Re: What about BBEdit attracts you to the program over others?

[blinde]

one last thing i don't think anyone has mentioned: what you get for how 
little you have to pay.   8-)








On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 6:02:29 AM UTC-8, Cerulean wrote:
>
> I am just curious why someone may decide to choose BBEdit over other 
> programs, what draws does it have that others don't?
>
> Thanks for your answers!
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Re: What about BBEdit attracts you to the program over others?

[blinde]

i'm a web developer, building sites with php and mysql (for the most part). 
although i don't use all of bbedit's functionality it's the ultimate power 
tool for what i (and apparently many others) do.

the developers have always been incredibly responsive, supportive, 
proactive and consistently laugh with me rather than at me when i haven't 
RTFM... especially patrick.  8-)

the global search and replace with grep allows me to spend more time on the 
tennis court.

sftp, git and project support, applescriptability (and guys like chris 
stone), no crashes, small footprint with big impact... what's not to like?

i first met them (and got bbedit) at macworld, long ago in another 
galaxy the experience has been consistent and ever better.

bbedit is the reason i wake up every morning, look out my window, and see 
this:









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> programs, what draws does it have that others don't?
> Thanks for your answers!
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Re: Change CSS formatting

[blinde]

kathy -

the simplest answer to your question is 'no, not really... but kind of'. 
css files are text files... which means that you're a simple search and 
replace away from anything you want.

have you tried bbedit's css tools? how was what you got different from what 
you wanted?

'one particular style is most useful to me' may be a true statement, but is 
frustratingly unhelpful for anyone wanting to help. how are we supposed to 
know what that is or what you want to accomplish without an example?

if it's just that you like your css params indented, you could do that with 
a regex or command + } (or ]).

more info, please.






On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 4:51:04 PM UTC-7, Kathy Marks wrote:

 Under Markup  CSS is an option to format a css file.  Is there a way to 
 modify how BBedit formats CSS?  One particular format is most useful for me 
 to quickly work with CSS and it'd be wonderful if BBEdit could format css 
 styles that way for me.  Anyone know how to do this?

 Thanks!


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Re: Backspace in Open file by name

[blinde]

quit/restart finder? incense and food offering to the gods?

yosemite? previous os?

maintained through reboot?

btw, it works as expected for me...









On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:48:30 AM UTC-8, Alex Popescu wrote:

 Hi,

 I was wondering if anyone else is seeing this (mis)behavior/potential bug: 
 if I open Open File by Name dialog and I try to delete characters using 
 Backspace, it actually adds spaces.


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11.01...

[blinde]

you.guys.rock.

that's all,
bruce




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my bbedit goes to 11 - project file/folder listing tip

[blinde]

just discovered that toggling the open/close triangle of the top-level 
folder of a project in the 'view files' view CLOSES all open sub folders... 
very useful.
bruce


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10.5.6 (3342) loading too fast

[blinde]

kidding!!!   8-)

just wanted to say that every time i read the latest release notes, i just 
LOVE you guys.

thanks, as always, for bbedit... and taking care of us.

bruce





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Re: Settings for Compare Two Front Documents

[blinde]

christopher -

you are such a stud... the assistance you've provided me in this group and 
privately has been invaluable. i know i can look forward to learning 
something from your posts, and seek them out.

let me know if you get tired of appreciation and thanks... in the meantime, 
thank you again for your continued awesomeness.

bruce







On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:41:27 PM UTC-8, Christopher Stone wrote:

 On Feb 28, 2012, at 12:54, Gribnif wrote:

 I frequently use Compare Two Front Documents, rather than Find 
 Differences, because the latter requires that you choose the documents to 
 compare (and I often have over a hundred open at once!)

 The problem with CTFD is that there is no way to change the Ignore Spaces 
 settings, like there is for FD. Yes, I know that if I go into FD and change 
 things the way I want them and hit the Compare button, those settings will 
 stick for CTFD, but that is very inconvenient. It also seems to me that 
 this is confusing from a UI perspective, since the settings used by CTFD 
 are not associated with its menu entry.

 __

 Hey There,

 I think I agree with you on this one.

 Unlike in the 'sort lines' command vs the 'sort lines' dialog you cannot 
 open the 'find differences' dialog, change settings, dismiss the dialog, 
 and have those new settings work for 'compare front two documents'.

