wasnt clear the first time. I dint mean reorder the data in dictionary. I meant resize the dictionary. What do you mean by resize? ./Rahul On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com wrote: dictionaries are unordered. It is not a good idea to expect any order in dictionaries, even if you are seeing some order by chance. If you need order, then use OrderedDict from collections module (new in Python 2.7). Anand On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Rahul R rahul8...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Guys, Is it possible to forcibly reorder the python dictionary after n number of inserts and deletions. As far as i know, python dictionary performs lazy deletes. Thus , even if the data is deleted, python has a dummy data their in order to preserve consistency. The python dictionary keeps expanding when the size of dict is increasing, but after deleting a few parameters the size does not decrease. Is there a way , where I can forcibly resize the dictionary ? I was thinking of copying content from existing dictionary to new dict and deleting the previous one.But thats a cumbersome operation. Thanks, ./Rahul ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Anand http://anandology.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Amazon and Django
Anyone running Django apps on amazon, I need to spec and figure out some costing. Please do let me know? http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Amazon and Django
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On 16 April 2013 17:02, Ramdas S ram...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone running Django apps on amazon, I need to spec and figure out some costing. Please do let me know? http://ramdaz.wordpress.com This is maybe a little off-topic, but we do use Django extensively on AWS. Maybe contact me off-list? Absolutely, give me your contact details Regards, Gora -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalvas)
Vey Sad and quite shocked. Unbelievable, we worked on couple of projects together last year... ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Job list
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Sidu Ponnappa lorddae...@gmail.com wrote: The only suggestion I have, then, is that we be stricter about the right tagging. I prefer job posts by engineers for engineers (because these are generally well written, informative and correctly tagged), and a significant upswing in untagged recruiter posts prompted my suggestion to Noufal. Sidu, I guess etiquette is in place. But then not everyone follows. You will always have a few recruiters who would slip in, and we can always ban them on repeated offence. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Kivi
Is there anyone with some practical experience on Kivi, and any recommendation whether it can be used to build a simple survey app on Android platform w/photo capturing feature Thanks ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] COMMERCIAL[Job Opening]
Dear all, Serendipity Infolabs runs a portal called www.taxiforsure.com, and they need more Python/Django developers. They are already making revenues, and are close to their second round of funding. The ideal candidates should have 1-4 years experience in Python, and preferably some decent experience in Django. These are full time professionals. I had consulted with their team in the initial days of the project, and they have some of the nicest guys around with really cool ideas. I am privy to some of the plans which they have for the portal, and the kind of work which you can do would be fairly cutting edge and exciting. If you are a Python developer with a few years of experience and are looking at a change, then I will totally recommend you to connect with Raghu on ra...@taxiforsure.com, and start a discussion. There is also one opening for bright freshers or developers with less than one year experience. Thanks Ramdas PS: Hope I have met the user group etiquette rules ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] check printing with python
Is there anyway to print a check online using Django/Python? I see a possibility of making PDF on the fly, and sending it to the printer, but I want some opinion ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] File read
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:56 PM, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote:
Hey Shashidhar,
Others may answer your question, I am not going to do that right away.
I'll just offer a few suggestions to clean up your code. If you do that, I
promise to answer your questions:
a. Use os.path.join() to join path components
b. You don't /have/ to read all the lines of the file into a list before
processing it. The pythonic way would be:
with open(filename) as input_file:
for line in input_file.readline():
...do stuff ...
c. You don't need to iterate over lists using numeric indexes. Even if you
/need/ numeric index, use enumerate. So, instead of :
for index in range(len(somelist)):
...do something with somelist[index] ...
OR
...do something with index ...
use something like:
for element in somelist:
...do something with element...
OR
for index, element in enumerate(somelist):
...do something with index or element
d. Don't chain string operations to just match a substring, use regular
expressions. If you /have/ to chain string operations (for instance, to
extract rather than match), chain them only once. So, instead of :
if
all_lines_in_file[line].split(**'-')[1].split(')')[0].split(**')[1].strip()
== true:
...
...
print ZMP value %s % all_lines_in_file[line].split(**
'-')[1].split(')')[0].split(**')[1].strip()
...and more such monstrosities, do either:
stuff_that_interests_me = line.split('-')[1].split(')')**
[0](')[1].strip()
if stuff_that_interests_me == 'true':
or just:
matched = re.search(-\((.*)\), line) # or some such, depending on the
format
if matched:
stuff_that_interests_me = matched.group()
e. If you need one of three options as values of a dict (which I assume
will serve as a config dict), default the config keys to something. So, do:
config = {'MyFirstKey' : 'ASK',
'MyNextKey' : 'ASK',
...
}
for line in all_lines:
...extract stuff_that_interests_me from line...
if 'MyFirstKey' in line:
if stuff_that_interests_me == 'true':
config['MyFirstKey'] = 'ON'
elif stuff_that_interests_me == 'false':
config['MyFirstKey'] = 'OFF'
...
HTH,
cheers,
- steve
Kudos, Steve. This is definitely the best answer which I have seen in this
discussion group, all these years.
I think you have set an example on how an experienced hand should direct a
not so-experienced one.
