[BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
Hello, I have a finite 2 dimensional plane. I have a set of co-ordinates, which is basically the movement of an object. The co-ordinates are derived from a set of equations considering various factors. After a set of initial research and tryouts i *quickly *decided on using * pygame* to plot the co-ordinates on a 2D plane. Has any one in here implemented this sort of a program ? Which library did you use ? if possible could you explain why you chose the particular library. -- shiv ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Friday 04 June 2010 12:13:42 Shiv Shankar wrote: Has any one in here implemented this sort of a program ? Which library did you use ? if possible could you explain why you chose the particular library. just started the same thing yesterday! -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a finite 2 dimensional plane. I have a set of co-ordinates, which is basically the movement of an object. The co-ordinates are derived from a set of equations considering various factors. After a set of initial research and tryouts i *quickly *decided on using * pygame* to plot the co-ordinates on a 2D plane. PyGame is better if you want to animate rather than to plot. It has an animation loop inside which you can update sprites and things. If you want to see your object move as per your equations, it's pretty easy to do. I have an example program here which you can customise. http://github.com/nibrahim/Devious-machinations/blob/master/tutorials/positioning_sprites.py You'll have to change the update method of the Ball to set the x and y based on your equations rather than just x+=2, y+=0.5 which I've done. Has any one in here implemented this sort of a program ? Which library did you use ? if possible could you explain why you chose the particular library. If I wanted to plot, I'd write the program to dump out the X and Y coordinates in plain text and pipe that through Gnuplot after some massaging to do the plot. If you want to stuff the whole thing in Python, you simply use a Tkinter canvas. It has some simple primitives to draw points at x and y positions. Should be doable in 10 or 15 lines of code. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
2010/6/4 Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com: Hello, I have a finite 2 dimensional plane. I have a set of co-ordinates, which is basically the movement of an object. The co-ordinates are derived from a set of equations considering various factors. After a set of initial research and tryouts i *quickly *decided on using * pygame* to plot the co-ordinates on a 2D plane. Has any one in here implemented this sort of a program ? Which library did you use ? if possible could you explain why you chose the particular library. If that is not an animation, you can use Python Imaging Library to render the graph as an image. Here is a sample code for rendering sparklines. http://github.com/aaronsw/watchdog/blob/master/utils/simplegraphs.py Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a finite 2 dimensional plane. I have a set of co-ordinates, which is basically the movement of an object. The co-ordinates are derived from a set of equations considering various factors. After a set of initial research and tryouts i *quickly *decided on using * pygame* to plot the co-ordinates on a 2D plane. Wrong choice. When a software exists which is the perhaps the most powerful plotting program *ever* written, choosing a gaming library for this demonstrates poor choice, unless there is a specific reason for that - like for example, if you are already familiar with Pygame or SDL. I am talking about gnuplot here. The commands are pretty intuitive. It gives you an interactive prompt, like python. For example, here is how to plot a curve for the function (3*x*x - 8*x) over x range of -50:50 and y-range of -10:100 gnuplot plot [-30:30] [-10:500] (3*x*x - 8*x) You can also do 3-d plots. Here is the 3d plot of a complex function in 2d plane. gnuplot splot [-30:30] [-10:500] (3*x*x - 8*x + y*y) Has any one in here implemented this sort of a program ? Which library did you use ? if possible could you explain why you chose the particular library. Gnuplot is its own programming language, but if you want a Python interface, try gnuplot.py. http://gnuplot-py.sourceforge.net/ -- shiv ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
How about mathplotlib ? I haven't used it (yet but am planning to play with it for visualisation). What are the other good visualisation libraries for python. -- Vinayak On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a finite 2 dimensional plane. I have a set of co-ordinates, which is basically the movement of an object. The co-ordinates are derived from a set of equations considering various factors. After a set of initial research and tryouts i *quickly *decided on using * pygame* to plot the co-ordinates on a 2D plane. Wrong choice. When a software exists which is the perhaps the most powerful plotting program *ever* written, choosing a gaming library for this demonstrates poor choice, unless there is a specific reason for that - like for example, if you are already familiar with Pygame or SDL. I am talking about gnuplot here. The commands are pretty intuitive. It gives you an interactive prompt, like python. For example, here is how to plot a curve for the function (3*x*x - 8*x) over x range of -50:50 and y-range of -10:100 gnuplot plot [-30:30] [-10:500] (3*x*x - 8*x) You can also do 3-d plots. Here is the 3d plot of a complex function in 2d plane. gnuplot splot [-30:30] [-10:500] (3*x*x - 8*x + y*y) Has any one in here implemented this sort of a program ? Which library did you use ? if possible could you explain why you chose the particular library. Gnuplot is its own programming language, but if you want a Python interface, try gnuplot.py. http://gnuplot-py.sourceforge.net/ -- shiv ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com wrote: How about mathplotlib ? I haven't used it (yet but am planning to play with it for visualisation). What are the other good visualisation libraries for python. You mean matplotlib. It is a Python library meant for plotting and not a separate application like gnuplot. I haven't used it yet, but I understand there is some initial learning involved. Not sure if it is amenable for a rookie. -- Vinayak On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a finite 2 dimensional plane. I have a set of co-ordinates, which is basically the movement of an object. The co-ordinates are derived from a set of equations considering various factors. After a set of initial research and tryouts i *quickly *decided on using * pygame* to plot the co-ordinates on a 2D plane. Wrong choice. When a software exists which is the perhaps the most powerful plotting program *ever* written, choosing a gaming library for this demonstrates poor choice, unless there is a specific reason for that - like for example, if you are already familiar with Pygame or SDL. I am talking about gnuplot here. The commands are pretty intuitive. It gives you an interactive prompt, like python. For example, here is how to plot a curve for the function (3*x*x - 8*x) over x range of -50:50 and y-range of -10:100 gnuplot plot [-30:30] [-10:500] (3*x*x - 8*x) You can also do 3-d plots. Here is the 3d plot of a complex function in 2d plane. gnuplot splot [-30:30] [-10:500] (3*x*x - 8*x + y*y) Has any one in here implemented this sort of a program ? Which library did you use ? if possible could you explain why you chose the particular library. Gnuplot is its own programming language, but if you want a Python interface, try gnuplot.py. http://gnuplot-py.sourceforge.net/ -- shiv ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