 Does anyone know of a way around this? I've tried various modifier key 
 combinations, and can't get CTFD to show the settings dialog.


 This is what the manual says:

 Performs a Find Differences on the two frontmost text documents, using 
 the same settings currently active for the Find Differences command.

 I think you should contact support with a feature request.  Bare Bones 
 Software sup...@barebones.com javascript:

 In the meantime you can script it to your liking:

 try
 tell *application* BBEdit
 *compare* *window* 1 against *window* 2 options ¬
 {case sensitive:true, ignore curly quotes:true, ignore extra spaces:true, 
 ignore 
 leading spaces:true, ignore trailing spaces:true}
 end tell
 on error eMsg number eNum
 set {c, s} to {return, --}
 set e to s  c  Error:   eMsg  c  s  c  Error Number:   eNum  
 c  s
 *beep*
 *display dialog* e
 end try

 If you want more flexibility you can do something like this:

 set compOpts to {All Options: false, case sensitive:true, ignore 
 curly quotes:true, ignore extra spaces:true, ignore leading 
 spaces:true, ignore trailing spaces:true}

 tell *application* BBEdit


 tell me to set compOpts to *choose from list* compOpts ¬
 with title Compare Front Two Documents with prompt ¬
 Select Options default items (*items* 2 thru -1 of compOpts) ¬
 multiple selections allowed true ¬
 with empty selection allowed


 end tell

 Note that this script only demonstrates using choose-from for options and 
 doesn't flesh-out the logics of actually using the items returned.

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to project, or not to project - HOW is the question

[blinde]

gang -

i just went from 10.1.3 to 10.5

10.5 changes the way sites work. in 10.1.3 i just opened whichever client's 
files i wanted to work with, and could preview rendered php pages using my 
global development site.

in 10.5, as far as i can tell, sites are project-specific. in other words, 
the only way i can preview a properly rendered php page is to make a 
project for that client, and work with the project by double-clicking on 
the project file which will then show me all of the files in their folder 
(essentially a duplicate of the htdocs or public_html folder on their 
server).

i'm fine doing that (even though i now have to create separate projects for 
some 70+ active websites)...

here's my question:

can one of you brainiacs suggest a way i might script/automate STEP 3 of 
the following:

   1. go to my Sites folder
   2. click on a client folder to see the files therein (i'm in column view)
   3. double-click on the file i want to work with and have it look to see 
if there is a project file... if there is, open the file in the project... 
which gives me sites and all kinds of other project goodness

something applescript? automator?

thanks,
bruce


p.s.: if there's a way to have one overall dev site that will run any and 
all loose files through the one php engine, that would be workable, as 
well. thx.





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Re: Web hosting recommendations

[blinde]

i almost just moved all of my accounts (personal + client = 100+) to 
bluehost, until i stumbled upon bluehostsucks.com

they apparently come down hard on any script that uses more than 10% of the 
cpu its on, by killing the account instead of just the script.

there are a number of other problems cited, all of which made me very 
nervous.

if you're interested in a vps account, i'm finding eboundhost (outside of 
chicago) a most excellent option... fast, responsive service, very 
competitive pricing.

just sayin'

thanks,
bruce





On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 6:51:41 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 I've been using BlueHost.com for years and the've been pretty good as 
 shared host provider. They don't have bandwidth limits, just throttle boxes 
 down to handle spikes in usage. 

 http://www.bluehost.com/

 $3.95/mo for extended contract
 the only gripe I've had is they are not on PHP 5.3 yet, still at 5.2

 -Eric


 On May 1, 2012, at 2:31 PM, bobembry wrote:

 I'm looking for a new web host. 

 Anybody have suggestions

 Thanks

 Bob

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Re: Automating HTML in BBedit with AppleScript

[blinde]

rather than script this, here's what i would do... old school, but quick 
and dirty:

1. drag the folder of original images onto an open/empty bbedit window. 
this will give you a list of all the images, no matter how many there are.