Many Many Thanks
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Re: [BangPypers] 'dict' object has no attribute 'company_name'
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charges = [(c.company_name)
for c in
ReportModel.objects.values('company_name').distinct()]
but it throws this error: 'dict' object has no attribute 'company_name'
paste the whole code somewhere may be dpaste.com and ask the question
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Re: [BangPypers] parsing xml
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Re: [BangPypers] parsing xml
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Venkatraman S venka...@gmail.com wrote: parsing using minidom is one of the slowest. if you just want to extract the distance and assuming that it(the tag) will always be consistent, then i would always suggest regexp. xml parsing is a pain. [...] Strongly disagree. IMHO, regexps are the wrong solution for parsing XML (or, any kind of well-structured text), as they end up becoming intolerably complex, and do not degrade gracefully for broken XML. Have not compared speeds myself, but there are blogs that go into that. In my experience, the cleanest, most efficient, and richest-in-features Python XML library is lxml. For people used to BeautifulSoup, lxml has a BeautifulSoup parser, and is significantly more efficient. If it's a questions of the fastest gun around it must be cElementTree, and please refer the table somewhere towards bottom of the page. Caveat, the page belongs to effbot who is written the package. http://effbot.org/zone/celementtree.htm Regards, Gora ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [pythonpune] need for Python based CRM/ERP system...extensible
I would also On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Gopalakrishnan Subramani gopalakrishnan.subram...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I missed few mail chain.. I apologies if someone/you pointed out OpenERP. Take a look at ERPNext. This is developed by an Indian company in Mumbai, who keeps a pretty low profile, it's all python https://github.com/webnotes ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] language fanaticism
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Sidu Ponnappa lorddae...@gmail.com writes: many bitter experiences - security is a nightmare for php apps. Take a look at the number of security updates wordpress has per *month* - more than django has had in 6 *years*. That is based on strong correlation between PHP applications and poor engineering. If we're having a philosophical debate, the question then is 'What if there was a hypothetical, well engineered open source PHP application?' I'm torn. Purely philosophically, I would be fine dealing with it assuming I had the time to spare to learn PHP idioms, and that time was otherwise spent solving real issues and not problems caused by rubbish code. Practically though, PHP as a language makes my teeth ache, and from what I've seen well factored PHP programs spend a lot of time working around the limitations of the language. It's turing complete, but pretty much the only other language that I've used that I like less is XSLT. It has more than a fair share of rough spots but it also has it's own advantages. I think PHP is like english in the sense, it's easy to speak/write even when ones control over the language is minimal. YOu can get a whole web site up and running quickly without knowing much. THis has spawned a series of poorly engineered apps which (because worse is better) have hit the net. However, there are really large deployments of PHP out there which are quite stable. archive.org, facebook, wikipedia and (as I heard from the recent PHPCloud conference here), Flipkart. So, given a good team, you can get things right. This whole thing is a digression though. My basic point is that if there's a tool written already that *does* the job you want done, would you stay away from it purely because its not in your favourite language? My outlook is that code is liability. If I can get the job done without writing code, that's probably what I'll do. Very important point here. I guess problem with a ready to use app whether written in Python or PHP would be one of flexibility and scalability, and would not depend on the language, but on how the original developer has designed. While Noufal is right, that if all I need is a blog, then create it in wordpress or any of the other freebie stuff. Problem starts when you want the blog to be heavily customized, like another content driven site, you have no choice but dirty your hands. Question is whether you want to write Python or PHP at that time. Wordpress is probably the poster boy for poorly engineered PHP apps but I'd prefer using it (and applying security patches when they come out) rather than writing (and more importantly spending time maintaining) my own blogging app in the latest and greatest Python framework. As for Kenneth's points on the LUG sites, they're simply poorly maintained. A lot of high profile secure sites run on PHP so it's a moot argument. [...] -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in Our similarities are different. -Dale Berra, son of Yogi ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] COMMERCIAL-- BOUNTY or Consulting assignment
Hi, We have a project that's is to build a desktop application on top of Linux using Python either using PyQT or wxPython. We estimate around 15-20 hours of work for an experienced developer. Apart from building a GUI, this would also mean writing code to recognize CD Drives, removable disk and cards. Rest of the logic would be simple. Interested. please get off the list, via email with me -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] How to compare the relevancy between news headlines?
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Re: [BangPypers] [commercial] python/django training
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:28 AM, ॥ स्वक्ष ॥ v...@svaksha.com wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 11:27, Ramdas S ram...@gmail.com wrote: [.] If you want to offer training free, do it for a community that deserves. Go to engineering colleges or schools, and organize a workshop or two, create a few pythonistas there. I am a little stunned after reading the above. Setting aside the 'free vs non-free debate', are you implying that people who are not studying in engineering colleges or schools are a community that dont deserve Django training and/or are incapable of learning it? I am not quite sure what exactly your point here is, but your last para above definitely smacks of ageism** -- something very commonly practiced in India but few will admit it openly. Free software reverses all cognitive bias'es (with respect to the individual's a(p)ttitude to learning) and being an employer yourself, I hope you dont really mean that people outside a University/College environment are not a worthy community. Has it crossed your mind that the OP (Kenneth) offering the training hardly would fall in the community category that you claim/believe deserves support. This thread went OT a long time ago but I didnt expect to see an ageism bias on a Python list. Its just not funny. ** Fwiw, its not uncommon to see many Indian Universities and colleges advertising admission cut-off requirements, say, age limit 25 years for Masters, etc... Essentially, that leaves people outside their teens (or early twenties) who want to learn at the mercy of distance education which has no value in the eyes of an employer. Its a catch22 situation. I am sorry to say, but I guess you are reading too much into what I had written, and using your vivid imagination to come with ideas which was never implied. The only point I wanted to drive to the gentleman who said he will offer free training, that any* service offered freely* has* no value* in *our society*. If someone needs *to do charit*y, then do it a community that probably deserves, not to a bunch of software professionals, who has means and ways of paying for it. I am of this firm opinion and from my own little experience in the past. I suggested student community because an average student needs to depend on scholarships or parent's income to learn something more. If there are communities outside students, that deserves please go ahead. I *never made an exclusive statement *of schools and colleges. Kenneth as I understand is *offering nothing free*. He is charging* 25,000*for mentoring someone to be a Django/Python developer spending his personal time, energy and sharing his vast experience. He says exercise would take 1-3 months. Personally I feel he's charging low, but I am sure he has his economics right! It *does not in anyway make it a community* effort. Kenneth or anyone in this list has any such notion, or even making any such claims. I am not able to understand where you formed such an opinion that we are passing this off as a community effort. No we are not, and as far as I see there's *commercial in square brackets* in the subject of the mail. However if a few more experienced hands like Kenneth comes forward and creates a few more Python developers it would help the community. This I am very clear. He is offering a service, and he is expecting to be paid for it! It's no different from a service offered by some one else or by you or me. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Oursql
Is there anyone in the group, any experience to report on Oursql 1]http://packages.python.org/oursql/ We are considering using to mine and extract a lot of information from huge complex MySQl database with a few hundred tables spanning several relationships. Someone recommended it on IRC, saying it's better than Mysql.db On the hindsight it looks cool. Couldn't find any bad comments on the web site. Seems not many have played with it. Nothing wrong with Mysqldb, but some crazy unicode errors keeps cropping up once in a while. Oursql seems fine with it. Looking for a second opinion. I am looking some reasons if any not to use it., or some more strong recommendation so that we can take the plunge or stick to Mysqldb. -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [commercial] python/django training
