Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-06 Thread Marc Croteau
If you go to https://savannah.nongnu.org/git/?group=bbdb (where it
references the bbdb-git that contains V3, there is a reference to
browse the sources repository which) leads you to:
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/bbdb.git

Given the dates of the changes, it appears to be where V3 is being
developed.

Marc

* Leo  [2012-04-06 16:28:32 +0800]:

> On 2012-04-06 14:41 +0800, Sriram ET. wrote:
> > Is there a public view of Roland's tree available somewhere?
> 
> I have been pulling from git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git
> 
> Leo
> 
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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-06 Thread Leo
On 2012-04-06 14:41 +0800, Sriram ET. wrote:
> Is there a public view of Roland's tree available somewhere?

I have been pulling from git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git

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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-05 Thread Sam Steingold
> * Sriram ET.  [2012-04-06 11:30:39 +0500]:
>
> Given my intent to spend some time on this project, I am a bit lost as
> where to focus my energies - On the old but stable base of 2.36 (from
> sourceforge) or the V3 git repo on nongnu.org (git://
> git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git) or Barak's repo (
> https://github.com/barak/bbdb3) which is further removed and with more
> sweeping changes to the guts of the code base than the non-gnu
>
> It would be good if Roland or Barak give the community on the general
> direction in which we are headed, so at least we know what to expect when
> you get around to fixing things here.

indeed.

I suggest that you start with merging the existing repos and reviewing
the patches floating on the list (including some of mine).
When you have a "grand unified repo", declare yourself the primary bbdb3
maintainer.


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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-05 Thread Sriram ET.
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Leo  wrote:

As far as I know, there is only one effort to devel BBDB 3 namely from
> Roland. Barak's github repo is just a mirror.
>

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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-05 Thread Leo
On 2012-04-06 14:00 +0800, Sriram ET. wrote:
> or the V3 git repo on nongnu.org (git://
> git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git) or Barak's repo (
> https://github.com/barak/bbdb3) which is further removed and with more
> sweeping changes to the guts of the code base than the non-gnu

As far as I know, there is only one effort to devel BBDB 3 namely from
Roland. Barak's github repo is just a mirror.

I have been using BBDB 3 for quite a while now and feature-wise I have
not missed BBDB 2.36(devel). I think focus on BBDB 3 is preferred.

HTH,
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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-05 Thread Leo
On 2012-04-06 14:00 +0800, Sriram ET. wrote:
> or the V3 git repo on nongnu.org (git://
> git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git) or Barak's repo (
> https://github.com/barak/bbdb3) which is further removed and with more
> sweeping changes to the guts of the code base than the non-gnu

As far as I know, there is only one effort to devel BBDB 3 namely from
Roland. Barak's github repo is just a mirror.

I have been using BBDB 3 for quite a while now and feature-wise I have
not missed BBDB 2.36(devel). I think focus on BBDB 3 is preferred.

HTH,
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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-05 Thread Sriram ET.
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Sam Steingold  wrote:

>
> Moreover, Roland, the bbdb3 maintainer, has no time even for patch
> integration, so forget about the infrastructure.
> This is a sad state of affairs, although, not volunteering myself, I can
> hardly complain.


I have some time and energy to contribute to the cause here. But I find the
whole situation quite baffling, given the sweeping changes that have gone
into V3, effected by Roland and Barak including to the build system etc.
taking what was an ageing but working product and putting it through a
major overhaul.

Given my intent to spend some time on this project, I am a bit lost as
where to focus my energies - On the old but stable base of 2.36 (from
sourceforge) or the V3 git repo on nongnu.org (git://
git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git) or Barak's repo (
https://github.com/barak/bbdb3) which is further removed and with more
sweeping changes to the guts of the code base than the non-gnu

It would be good if Roland or Barak give the community on the general
direction in which we are headed, so at least we know what to expect when
you get around to fixing things here.

Cheers,
-Sriram
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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-05 Thread Sam Steingold
> * Carson Chittom  [2012-04-05 12:46:31 +]:
>
> Marc Croteau  writes:
>
>> I know that this doesn't answer your question.  I guess I have to ask
>> who all is keeping the bbdb.sourceforge.net site up to date?
>
> My understanding, based on previous posts to this list is that
> *nobody* is keeping the Sourceforge page up to date, since nobody has
> access to it.

Moreover, Roland, the bbdb3 maintainer, has no time even for patch
integration, so forget about the infrastructure.
This is a sad state of affairs, although, not volunteering myself, I can
hardly complain.