2. select all (command + a)

3. slam everything to the left (command + [ as many times as it takes)

4. run this saved grep pattern:

FIND: ^Photo(.+)orig\.jpg/string\\r
REPLACE: lt;a href=images_big/Photo\1orig.jpggt;lt;img 
src=images_thumbs/Photo\1prev.jpggt;lt;/agt;\\r

5. sorry that took so long!

i have a collection of saved grep patterns i use all the time... big time 
saver.

bruce








On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:21:59 AM UTC-7, blue-orange wrote:

 Hello, 

 I have the following task of creating a page with 1000 thumbnails 
 linked to larger files. 
 I want to automate the task and the automation part is an unfamiliar 
 territory for me. 

 I have two txt files containing 1000 thumbnail and original image 
 filenames that look like this: 

 original.txt: 
 Photo_19001_2010-11-18_13.45.59_orig.jpg 
 Photo_19002_2010-11-18_21.07.04_orig.jpg 
 Photo_19003_2010-11-19_10.48.19_orig.jpg 
 Photo_19004_2010-11-19_14.05.01_orig.jpg 
 Photo_19005_2010-11-19_14.05.05_orig.jpg 
 ... 

 preview.txt: 
 Photo_19001_2010-11-18_13.45.59_prev.jpg 
 Photo_19002_2010-11-18_21.07.04_prev.jpg 
 Photo_19003_2010-11-19_10.48.19_prev.jpg 
 Photo_19004_2010-11-19_14.05.01_prev.jpg 
 Photo_19005_2010-11-19_14.05.05_prev.jpg 
 ... 

 I have a HTML template: 
 a href=urlOriginalimg src=urlPreview/a 

 I want to replace the urlOriginal and urlPreview with the proper info 
 from the txt files. Repeat 999 times. 

 I understand this is not possible with BBEdit. 
 AppleScript to the rescue? 

 Where do I start? 


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Re: Automating HTML in BBedit with AppleScript

[blinde]

sorry - the replace string should be:

a href=images_big/Photo\1orig.jpgimg src=images_thumbs/Photo
\1prev.jpg/a\r

no html entities, and a line return at the end

not sure how html shows up in these posts... we'll see in a minute!







On Mar 31, 6:13 pm, blinde bruce.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 rather than script this, here's what i would do... old school, but quick
 and dirty:

 1. drag the folder of original images onto an open/empty bbedit window.
 this will give you a list of all the images, no matter how many there are.

 2. select all (command + a)

 3. slam everything to the left (command + [ as many times as it takes)

 4. run this saved grep pattern:

 FIND: ^Photo(.+)orig\.jpg/string\\r
 REPLACE: lt;a href=images_big/Photo\1orig.jpggt;lt;img
 src=images_thumbs/Photo\1prev.jpggt;lt;/agt;\\r

 5. sorry that took so long!

 i have a collection of saved grep patterns i use all the time... big time
 saver.

 bruce







 On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:21:59 AM UTC-7, blue-orange wrote:

  Hello,

  I have the following task of creating a page with 1000 thumbnails
  linked to larger files.
  I want to automate the task and the automation part is an unfamiliar
  territory for me.

  I have two txt files containing 1000 thumbnail and original image
  filenames that look like this:

  original.txt:
  Photo_19001_2010-11-18_13.45.59_orig.jpg
  Photo_19002_2010-11-18_21.07.04_orig.jpg
  Photo_19003_2010-11-19_10.48.19_orig.jpg
  Photo_19004_2010-11-19_14.05.01_orig.jpg
  Photo_19005_2010-11-19_14.05.05_orig.jpg
  ...

  preview.txt:
  Photo_19001_2010-11-18_13.45.59_prev.jpg
  Photo_19002_2010-11-18_21.07.04_prev.jpg
  Photo_19003_2010-11-19_10.48.19_prev.jpg
  Photo_19004_2010-11-19_14.05.01_prev.jpg
  Photo_19005_2010-11-19_14.05.05_prev.jpg
  ...

  I have a HTML template:
  a href=urlOriginalimg src=urlPreview/a

  I want to replace the urlOriginal and urlPreview with the proper info
  from the txt files. Repeat 999 times.

  I understand this is not possible with BBEdit.
  AppleScript to the rescue?

  Where do I start?