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:00 PM, srinivasa rao srinivasaene...@gmail.comwrote: hi I have 5 years exp using Python/Django i want to give free training to all please contact Srinivas, I appreciate your enthusiasm. But a word of caution. Moment you start giving away a service free, it's value go down, and the average freebie seeker will never see the value of your efforts. Charge something even if it's Rs 100. It's not the same as dropping your code for others to learn, cntribute and use, which is how the free and open source community work. The value of your source code go up manyfold, as more people use, fix bugs and create a better platform. If you want to offer training free, do it for a community that deserves. Go to engineering colleges or schools, and organize a workshop or two, create a few pythonistas there. Ramdas ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Web Application Development
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:13 PM, vivek durai vi...@vivekdurai.com wrote: [...] Anyone with experience in Pyramid who can lend their wisdom would be much appreciated (or anyone who can show the way with the django formwizard - svn version). [...] Haven't used pyramid, but what issues are you facing with Django form wizard? I thought most of it got fixed Regards, Gora ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [commercial] python/django training
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Re: [BangPypers] Django + NoSQL
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 20 2011, Anush Shetty wrote: Hi All, What is the most preferred NoSQL engine with Django here. Would like to hear out some experiences. [...] You could just let Django use it's own ORM and relational backend and then use any of the popular bindings to one of the non relational systems and use that in your app. You won't have tight coupling with Djano and all that but that's an advantage (atleast in my opinion).u All NoSQL programs that works well with Python works well with Django. I guess you must define your problem clearly, will make it easier for the community to advise you better -- ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: Help with Python IDE's
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Any suggestions for Cherian ? I am not myself aware of any Django specific IDE. Pycharm is the best IDE available, but its commercial Otherwise you can use Eclipse + Pydev You could refer him to http://lmgtfy.com/?q=django+ide :-) Most any IDE that one is using, and that handles Python should work. Personally, I use emacs with various modes for Django development. Regards, Gora ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [OT] NoSQL Bangalore Meetup
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.comwrote: 2011/2/26 Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com: On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 09:55:57AM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote: NoSQL Bangalore meetup is happening this sunday. Venue: C42 - http://maps.google.co.in/maps?q=C42 I got interested in this query. I am glad, it asks Did you mean: Calle 42 - Palmira, Valle Del Cauca, Colombia C42, Namibia C42, Grootfontein, Otjozondjupa, Namibia Calle 42 - Calarcá, Quindío, Colombia C42, Otjozondjupa, Namibia C42, Tsumeb, Oshikoto, Namibia C42, Oshikoto, Namibia Otherwise, I was bit scared. Strange. It shows me a single result. Try this: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=C42+bangalore me too. I didn't understand what Senthil was trying to say ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Interesting post on Ruby concurrency model
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Re: [BangPypers] bof anybody
701, Tara Apartments, Infantry Road Bangalore-56001 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:38 PM, ॥ स्वक्ष ॥ v...@svaksha.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 06:33, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@gmail.com wrote: hi, will be in Bangalore on Thursday and Friday. Anyone for a BOF? ...BOF on python, django, something else? Time and venue directions please. Preferably Thursday evening. Will be there (if the fever reduces). -- Regards, vid ॥ http://svaksha.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] [JOB-Commercial] -- Openings at Bangalore
Netzary Infodynamics is an infrastructure solutions vendor, primarily focused on messaging, servers, storage and virtualization. We have a number of customers cutting across enterprise, government and SMB sector. Almost all our solutions and services are created using Python. *Python developer*--1-2 Years experience. Knowledge of core libraries, and sound knowledge of Linux internals and concepts is a requirement. The job requires you to work with existing open source packages and write applications based on APIs, libraries and wrappers of Linux infrastructure products an eg:Xen, KVM, Remus, Squid etc *Django Developer* -- 6 months to 2 Years experience with Django ( not just Python). Knowledge of Ajax (JQuery) is an additional requirement. Knowledge of CSS and web tools is an advantage. An experience of being involved with at least a couple of serious Django projects (not just a CMS stuff) is necessary. *Web designer* -- Knowledge of HTML and CSS is an absolute necessity. Ideal candidate must be creative. Knowledge of popular design tools is an advantage. Experience of 6 months -4 years. The candidate need not know Python, but will need to work with Python developers. All jobs are full time and are based in Bangalore. The team will be based off our Infantry Road office for first 3 months, and then would be relocated to our new Indirangar facility. We may be able to hire you this week itself, if you are the right candidate. Mail your resume to info AT netzary.com. Thanks for reading -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] bof anybody
Guys/Gals, I know its Thursday. But since our IPSS President is in town, we would like to have some more company. Please join us. This is a very central place. Hardly 5 minutes walk from Sivajinagar Bus station. Please RSVP on the list Ramdas On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 14:59 +0530, Ramdas S wrote: 701, Tara Apartments, Infantry Road Bangalore-56001 6.30 pm onwards today. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] bof anybody
Where are you likely to be? We can meet at my guest house/office off Infantry Road, which is very central. I can host a few guys there too Ramdas On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@gmail.comwrote: hi, will be in Bangalore on Thursday and Friday. Anyone for a BOF? Preferably Thursday evening. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers meeting February 2011
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Jeffrey Jose jeffjosej...@gmail.comwrote: Its kinda true that noSQL started as 'death to everything that's SQL'. As things got matured people realized noSQL is not a replacement but another tool in developers toolbox to solve problems. And that's the reason some people dont ever use the term 'noSQL' because it sounds like 'No SQL' and if they must they say 'noSQL' stands for 'not only SQL' and not what it sounds. /jeff On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 12 2011, Santosh Rajan wrote: My 2 cents before you jump into the nosql bandwagon. 1) If sql works for you, stick with it. RDBMS's like postgeSQL, MySQL will not wake you up in the middle of the night with a crash. 2) If you have scaling problems, add some horse power to you hardware, battery backed RAID, and solid state hard drives are good for you. (Prices have come down in the last year or two). 3) Disk space is cheap. Avoid joins while using sql as far as possible. Create additional table to do your indexing and grouping. 4) And if you still think you need nosql, god help you. [...] One of the things mentioned during the event was collecting logs from remote sites that have only access to the net for a short while every day. A data store like couch which works by appending documents is ideal for collecting log output. You keep dumping logs into it (over a local connection) and when you have access to the internet, you replicate all the local databases to a master couch database. I liked the idea and think it's an interesting way to approach the problem of synchronising logs. NoSQL databases are interesting and while RDBMs have their own applications, a lot of possiblities open up with document stores. To view them *purely* as alternatives to relational databases is, in my opinion, missing the point. From your last point, I take it that you feel that one shouldn't even consider noSQL databases and somehow spend money and time squeezing performance out of relational databases. That reminds me of people who refuse to try out new languages and technologies and make engineering decisions and stick to, say, COBOL. -- ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers Thought I will pick your brains on this. We are archiving a lot of information, some message format very similar to email in structure, through its not an RFC complaint format. Presently we are storing some basic seachable details in a data base, and the physical file is in a SAN box, with the location of file also in the database. It's fine now, but we are expecting the client to generate a few TB of information over the next 2 years. Does this make a good case of using NoSQL. Also I remember someone saying that NOSQL stuff like MongoDB does a miss a document once in a while. -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
abpil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org
wrote:
hi,
on looking at the telephone book, Indian landline numbers have three
forms
3 digit STD code followed by 8 digits
4 digit STD code followed by 7 digits
5 digit STD code followed by 6 digits
the first digit of the STD code has to be 0. The first digit of the
landline number starts from 1-6. Of course I am not dead sure of the
starting numbers, but I have seen mobile numbers starting with 9 and 8,
and I think 7 is also reserved for mobile. I could not find any
authorative info on this. This is the re:
r'(^0\d{2}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{7})|(^0\d{3}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{6})|(^0
\d{4}[-\s]{1}[1-6]{1}\d{5})'
It is doable, but you should really use pyparsing for this - this is UGLY !