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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-05 Thread Carson Chittom
Marc Croteau  writes:

> I know that this doesn't answer your question.  I guess I have to ask
> who all is keeping the bbdb.sourceforge.net site up to date?

My understanding, based on previous posts to this list is that *nobody*
is keeping the Sourceforge page up to date, since nobody has access to
it.


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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-05 Thread Marc Croteau
I agree that there is no mention of BBDB V3 on the bbdb sourceforge.
The project page seems to be with
https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/bbdb/ 
The source code comes through via: git clone 
git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git

There are a fair number of posts at the bbdb.sourceforge.net site for BBDB
V3 (some 79 of them) so the V3 discussions seem to be underway there.

I know that this doesn't answer your question.  I guess I have to ask
who all is keeping the bbdb.sourceforge.net site up to date?

Marc


* Sriram ET.  [2012-04-05 11:06:03 +0530]:

> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Marc Croteau  wrote:
> 
> > The "install" file of the BBDB V3 git download requests that bugs,
> > comments etc be submitted to the bbdb-info mailing list. See below:
> >
> 
> It does not answer my question (if that was even the intention :-0) The
> sourceforge BBDB page is the top hit on Google for BBDB. And on that page
> there is no mention of the more recent BBDB V3. So my point is people may
> not even come to know about V3 from a simple google search. I suggest we
> take down the sourceforge site or at least link to the BBDBv3 page from
> there. That's all.
> 
> -Sriram

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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-05 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
On Thu, Apr 05 2012, Sriram ET. wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Marc Croteau 
> wrote:
>
> The "install" file of the BBDB V3 git download requests that
> bugs,
> comments etc be submitted to the bbdb-info mailing list. See
> below:
>
>
> It does not answer my question (if that was even the intention :-0)
> The sourceforge BBDB page is the top hit on Google for BBDB. And on
> that page there is no mention of the more recent BBDB V3. So my point
> is people may not even come to know about V3 from a simple google
> search. I suggest we take down the sourceforge site or at least link
> to the BBDBv3 page from there. That's all.

From previous posts to this list, it seems that the people currently
maintaining BBDB don't actually have access to that page!

Plz correct if wrong…

Eric


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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-04 Thread Sriram ET.
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Marc Croteau  wrote:

> The "install" file of the BBDB V3 git download requests that bugs,
> comments etc be submitted to the bbdb-info mailing list. See below:
>

It does not answer my question (if that was even the intention :-0) The
sourceforge BBDB page is the top hit on Google for BBDB. And on that page
there is no mention of the more recent BBDB V3. So my point is people may
not even come to know about V3 from a simple google search. I suggest we
take down the sourceforge site or at least link to the BBDBv3 page from
there. That's all.

-Sriram


> * Sriram ET.  [2012-04-04 20:15:10 +0530]:
>
> > Oh my... after reading a recent message on this list I realized there is
> a
> > version BBDB v3 out there... and it's not linked to on the 'main'
> > sourceforge page (http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/) which is still the first
> > result on a google search for BBDB!
> >
> > Does anyone have access to that page so there can atleast be a redirect
> to
> > the nongnu.org page where BBDB v3.0 is available?
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Re: Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-04 Thread Marc Croteau
The "install" file of the BBDB V3 git download requests that bugs,
comments etc be submitted to the bbdb-info mailing list. See below:
===

For information on configuration and setup of BBDB's lisp code,
see the BBDB info manual. (M-x bbdb, and press 'h' in BBDB.)

Questions, comments, suggestions, and bug reports may be directed to
the BBDB mailing list at bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net.
To subscribe, send mail to bbdb-info-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net,
with 'subscribe' as the subject.

==

Copyright (C) 2011 Roland Winkler 

Regards,
Marc

* Sriram ET.  [2012-04-04 20:15:10 +0530]:

> Oh my... after reading a recent message on this list I realized there is a
> version BBDB v3 out there... and it's not linked to on the 'main'
> sourceforge page (http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/) which is still the first
> result on a google search for BBDB!
> 
> Does anyone have access to that page so there can atleast be a redirect to
> the nongnu.org page where BBDB v3.0 is available?

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Sourceforge Page!

2012-04-04 Thread Sriram ET.
Oh my... after reading a recent message on this list I realized there is a
version BBDB v3 out there... and it's not linked to on the 'main'
sourceforge page (http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/) which is still the first
result on a google search for BBDB!

Does anyone have access to that page so there can atleast be a redirect to
the nongnu.org page where BBDB v3.0 is available?
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