Wrong choice. When a software exists which is the perhaps the most powerful plotting program *ever* written, choosing a gaming library for this demonstrates poor choice, unless there is a specific reason for that - like for example, if you are already familiar with Pygame or SDL. Its a strategical game anyways. But that no way justifies my choice for the library. Ill try out GNUplot. Does GNUPlot have something like py2app in pygame ? ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: Wrong choice. When a software exists which is the perhaps the most powerful plotting program *ever* written, choosing a gaming library for this demonstrates poor choice, unless there is a specific reason for that - like for example, if you are already familiar with Pygame or SDL. Its a strategical game anyways. But that no way justifies my choice for the library. Ill try out GNUplot. Does GNUPlot have something like py2app in pygame ? Well, I might have misunderstood you. I thought you wanted to plot the output of your program separately, not tied to your main application. Looks like you want the plotting to be done in the app. Then matplotlib is a better choice, since it is a library and can be used directly in code. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: [/..] Its a strategical game anyways. This changes things. What kind of app are you trying to make? -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: This changes things. What kind of app are you trying to make? War game, every one writes their own strategies to derive movement based on a intercommunication between objects. Objects are bots and one teams bot kills the others. Still in the drawing board. The user specified strategies control movement? If that's the case, you simply have to use the graphics library you're using for your game. I don't think you'll be able to use gnuplot/matplotlib/PIL etc. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Friday 04 June 2010 15:52:16 Shiv Shankar wrote: This changes things. What kind of app are you trying to make? War game, every one writes their own strategies to derive movement based on a intercommunication between objects. Objects are bots and one teams bot kills the others. Still in the drawing board. strange - this is what I am doing! -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Friday 04 June 2010 16:24:16 Shiv Shankar wrote: Kenneth - how are you communicating between nodes ? I have watch towers which watch on nodes and act as mutual communication points. havent reached that stage yet - what has happened is that my favourite game used to be xconq - but it no longer runs on modern systems and is not maintained, so I am developing a clone. I just started learning pygame yesterday for this purpose. Just a mite surprised that some one else is doing this too. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Friday 04 June 2010 16:26:57 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: strange - this is what I am doing! Wow - is game programming so popular now a days ? I never tried it myself. don't - it is addictive, your wife and kid will never see you again ;-) -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
I enjoy it quite a bit. The whole ode thing I've prepared for the pycon in Singapore is an attempt. With the libraries available, independant games are more feasible than ever. On 6/4/10, Anand Balachandran Pillai abpil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Friday 04 June 2010 15:52:16 Shiv Shankar wrote: This changes things. What kind of app are you trying to make? War game, every one writes their own strategies to derive movement based on a intercommunication between objects. Objects are bots and one teams bot kills the others. Still in the drawing board. strange - this is what I am doing! Wow - is game programming so popular now a days ? I never tried it myself. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- --Anand ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
Wow - is game programming so popular now a days ? I never tried it myself. When has game programing lost its popularity ? The whole ode thing I've prepared for the pycon in Singapore is an attempt. What was it ? ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: The whole ode thing I've prepared for the pycon in Singapore is an attempt. http://github.com/nibrahim/Devious-machinations Let me see how well it's received. If it's good, I'll present it here at the local BangPypers meetings if there's sufficient interest. It's a simple game that ties up a physics engine (ODE) and a graphics library (PyGame). A clone of the famous TIM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredible_Machine) -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Shiv Shankar fsla...@gmail.com wrote: The whole ode thing I've prepared for the pycon in Singapore is an attempt. http://github.com/nibrahim/Devious-machinations Let me see how well it's received. If it's good, I'll present it here at the local BangPypers meetings if there's sufficient interest. It's a simple game that ties up a physics engine (ODE) and a graphics library (PyGame). A clone of the famous TIM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredible_Machine) -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in _ I would love to see that . besides there is one more game engine called panda3D http://www.panda3d.org/ built by carniege mellon univ students , i liked it . __ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] 2D plotting libraries.
http://github.com/nibrahim/Devious-machinations Let me see how well it's received. If it's good, I'll present it here at the local BangPypers meetings if there's sufficient interest. It's a simple game that ties up a physics engine (ODE) and a graphics library (PyGame). A clone of the famous TIM Nice. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