:)
Meanwhile, let me hack on it.
Regex is ugly. I guess Kenneth being django guy wants to use the RegexField
in django forms
any clues on how to make it shorter? And any info as to whether my
assumptions as to the landline numbers is correct?
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Re: [BangPypers] regular expression for Indian landline numbers
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 18:25 +0530, Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे wrote: please give me *some* credit for ability to search - those articles are wildly inaccurate. Did you mean out dated ? Feel free to share the accurate information source (if it is not confidential) I am crowd sourcing the info - and looking at the telephone directory. I am planning to drop in at the BSNL office also (but I doubt anyone will have a clue about it). -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Kenneth, Would appreciate if you can tell whether you want a Regex, or is this to ensure that people enter the right numbers in a form? ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Django-based CMS recommendations?
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Venkatraman S venka...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote: Does this list have a recommendation for a Django-based CMS? Or a review of the one conveniently named Django CMS? Try http://djangopluggables.com/ for the download stats and other options. If all you want is a simple blogging app then can write your own? or assemble together the various django-x apps? or try customizing Pinax? customizing Pinax is not a great idea. Try writing one or try any of the above ones from django-pluggables? -V- http://twitter.com/venkasub ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Umar Shah uma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, With the customization that trac offers by way of plugins, I am sure you will find all your requirements fulfilled. Umar On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Sujit Ghosal thesu...@gmail.com wrote: I think you can give a try to Trac once. - Sujit On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 10:49 +0530, Nigel Babu wrote: Have you tried Redmine? Its built on ruby and I was recommended it multiple times. Not sure how good it is though. heard good things about it - but as you said it is built on Ruby - I want python.Kenneth, Trac has improved a lot since last year, check 0.12. I am not sure what your sophesticated requirements are but this serves most small team purposes. I also would like to draw your attention to http://bitbucket.org/. Its free for five users. Ramdas -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] task tracker and issue manager
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah s...@mahiti.orgwrote: On 20 October 2010 12:23, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 11:57 +0530, JAGANADH G wrote: heard good things about it - but as you said it is built on Ruby - I want python. Even if it is in Ruby it is good. I am using it to manage my team activities in my office . unfortunately I am a python fanatic ;-) http://pinaxproject.com/ This is Django based and if you configure it as intranet tool, it sets up projects with basic task and issue management yeah its way too basic though - sree ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Beginner help
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Anil C R crani...@gmail.com wrote: I would say no IDE... IMO it's not very good starting to learn a language with an IDE. Been long since I wrote code in Windows but you should have nice ones Notepad++ was nice. Which IDE is good for Python is a difficult question I observed that there is a long discussion happening in LinkedIn Python discussiongroup regarding the same. Runs over more than 250 threads -- ** JAGANADH G http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers I've recently started using Aptana community edition 3 beta with Pydev. I used to use scite a text editor before. I cannot quite claim any major gains, but then as an expert developer told me on IRC, an IDE grows on you, you need to give yourself some time to master it. I'd recommend it a try based on my experience -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Beginner help
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Radhakrishna Bhat radhakrishn...@gmail.comwrote: Aptana may not be free. But the PyDev plugin for Eclipse is free. Aptana is released under GPL also, and under a dual licensing model. Please check this link http://aptana.com/legal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] web2py
Hi, I'm looking forward to meet some web2py guys at Pycon. I sense that the approach which web2py uses is very un-Django like. I am probably a django fanboy, are there anyone in the group who uses both. Would love to chat up -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Harvestman error
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Jeffrey Jose jeffjosej...@gmail.comwrote: Let me state at the outset that I have no idea what Harvestman is or what FYI Author of Harvestman Anand Pillai is on this list. -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] hi can any one tell python job for freshers in bangalore ?
