Re: [BangPypers] Zine for weblogging
On 25-Apr-09, at 12:08 AM, Pradeep Gowda wrote: Do you have a TODO List somewhere? (The bitbucket wiki maybe) so that interested parties can poke at the source code/contribute? One critical pending feature is the ability to upgrade tables automatically. Zine uses SQLAlchemy -- if anyone has the relevant SQLALchemy experience (I don't), please help out. The lack of this feature is holding up a bunch of other things that need database changes. Incidentally, my LiveJournal importer can now import posts and associated metadata (current mood, music). However, the metadata cannot be imported because it needs an additional table. I'll add comment import later this week. Comments have an entirely different API. Code here: http://bitbucket.org/jace/zine-plugins/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Zine for weblogging
On 09-04-27 03:07 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: One critical pending feature is the ability to upgrade tables automatically. Zine uses SQLAlchemy -- if anyone has the relevant SQLALchemy experience (I don't), please help out. Are you looking for RoR-style migrations? http://packages.python.org/sqlalchemy-migrate/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Zine for weblogging
2009/4/28 Sridhar Ratnakumar sridhar.ra...@gmail.com Are you looking for RoR-style migrations? http://packages.python.org/sqlalchemy-migrate/ [03:48am] jace: mitsuhiko: does this help? http://code.google.com/p/sqlalchemy-migrate/ [03:49am] mitsuhiko: jace: there are some problems with that, can explain that if you want tomorrow [03:49am] mitsuhiko: have to go now -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.seacrow.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Zine for weblogging
On 25-Apr-09, at 12:08 AM, Pradeep Gowda wrote: Do you have a TODO List somewhere? (The bitbucket wiki maybe) so that interested parties can poke at the source code/contribute? Ah yes, one other thing: Zine's test coverage could be a lot more comprehensive. This can be done independent of feature additions. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Zine for weblogging
Do you have a TODO List somewhere? (The bitbucket wiki maybe) so that interested parties can poke at the source code/contribute? +PG On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: Nice writeup, thank you. Roshan On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote: While seeking a weblog app to replace my ageing Plone+Quills installation, I came across Zine, a Python-based WordPress clone. http://zine.pocoo.org/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] Zine for weblogging
Hello All, While seeking a weblog app to replace my ageing Plone+Quills installation, I came across Zine, a Python-based WordPress clone. http://zine.pocoo.org/ By this point I had already considered and decided against WordPress, PyBlosxom and Yaki. Here's why Zine appealed: 1. It's an unabashed WordPress clone, created only because the author didn't like what he saw under the hood and felt it could be done better. There's no attempt to do the user-facing side differently. 2. Zine's creator, Armin Ronacher, already has a good track record with Pygments and Sphinx (which Python 2.6 uses for documentation). 3. It's surprisingly clean and easy to hack on. I found the WordPress importer unable to restore threading in comments, so I went to their IRC channel to discuss it. With their help, in barely an hour I learnt to use Mercurial (having no DVCS exposure before) and contributed a patch, which was a mere 2-3 lines change (and some more displaced). I spent the following two days making a bunch of patches, collected here: http://bitbucket.org/jace/zine-main/ So here's the pitch: 1. Zine is a great foundation, but it's still skeletal and needs much work. 2. Armin co are having trouble finding enough spare time from their other interests and student responsibilities. There were no updates for three months until I stepped in. 3. Open source projects only survive when there's a sizeable community of users and developers. Zine doesn't have it, but deserves it. 4. Ergo, if you're not very set on your blogging app, please give Zine a chance. Every one of us has limited time to contribute, but if there are enough of us, we can make it a sustained improvement effort. The IRC channel is #pocoo on irc.freenode.net (or irc://irc.freenode.net/ #pocoo if you'd rather click). I'm in it whenever online and will be glad to help. Armin is in there as mitsuhiko and is very helpful, as is dennda, another of the core developers. Best, Jace Postscript: Why the others were rejected: 1. WordPress: in just two days I had data import errors, MySQL charset encoding errors (WordPress declares a table as utf8 and stores text twice encoded in utf8, apparently because of a MySQL bug that requires switching from swedish to utf8 encoding on every single server connection). I couldn't get myself to trust it beyond that. Folks who've customised WordPress also talk of what a mess it is under the hood. WordPress has a huge community and a very nice UI, so not using it is also a big loss. 2. PyBlosxom: mature codebase but seems to be falling out of favour. PyBlosxom will also publish entries right out of the folder you created them in. This is hugely empowering, but in the long run I want to just write, and not be concerned with where I'm placing stuff. 3. Yaki: Rui Carmo's blog+wiki combination at the.taoofmac.com. I've long been a fan of his format, but Yaki is clearly a personal project for learning Python. The code needs much tightening, and there's still the matter of the user having to put blog entries in the right subfolder. -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.seacrow.com/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Zine for weblogging
Nice writeup, thank you. Roshan On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote: While seeking a weblog app to replace my ageing Plone+Quills installation, I came across Zine, a Python-based WordPress clone. http://zine.pocoo.org/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