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Re: lame-o needs help with preview sites

[blinde]

chip -

it's REALLY annoying when reality doesn't back me up on what i want to
do!  8-)

i'll check out the alternative you mentioned, and post if it works
out.

thanks again for your help.

bruce










On Feb 6, 7:10 pm, Chip Warden chip.war...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Feb 6, 2012, at 8:28 PM, blinde wrote:

  i guess a better phrased question would be: when i drag and drop a
  file from the desktop to an open browser window, it shows as file:///
  Users/blinde/Desktop/index.php.

  i want it to go through localhost, so the php gets rendered.

  maybe some kind of .htaccess re-write trick? is there a way to 'trick'
  the browser into doing this, when 'Sites' and 'Desktop' are folders
  that exist at the same level in my home directory?

  help, mr. wizards!

 No. The browser only renders the document sent to it. PHP is a server side 
 processing language; on the Mac, the PHP interpreter runs through Apache. If 
 you drag and drop files to your browser, they are NOT being processed by the 
 Apache/PHP combination, and thus will not be rendered as HTML, but rather as 
 plain text files containing PHP code. There is no going through localhost 
 -- localhost is just the name that Apache responds to on your local machine.

 You might check out VirtualHostX (http://clickontyler.com/virtualhostx/). 
 This application provides a graphical front end to Apache's Virtual Host 
 functionality, and might help you do something similar to what you want to 
 do. As far as I know, however, you will NOT be able to drag and drop raw PHP 
 files to a web browser and have them render through Apache/PHP 
 automagically.

 Chip

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Re: BBEDIT Support folder is not created

[blinde]

spencer -

why are you asking about the scripts folder in a thread about multiple
dev environments and localhosts?

twice now i've logged in to see if anyone answered my question, and
thought that someone had replied... only to find out the posts had
nothing to do with this thread, or my question.

please start your own thread about your own topic, for best results
and to help keep threads on topic.

as for the manual saying there are scripts supplied by bbedit, the
manual i just downloaded says:

Scripts
[Global, Local]
BBEdit will automatically create this folder if it does not exist. The
Scripts folder may contain AppleScript files, Automator workflows,
text factories, and executable Unix files (scripts). Items placed in
this folder will appear in the Scripts menu (left), and you may place
items within subfolders (up to four levels deep) to organize them.
You may run these items from the Scripts menu, the floating Scripts
palette, or via assigned key equivalents. (You may use the Menus 
Shortcuts preference panel to assign a key equivalent to any item in
the Scripts menu.)
BBEdit runs such items by simply loading the item and calling it
directly, without providing any inputs. (Naturally, AppleScript
scripts and Automator actions may query BBEdit for more information,
and Unix scripts may obtain information from the environment variables
that BBEdit sets, while text factories will use their stored target
list if any.)
The first time you launch BBEdit 10, it will copy all of your existing
Unix scripts into this folder.
If you are upgrading from a version prior to 8.5, you must instead
manually move or copy over any customized scripts that you wish to
preserve. Note also that scripts written for use with such older
versions of BBEdit may no longer work. (Please see Chapters 13 and 14
for more details and tips on modifying your existing AppleScripts and
Unix filters  scripts.)

what manual are you looking at, and what specifically does it say to
make you think there are scripts provided with the app?

again, please continue the scripts folder discussion in a new thread.

thanks,
bruce






On Feb 6, 8:35 pm, spencerwhetst...@gmail.com
spencer.whetst...@gmail.com wrote:
 Spencer
 --
 Hoped to find the supplied scripts. Thanks.

 On Feb 6, 2012, at 21:41, Phil Dobbin phildob...@gmail.com wrote:







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  supplied by Bare Bones.

  Just go ahead  create one yourself. That'll do the job.

  Cheers,

    Phil...