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM, jaya kumar jayakumargen...@gmail.com wrote: greetings from kumar i finished my mca 2009 passed out am looking for python jobs for freshers in bangalore if any available means please let me know if i would get a job surely i will move or relocate to bangalore please help am still unemployed from 2009 even my classmates few only placed others still (including me not placed in any company ) due to recession in my class i decide to not to struck with microsoft windows so i choose my carrer path into open source now myself am learning python and php i dont know the growth in this field please i request you to suggest me to set good carrer path to me ? thanking u friends bye take care regards kumar thank u You have asked similar questions in this list earlier and others have responded. Not sure what is the point in repeating the same questions like a robot. Please don't start threads which ask a bunch of questions without any apparent aim. People tend to ignore such questions after a while. http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PythonCompaniesInIndia Find them and talk to them. If they can't help you, no one in the group can ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] hi sir
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM, jaya kumar jayakumargen...@gmail.comwrote: greetings from kumar hi to all am new to python am now learning python i hope this community will help to improve the skills in python ... how to work python in windows ? what are all the editiors we want to install in windows to run python ? python is scripting language python is equal to php ? which one is better for web development please can any one suggest python != php pythonphp Most answers you can use a web site called google and find out, and then try running the tutorials again use google or your fave search engine for answers. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Coaching institute in Bangalore.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Umar Shah uma...@gmail.com wrote: have you done programming in any language before? I am asking this question because generally after having learnt any one language a good starting tutorial (like mentioned in the previous mail) is all that you need to get started. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 16:43, Adityendra Rawat adityendra.rawa...@gmail.com wrote: Can some one tell me about some good coaching centers for Python around Kormangala or Indiranagar area. Download Python here: http://www.python.org/download/ Go through this over the weekend: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ If you run into trouble, ask here. If you don't, work through: http://diveintopython.org/ Coaching centers are hit and miss affairs, you might find a good one, but most likely you won't. Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers To my best of knowledge there are no coaching centers. But I dont mind investing in one, if there's enough scope -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Coaching institute in Bangalore.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Ramdas S ram...@gmail.com wrote: To my best of knowledge there are no coaching centers. But I dont mind investing in one, if there's enough scope No scope. Save your monies for something else worthwhile. Maybe for a Django class, never for learning Python. [..] I'd be *really* wary about a Django training institute. A course held now and then by a larger institute would be fine thoug See it this way. An instituite teaching Python however impractical it's will create a lot more guys with some knowledge of the language. In my experience biggest issue people have with Python is that there are not enough guys out there to code. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Feb user group meeting
[.. ] Attached is the outline I used when talking about the packaging in Python. Packaging in Python === Author: Noufal Ibrahim nou...@nibrahim.net.in Date: 2010-03-11 01:04:42 IST Table of Contents = 1 Terms 1.1 Top level libraries 1.2 Tools 1.3 Services 2 Problems with setuptools 3 Related tools 4 Reference materials 4.1 http://guide.python-distribute.org 4.2 Distutils docs 5 Upto date information 6 Helping out 1 Terms 1.1 Top level libraries - Distutils : Standard library simple stuff - Setuptools: Massive improvements to setuptools by Philip Eby - Distribute: Fork of Setuptools by Tarek - Distutils2: Nextgen distutils + setuptools for standard library (Python 3.3) 1.2 Tools -- - easy_install : Installer which is part of setuptools (PJE) - pip : Next gen installer which will be part of distutils2 (Ian Bicking) 1.3 Services - - PyPI : CPAN for Python (Richard Jones[web] + Andrew Kuchling[metadata]) 2 Problems with setuptools === - Semi unmaintained. - No fast enough releases. - No Python 3 support 3 Related tools - Virtualenv - For private pools of packages which can be used for a projects - Ian Bicking's hack - Buildout - More heavy duty for complete isolated, repeatable installations - Extensible using recipes 4 Reference materials == 4.1 [http://guide.python-distribute.org] - - Hitchhikers guide to packaging - [http://bitbucket.org/tarek/hitchhiker-guide-packaging/wiki/Home] to contribute. - [http://guide.python-distribute.org/history.html] for historical information 4.2 Distutils docs --- - [http://docs.python.org/library/distutils.html] (Greg Ward, Anthony Baxter) 5 Upto date information - [http://twitter.com/packagingpig] - Why a pig? 6 Helping out == - Distutils2 : [https://bitbucket.org/tarek/distutils2/] - Distribute : [https://bitbucket.org/tarek/distribute/] - HHG2P : [https://bitbucket.org/tarek/hitchhiker-guide-packaging/] ---This is something I'd like to attend. Please confirm the dates -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] chk this out!
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Anish Kurian anish...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.zideck.com/blog/article.php?id=5 http://www.zideck.com/blog/article.php?id=5Looking at python through java, end up writing this. Read the comments, most answers are out there -- aNish ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Interesting Read
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Re: [BangPypers] Plzzz help me!!!!!!!!!
just a suggestion. Use something like dpaste.com instead of pasting the code in the mail -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Tuples vs Lists, perfromance difference
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Navin Kabra navin.ka...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Senthil Kumaran orsent...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:15:56AM +0530, Vishal wrote: After having everything in Python now, performance is something people want to look at. Hence these efforts. Would you like to explain a bit more on this? Most often with Python when I have found people speaking about performance and speed, it has been associated either with incorrect expectations or some kind of design mistakes which most of us do when we are beginning. Well said. On an average, a program in a dynamic programming language, if it is CPU bound, is likely to be 10 times slower than one in a static language (like C/C++ or Java). But, programming in python is still acceptable because: 1. Most programs in the world are IO bound (i.e. file IO, database IO or network IO) 2. Most programs don't really need the speed. If #1 is your problem (as is likely), you need to look at the structure and organization of your program to ensure more efficiency of the IOs. This has nothing really to do with python, or lists and tuples, and whether a for loop is faster than a list comprehension. I didn't quite follow you here, I'm sorry. I was chatting with someone in IRC a week back, and here's his theory. He says in languages such as Python or Perl, almost all I/O, database etc are all optimized in C and hence there should not be much of a difference when it comes to such programs. By that theory anything which's in Python that's written in C such as adding, multiplyiig should work as fast as C. However that's not the case as mentioned here http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonSpeed/PerformanceTips#PythonisnotC ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Python performance
Dear all, I saw this doc and a few other docs online. http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonSpeed/PerformanceTips Are there any recommendations on how I can improve performances in case of I/O. I have a program that opens between 4 to 7 text files in memory to analyze data. It runs beautifully on some 100 odd lines of Python code, but its quite slow, sometimes taking a few more seconds than desired. Is there any generic tips out there? -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Do not know how much truth
I was following this thread earlier. I dont think Google has made any statement NOT to use Python anymore. All it's said that developers are advised to choose tools that's in line with demand of projects. Yes the thread does point of deficiencies of Python, and we all know these are issues and still have been writing code in this language. All dynamic languages have to some extent performance issues, we need to live these in search of simplicty... how did you guess my plans? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: Python at KCG College of Technology, Chennai
Great! Keep up the good work. Guys, once we have the society we must do something to encourage similar efforts, please do send in your thoughts, on what can be done Thanks ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Business rule engine in Python
