Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Roshan Mathewsrmath...@gmail.com wrote: [..] Something which Noufal seemed to pull out of thin air. Someone had to do it. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Shivaraj M Sshivraj...@gmail.com wrote: A small typo there super(UID,self).Wind(7) is super(ClassI,self).Wind(7) Well google's is doing definitely a strong attempt here. I guess it's metaprogramming than metaclassing. Class GoogleOS(OS): def __init__(self): self.official.languages = ['c++','java','python'] self.name = 'Chrome' def os(self,Browser(Webapps)): self.aim.compatibility = Gates().Wind(7).os.compatibility + Mac().os.compatibility self.patches = tobe decided where Gates is extended by Boost for seamless interoperability. I haven't got any more ideas on this. Well about the useful part of the search I think Data Snooping Bias should be avoidedl. I have a good feeling that Shivaraj is a spambot :P Regards Rajeev j Sebastian ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Shivaraj M Sshivraj...@gmail.com wrote: A small typo there But an important one. super(UID,self).Wind(7) is super(ClassI,self).Wind(7) Well google's is doing definitely a strong attempt here. I guess it's metaprogramming than metaclassing. Nonsense. It's simple method dispatching. Class GoogleOS(OS): def __init__(self): self.official.languages = ['c++','java','python'] self.name = 'Chrome' def os(self,Browser(Webapps)): self.aim.compatibility = Gates().Wind(7).os.compatibility + Mac().os.compatibility self.patches = tobe decided where Gates is extended by Boost for seamless interoperability. Not really. You're reinstantiating Boost using the Gates provider which won't work in this context. I haven't got any more ideas on this. Why don't you try to converting Gates to a factory? That might help you out rather than the one way UIDs. Well about the useful part of the search I think Data Snooping Bias should be avoidedl. Don't knock it till you've tried it. I'm sure you'll get far with that query. Also try frobnicating the bogosphere. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
I think I just fell down the rabbit hole. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Noufal Ibrahimnou...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Shivaraj M Sshivraj...@gmail.com wrote: A small typo there But an important one. super(UID,self).Wind(7) is super(ClassI,self).Wind(7) Well google's is doing definitely a strong attempt here. I guess it's metaprogramming than metaclassing. Nonsense. It's simple method dispatching. Class GoogleOS(OS): def __init__(self): self.official.languages = ['c++','java','python'] self.name = 'Chrome' def os(self,Browser(Webapps)): self.aim.compatibility = Gates().Wind(7).os.compatibility + Mac().os.compatibility self.patches = tobe decided where Gates is extended by Boost for seamless interoperability. Not really. You're reinstantiating Boost using the Gates provider which won't work in this context. I haven't got any more ideas on this. Why don't you try to converting Gates to a factory? That might help you out rather than the one way UIDs. Well about the useful part of the search I think Data Snooping Bias should be avoidedl. Don't knock it till you've tried it. I'm sure you'll get far with that query. Also try frobnicating the bogosphere. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:26:17 +0530 Noufal Ibrahim nou...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Roshan Mathewsrmath...@gmail.com wrote: I think I just fell down the rabbit hole. The time has come the Walrus said to speak of many things! Of atoms, and stars, and nebulae, Of entropy, and genes! Regards, Gora ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
I think I just fell down the rabbit hole. I think BangPypers just got its own John Harrop. Regards, BG -- Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
I didn't call _you_ Jo[h]n Harrop, man :) I called the OP a troll because his question is pretty much meaningless and is causing unnecessary irritation. May be it was because of the way I quoted the mail. Sorry for the confusion :-p Regards, BG On 7/30/09, Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Baishampayan Ghoseb.gh...@gmail.com wrote: I think I just fell down the rabbit hole. I think BangPypers just got its own John Harrop. Jon, I think you mean (although there is a John Harrop in the Clojure community), in which case I'm guessing you're trying hard to say I'm trolling (like the JH in comp.lang.lisp) ... except I wasn't, I just wanted context. Something which Noufal seemed to pull out of thin air. Roshan ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers -- Sent from my mobile device Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
On Thursday 30 Jul 2009 9:31:40 am Baishampayan Ghose wrote: May be it was because of the way I quoted the mail. Sorry for the confusion :-p top posting almost invariably causes confusion - an excellent way of making sure no one knows what you are talking about -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Baishampayan Ghoseb.gh...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't call _you_ Jo[h]n Harrop, man :) I called the OP a troll because his question is pretty much meaningless and is causing unnecessary irritation. May be it was because of the way I quoted the mail. Sorry for the confusion :-p Ah, no biggie. Like KG says, I shouldn't have top posted. :) Roshan ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
May be it was because of the way I quoted the mail. Sorry for the confusion :-p top posting almost invariably causes confusion - an excellent way of making sure no one knows what you are talking about Hehe :) I for one merely wanted to add to Roshan's sentiment by drawing an analogy with the usual way in which Jon Harrop traumatises different mailing lists. Regards, BG -- Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Shivaraj M Sshivraj...@gmail.com wrote: Well,it's like a game. Mapping the names with real world objects-specially current affairs, should convey great deal of information for the abstraction to be realized. Still waiting for the metaclasses, if any. -- Do you have any URLs that describe what UID actually is ? googling doesnt return anything useful ... Regards Rajeev J Sebastian ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
We will have to wait for UID I guess.
In a ''real world scenario''
class ClassI(Gates):
def __init__():
super(UID,self).Wind(7)
friend void exchange(ClassI x, Gates y)
void exchange(A x, B y)
{
B.x = A.location.awards
A.x = B.location.banks.outsource
}
These classes extended from probably c++ or so (of whose patchy source is
closed) .
Now the issue is this class has also a friend in UID but can be extended by
python in real world.
class UID():
friend void A::show(ClassI x, UID y);
UID is meant to be in public domain of whose behaviour is unknown. Should be
available near future Py 3.0
Coming back to the question:
Can there be a metaclass in python which can change the behaviour of object
at creation stage by extending it and nullifying friend functions?
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Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
On 27-Jul-09, at 1:50 PM, Shivaraj M S wrote: [snip] Can there be a metaclass in python which can change the behaviour of object at creation stage by extending it and nullifying friend functions? (I must confess this is the only sentence in the email that I could comprehend...) If what you are looking for is a way to customize object creation, have a look at the __new__ class method. It is called before __init__, and can return _any_ object when the client code attempts to instantiate the class. In some cases I have dynamically generated a subclass of the class using type(), and returned a new instance of that. I think this is the kind of thing you are looking for. -Taj. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 02:50:39PM +0530, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: On 27-Jul-09, at 1:50 PM, Shivaraj M S wrote: [snip] Can there be a metaclass in python which can change the behaviour of object at creation stage by extending it and nullifying friend functions? (I must confess this is the only sentence in the email that I could comprehend...) Very true. Shivaraj: It is nearly incomprehensible as what you are trying to convey. If you are a beginning python programmer (but a good other language programmer), a couple of tutorials at www.python.org may help perhaps? -- Senthil Needs are a function of what other people have. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