Noufal, We had and have similar requirements. I did some asking at IRC, and the general recommendation was to write custom modules in Python or store the rules as conditions in database tables. We are using the second option and using ORMs its pretty easy to create what you want, and have been shipping a pretty successful messaging solution, which has some fairly complex business rules. I'd suggest you to handroll one On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have a need to implement a rule engine in Python. I have a database which contains some data that needs to be processed based on certain rules that can be modified by a non-technical user using a web interface. The two things which occur to me are 0. a DSL written using some parser generator. 1. some subset of python with functions injected into the environment that I can eval and decide. IS anyone aware of a library or something that does this kind of thing or would it be better if I handrolled one? Thanks -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] How to hide a panel of a notebook
is this wxPython? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Rama Rao Polneni ram...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, My notebook is having 5 panels. Is this a GUI construct? I'm sorry if I seem daft but I can't really place what a notebook is in this context. :) If it's something you've done yourself, maybe you can have a 'stale' boolean attribute for the page which you don't want to see. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] ssh client
pexpect is a good choice, and its way simple, but getting it to work on windows is tough. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Vivek Rajendran vivekbes...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, You want strictly to do this using socket? Else, you can use pexpect module. It doesn't come with default python installation in both windows and linux. You can download it seperately and install the module. Basically you will spawn a process and then ssh into the remote machine. Mahaboob_Subhan wrote: How can I write ssh client using python socket ? Subhan ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/ssh-client-tp26513204p26529988.html Sent from the BangPypers - Bangalore Python Users Group mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Drupal vs. Django
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: We had a thread a while ago inspired by the fossee.in site. I came across this http://birdhouse.org/blog/2009/11/11/drupal-or-django/ which is relevant to the issue and which might interest people who have to make a decision. We've had a thread last 2 days on django-users with our own Kenneth raising some observations, even that's worth following. Nice link Thanks ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Google Go
But I don't see the Python connection at all here. Yeah! I jumped the line without reading. Actually going through now and downloading the stuff I cant see much from Python perspective, that bloody language is full of braces, but yes syntactically its more sugary and clean I guess it might be a lesser learning curve for someone from Python background, learning Go than C++. -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Google Go
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: [..] The company says that Go is experimental, and that it combines the performance and security benefits associated with using a compiled language like C++ with the speed of a dynamic language like Python Perhaps they meant speed of development and the security associated with strong static typing. Upon 2nd reading, I also thought they did, but not a very good disambiguation there I daresay. But security benefits associated to a compiled language - I fall flat there since I don't see any correlation with a language being compiled and its security! Pretty shoddy marketing this... That's what the big boys of the world wants you to believe. I had met a very senior official in the government a techy himself and spent 3 hours showing him virtues of Python and Django, hoping that they will change the RFP terms. I found out yesterday that the application has to be developed on a proven technology like Java,C++ or C#. When I spoke to the gentleman he said his consultant said that dynamically typed languages are not safe for mission critical work. The work is far from being mission-critical is another point altogether. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Google Go
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Darkseid lorddae...@gmail.com wrote: I found out yesterday that the application has to be developed on a proven technology like Java,C++ or C#. When I spoke to the gentleman he said his consultant said that dynamically typed languages are not safe for mission critical work. The work is far from being mission-critical is another point altogether. I do hope you snidely pointed out to him that half of Google runs on Python? :D That's been the original pitch since some time. These days there are creative lies also around some other companies which may have couple of teams working on Python, and I sometimes paint a picture that half the world runs on Python. Problem is actually consultants are somehow trusted more, than a peddler of services from a small IT shop. And since consultants also bill as a percent of the project costs, they want to ensure that stuff that'll take more hours to write, more hours to maintain, and almost always ends up in extended budget costs get sold... Well that's sad state of affairs Best, Sidu. http://blog.sidu.in http://twitter.com/ponnappa ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] 3rd saturday 21st
What's the plan? Speakers/presenters please standup -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] About llvm and llvm-py
Sriram, Can you send the right link for llvm-py On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.com wrote: Folks: LLVM just got released: http://lwn.net/Articles/358646/ While reading up more about LLVM, I chanced upon llvm-py, and invited the author (Mahadevan R) to present on llvm-py at BangPyper meet. This is awesome. I'm extremely eager to get my fingers dirty with LLVM since I think the unladen swallow project is one of the most promising optimisation attempts for Python. Yes. LLVM is interesting indeed. I'm especially impressed by their feature set. When will the presentation be? I'd like it to be in November since we had 2 this month already but that depends on Mahadevan's schedule. Mahadevan has replied and said that he's eager to showcase his work so far. I've sent to him a link to the bangpypers list, and have also asked him which of the upcoming weekends are convenient to him. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open Calais ? Bellenix meeting
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit ard...@gmail.comwrote: The demo given by Anand on semantic search of feeds using OpenCalais was very interesting. The fact that his app essentially did something that Feedlyhttp://www.feedly.com/( based on Google Reader ) does piqued my interest. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I had some stuff to take care of and was too tired to attend the meeting. How did it go? Any tidbits that the list might benefit from? Both sessions were quite good, left us with a lot of ideas, especially OpenCalais stuff. In future we must try to get follow up tracks to some specific interest groups. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Unstructured data and python
Has anyone worked/seen any project which involves migrating unstructured data, mostly text files to a reasonably indexed databas preferably written in Python or has Python APIs. I am even ok if its commercial project. FOSS will be good.. -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Query regarding Weekend Meeting
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sharath Sama shara...@tarangtech.comwrote: Hi, My name is Sharath Sama. I am working on python. I am new to this group.I have a query regarding meetings Who can attend meetings, What is the process to attend. Please guide me. Regards, Sharath Sama Anyone can attend the meeting! There's no process to attend, we are not that process driven Meetings happen at one of the places(usually offices of some company in Bangalore) and this weekend it's @ Thoughtworks (www.thoughtworks.co.in). In fact the first meet was graciously hosted by Anand Pillai at a restaurant in Barton center. Just to clarify, anyone can call for a meeting at anytime they choose at any place ( of course people turning up will depend on individual interest, and also the proximity to the place you choose, as well as the topic of interest). I believe (correct me if I'm wrong), as long as the topic is connected to Python the meeting will be deemed as a BangPypers meet. We have a group's official monthly meetings which was decided for the third weekend every month, during last month. One of the core ideas of this group is to have code jams and sprints which can even be done if two three of us want to at any place like a coffee house or someone's home. But you can use the group for discussions and also attract more coders for your hackathons. Do join this weekend and meet all of us Thanks Ramdas ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Why do indians copy?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: This is getting really offtopic. I think everyone here has joined this mailing list for learning Python and helping others do so. No offense to anyone but can we terminate the discussion here. Off topic, and the generalizations are a lil offensive. But then free speech and all. :)\\ Moderator, Kindly close this thread Roshan Mathews ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Weekend Meeting
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote: On 10/16/09, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.com wrote: We can meet at TW this Sunday, no problem. One other thing that we'd discussed the last weekend was how those who are Python savvy can be a part of the Belenix developer community. I'd like to showcase some of Belenix - especially the ZFS file system, and we could all discuss some of the tools that are needed for such a platform (like storage management software, network administration tools, etc). Great, looking forward to this, especially on Python tools to inspect/manage ZFS, if any. Sriram, If it's not an issue can you also bring some latest Belenix CDs. It'll save some of us bandwidth -- Sriram ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Video streaming and video recording of the meet
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote: Folks: Let's assume that we have good bandwidth to stream video. Let me know what I need to set up here, and I'll see if I can have it ready by Sunday. We can also test all this before the meet Is Baiju around this weekend. I doubt ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Recommendation of hotels nr Pycon event
There are quite a few service apartments in and around the place, which should be within the budget. I think that'll be comfortable for you too On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Dhananjay Nene dhananjay.n...@gmail.comwrote: Just did my travel reservations for travelling to banglore for Pycon. Need recommendations on hotels that are relatively near the event premises (its in IISc right ?). Preferably looking for something less than 3k per night (though I am told such a price category no longer exists in Bangalore hotels). Would be grateful for any recommendations. -- blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Good Python training in blr
IMHO, even an experienced hand in C/C++ or Java need not take to Python easily, because of the baggage they carry, and they expect certain things to work the way their favorite language works. This can be quite frustrating if learning Python is for a project they need to start next Monday. This is where a trainer can help, because the trainer can guide and point out potential pitfalls, and get a developer through the basics in a jiffy. While most of us in this group are self taught Python developers and has perhaps enjoyed from the joys of self learning, it wont be a nice experience if someone targets that I am going to be a Python developer by next week! I guess getting trained is also more about productivity, also if the trainer is really good, then even an experienced Python developer can learn one or two new tips and tricks. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Tuesday 16 June 2009 10:23:04 Banibrata Dutta wrote: frankly people who need to be _trained_ in python can't be of much calibre. I can understand using python to train people in programming, but not the other way around. Isn't that too much of -ve assumption and generalisation ? I've known excellent programmers adept at using other languages, but a training helped them a lot with getting them quickly started. Of course, the mileage did vary, but the above generalisation is completely unfounded. I was expressing a personal opinion. My experience in the few python trainings that I have done was that I ended up training people in programming rather than in python as such. And since I am not much of a programmer, I have given up conducting python training. The most I am willing to do is a ten minute session with the python shell and make sure people know the 'dir' and 'help' commands. I also found that most of the people I had 'trained' in python migrated back to the languages they came from (php or dotnet). As for languages like C, training makes more sense as it is a tough language - I have never managed to learn it. And training in perl makes even less sense as there are so many ways to do things that trainer and trainee will never see eye to eye. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India
I remember reading somewhere that ICH is moved out. Let's have it at Thoughtworks. On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.comwrote: My experience with open environments is that they dilute the discussions. It is difficult to keep the eye away from all the dazzle, especially on MG Road ;) For this, I prefer a closeted place, where we have a whiteboard or something to write on. Much more easier than trying to write on those paper napkins... I don't expect to see more than 5 people. 5 people can easily sit on a table and write in a notebook. I can volunteer to bring notebook and pen :). ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.comwrote: I remember reading somewhere that ICH is moved out. Let's have it at Thoughtworks. Thoughtworks is too far. How about Barista at church street? You seem to have a subversive agenda on MG Road that day. Perhaps a date ;) ? I am OK with meeting on MG Road or church street. :) hmm, that too after 5 PM. I am ok with whichever place, but just decide fast... ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India
Always for anything its smart to start with a budget. We know we can do a single day event for about 1 L plus, and yes, I know sponsorship can be raised for the same. We had written commitments for around the same kind of figure last time we planned a Python conference. A Pycon branding should help us easily raise that number. So take it for granted a one day event is possible. For a 3 day event I think the costs will be 3 L + ( that is in our budget style conference, not a hi-fi one), I am not sure how much of an effort will be required though it's not impossible in anyways to raise that kind of funds. The point here, we need to be clear what we want to do. I am sorry to say, the jingoism seen usually on IRC is never quite reflected on ground. While a 3 day event is a great idea, I will suggest that we do a good 1 day or even a 2 day event. Lofty aims are great, but not at the risk of falling flat somewhere. It'll be nice if we can have an idea how many people are going to turn up for the event? It all depends on how we drive it, and I can assure you without even a single Rupee investment, and with pure goodwill and simple efforts from the user group members, you can reach 99% of all Python aficionados in the country and may be across the world. I am still clueless, whether the event will attract 50,100,150,200, 250 or more? I think a well marketed event(without spending any real money) can get you as high as 250 pythonistas walking in. However we need to basically take a few calls and announce early and do the needful. Again I can be mistaken. However all this is possible if we can have at least 5 people meeting at a common place, and discussing the issues, and taking some decisions, like the date, the number of dates, venue etc. And then get on with the content, logistics and sponsorships. Everyone can do their bit by posting updates on the event on their web sites/blogs and forums, and generally spreading the message in each and every software company you can reach to. Sponsorship interests will also vary on number of people coming in, quality of people etc. So please can we have a meeting, a ** real meeting** to discuss Pycon India? While it's unfair to expect people outside Bangalore to make it to the meeting,we can have a live IRC update of actual discussions of the meeting so everyone can still have their say. I think once the Pycon idea is freezed, and announced officially, and various committes planned we can explore the smaller meeting/conference... On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Unless we get a little more concrete about the PyCon-lite idea that Ramakrishnan suggested, I think we should move forward with the September idea. Otherwise, this will degenerate into total talking away to glory. Some timelines and expense estimates would be a good start. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India
I will make it on 3rd Sunday! Let's get talking. Thoughtworks is fine On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Sriram Narayanan sriram...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: So, is May 3 fine with everyone? Can we get a venue? Thoughtworks will be available as a venue. Let me know and I'll make the arrangements -- Ram ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India
Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Thursday 30 April 2009 04:47:04 Vivek Khurana wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: If we actually spend time and energy *organising* a mini pycon, that will be the end of the real conference I think. I'm -1 for that. However, putting an extra session during a user group meeting to discuss the PyCon will be fruitful and will move us towards a conference. I'm +1 for this. What do you you guys think of the outline I sent out? IMO that is pure FUD... what exactly is FUD? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India
nice idea. This can give us an idea how many guys will turn iup for actual event Ramdas On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.comwrote: This is a very good idea. We have been talking of a Pycon but this gives a forum for people to come together to discuss the topics for a shorter time period. Certainly this would lead to ideas which can be used for a larger Pycon India. +1 -1 Meeting in june/july will be too late to plan for an event in september. Do we *have* an event in september ? Yes, we are talking about it but it hasn't materialized yet. At least a one day event is quite feasible in terms of the logistics. Isn't taking baby steps better than planning for the proverbial giant leap ? I definitely favor this approach, because of one thing - we can actually get this done. +1 definitely Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] What's the latest with Pycon India?
let's have an FTF at least to discuss conference details. When you are having a **real** conference, we must have a few **real** meetings for organizing them. Frankly there were too much of line noise during the last virtual meetings we had... There was little clarity on many things. On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: I think we *should* have a F2F first. That should get us started. We can do IRC meetings/mails to work out the details but we need a *live* meeting to lay out the basics. I propose 25 or 26th (we can decide the venue later). Perhaps this can be a python user group meeting (which we had decided to hold once a month) with special focus on the conference.. -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] What's the latest with Pycon India?
Can we have an update on the status/interest levels? -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] What's the latest with Pycon India?
I am all for doing something small, but good Ramdas On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: From the general feeling, I think we should (as was suggested by some of the wiser folks on the first IRC meeting), keep it small. Shall we have a F2F on 26th or so? (25th is Python Bug day). -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python switches to Mercurial
Its written in python, isn't it? 2009/3/31 (श्री) Sreekanth B gnuy...@gmail.com we have recently moved openbravo's code repo from svn and hg i should say learning curve is relatively easy compared to svn to git ;-) - sree On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy ramkr...@gmail.com wrote: Source :: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/102706 From: Guido van Rossum guido at python.org Subject: And the winner is... Newsgroups: gmane.comp.python.devel Date: 2009-03-30 14:58:38 GMT (16 hours and 8 minutes ago) Dear Python developers, The decision is made! I've selected a DVCS to use for Python. We're switching to Mercurial (Hg). The implementation and schedule is still up in the air -- I am hoping that we can switch before the summer. It's hard to explain my reasons for choosing -- like most language decisions (especially the difficult ones) it's mostly a matter of gut feelings. One thing I know is that it's better to decide now than to spend another year discussing the pros and cons. All that could be said has been said, pretty much, and my mind is made up. To me, the advantages of using *some* DVCS are obvious. At PyCon, Brett already announced that Git was no longer being considered -- while it has obviously many fans, it also provokes strong antipathies. So it was between Hg and Bzr (both of which happen to be implemented in Python FWIW). Based on a completely unscientific poll (basically whatever feedback I received in my personal inbox or on Twitter), Hg has a strong following among Python developers and few detractors, while few (except Canonical employees) seem to like Bzr. In addition, most timing experiments point towards Hg being faster than Bzr for most operations, and Hg is (again, subjectively) easier to learn for SVN users than Bzr. +1 for anything other than svn. I wonder if there were some real reasons for choosing hg over git, except perhaps to be different from the kernel folks ? -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/http://www.python.org/%7Eguido/ ) -- Ramakrishna Reddy GPG Key ID:31FF0090 Fingerprint = 18D7 3FC1 784B B57F C08F 32B9 4496 B2A1 31FF 0090 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- http://picasaweb.google.com/gnuyoga All things come through desire and every sincere prayer is answered ! ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Face to face meeting for Python conference
I am sorry! -1 for tomorrow from me personally. But I am looking forward to a meeting soon. Suggest 28th instead, if others are Ok. Btw, I think it'll be a nice idea if we can've separate threads on sub topics on the event, so that interested volunteers/parties can take things forward on those threads. say have separate threads on sponsorships, venue, content, promotion, logistics etc, and keep discussing. I must confess that at least for me the IRC discussion was a bit cluttered to follow exactly what people were trying to emphasise. A meeting of at least 8-10 of us is a must, to really see where we are . just an idea, we can have a live update, broadcast or commentary on key issues discussed/suggested just like cricinfo cricket commentary, so that those who cannot attend the meeting can be updated, and some real time opinions suggestions can also come in. It can be done on IRC itself, but other options such as Twitter can also be explored. Do advise On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Darkseid lorddae...@gmail.com wrote: That's fine dude, no problemo. Noufal Ibrahim wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Darkseid lorddae...@gmail.com wrote: So are we doing the meeting this weekend? No. Not till enough people chime in on this thread saying that they're coming. Sorry to bother you with this man and thanks. :) ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] A question for us...
Answer is $$$ is required for funding conferences. The organizers did not find anyone with $$$ who has some vested interest in Python. If they had you'd see Python there. I you look at sponsors of the conference, you can map them easily to talks/topics of interest. In India for every python developer you can find 5K java developers. As a company CEO will you look at Python or Java, when it is not the decision maker who'll write the code? Evangelism is the only answer. Sun had billions to promote Java, and they are(or were) reaping billions out of it. I don't know of any vendor with such vested interest in Python. Till then community (including you and me) need to do the bit, and reduce the gap even it's by inches On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Vishal vsapr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I received this invite to the Great Indian Developer summit. The four day long summit focuses on .NET, Java, Web and other things. I am wondering why there is nothing related to Python in this conference. Is corporate computing still only about .NET, Java and Web with ColdFusion/AIR etc. Given the fact that almost everything that is discussed here can be achieved in Python, what should be done to bring Python closer to the Corporate guys. What can be done about this at our end? I remember having read that Java became 'Java' not just because of the VM concept but also because of the aggressive marketing that SUN did for it. what you say? Thanks and best regards, Vishal Sapre -- Forwarded message -- From: Developer Summit mycampaig...@bmesrv2.com Date: Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:38 PM Subject: Drive Home a Tata Nano :: Look Up the GIDS 2009 Agenda Register Now! To: vsapr...@gmail.com http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Reply from David Goodger about PyCon
Looks Fine, Noufel, if you haven't already communicated, I think it will be good if you do write into PSF and complete all formalities. Let's get the modalities done, and announce at least a tentative date for the first meeting to form a committee to manage the event, and take things forward. Ramdas On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings people, I have pasted below the mail I received from David G. when I asked him about the conference. Do take a look. I didn't know that he was the directory of the PSF. :-} Thanks - Hi, I'm sure that you'll be welcome to use the PyCon name for a community conference in India. There are several other national or regional PyCons out there, and we encourage their proliferation. The only thing we want to avoid is competing events in the same region, so ask that you cooperate with all interested groups and operate in an open and inclusive manner. Please write to p...@python.org for official permission. Be sure to describe the type of conference -- the term PyCon is associated with a volunteer-run community conference. We can also offer subdomain registration; in.pycon.org could point to your server, or to a site on the server we're using for the US PyCon. Good luck! David Goodger PyCon 2009 Chair Director, Python Software Foundation -- ~noufal ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Open source India
Frankly, I dislike going this way. For one, it spreads energies and barcamp is definitely an unconference. I think the first PyCon India, if it ever happens should be a regular conference. Let us not confuse ourselves right from the start. Barcamp is barcamp, not pycamp, period. No I am just updating the back references for benefit of new members. I agree that a conference should be a conference. This years Pycon is a nine day event with tutorials and development sprints. I am OK even with a 2 day event, since its the first time around, with a third day for options such as sprints, BOFs or tutorials Ramdas Anand, Can you find out whether there are any obligations we may have for using Pycon name? Ramdas I -- -Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