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lame-o needs help with preview sites

[blinde]

guys -

i've got my environment set up so i can work in php using bbedit, and
then just hit control+command+p to preview any file i'm working on in
the browser of my choice. the php renders just fine... as long as the
file is anywhere under ~Sites.

i often end up with php files on my desktop, and want to be able to
open them in bbedit, make a quick tweak or not, and then preview as
above... with the php rendering just as if it were under ~Sites.

under 'setup', i currently have:

 site name: dev
 server url: localhost/
 path on server: ~blinde/
 default page: index.php
 addressing: automatic
 local site root: blinde-Sites
 use local preview server: yes

this works.

i made a copy, called dev 2, and tried variations on the 'path on
server' setting, to new avail.

i want to be able to preview correctly rendered php pages located
under ~Sites AND off my desktop.

how do i do this?

more info:

  HOSTS FILE
  7 127.0.0.1   localhost
  8 255.255.255.255 broadcasthost
  9 ::1 localhost
 10 fe80::1%lo0 localhost
 13 file:///Users/blinde/Sites/
 14 file:///Users/blinde/Desktop/


apache2/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf file
 28 VirtualHost *:80
 29 DocumentRoot /Users/blinde/Sites/
 30 ServerName localhost
 31 /VirtualHost
 32
 33 VirtualHost *:80
 34 DocumentRoot /Users/blinde/Desktop/
 35 ServerName localhost
 36 /VirtualHost

am i even mucking about in the right place?


again, i want to be able to preview correctly rendered php pages
located under ~Sites AND off my desktop. i definitely want to be able
to do this via bbedit, but also wouldn't mind being able to drag-and-
drop a php file from the desktop into an open browser window such that
the page gets rendered correctly (ok, that last one isn't a bbedit
thing...)

how do i do this?

idiot-proof instructions and/or pointers to applicable tutorials would
be appreciated!

thanks,
bruce










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Re: 9.6.3 -- zoom / unzoom -- remember both window sizes as default.

[blinde]

applescript?

i use two applescripts to toggle my bbedit (and other app) window
sizes and locations, depending on whether i am at my desk and plugged
into my big monitor, or mobile somewhere with just my laptop screen.

when i get back to my office and plug in, i run this:

tell application BBEdit to activate
tell application System Events
tell process BBEdit
repeat with x from 1 to (count windows)
set this_name to (name of window x) as text
--display dialog this_name
if this_name is not Utilities and this_name is not 
HTML Tools
and this_name is not Windows and this_name is not Entities and
this_name is not CSS and this_name is not Find and this_name is
not Multi-File Search and this_name is not BBEdit Preferences and
this_name is not System Events and this_name is not Clippings then
tell window x
set position to {11, 21}
set size to {1345, 1121}
end tell
end if
end repeat
tell menu bar 1
tell menu bar item Window
tell menu Window
tell menu item Workspace
tell menu Workspace
click menu item 
default
end tell
end tell
end tell
end tell
end tell
end tell
end tell


it resizes my windows (leaving room for dragthing) and selects the
right workspace.

there is a corresponding script with different settings for when i'm
mobile.

you could set a keyboard equivalent to each script, yes?



On Feb 4, 12:05 pm, lawlist keith.david.bershat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there a way to have OSX or BBedit remember both window sizes for
 zoom and unzoom with version 9.6.3?

 For example, I am writing a document full screen within BBedit.  Then
 I decide I need to type something into the document based upon what I
 am observing in another window or application, so I would unzoom my
 BBedit window to about 10 percent of the screen size and type what I
 need and then zoom it back up again to full screen size.  The problem
 is that I presently have to manually decrease the size of the window
 with the mouse and that window size preference is lost once I exit the
 document.  I would like two (2) defaults -- zoom would be 100% and
 unzoom would be 10%.

 Any ideas to have these two defaults survive closing the file and/or
 closing the application?

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Re: lame-o needs help with preview sites

[blinde]

jamie -

i appreciate the links, but i've already visited them and more.

i've got php running just fine... as long as a .php file is anywhere
in my Sites folder (where i keep separate folders for all my client
websites), and i preview it using LOCALHOST, all is well. the page
gets rendered, life is good.

i guess a better phrased question would be: when i drag and drop a
file from the desktop to an open browser window, it shows as file:///
Users/blinde/Desktop/index.php.

i want it to go through localhost, so the php gets rendered.

maybe some kind of .htaccess re-write trick? is there a way to 'trick'
the browser into doing this, when 'Sites' and 'Desktop' are folders
that exist at the same level in my home directory?

help, mr. wizards!












On Feb 6, 12:04 pm, jamiepeloquin jamiepeloq...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Bruce

 I am not sure if you are going to be able to get this to work as you
 expect…
 Havinghttp://localhostpoint to two directories is a bit of a
 conflict…

 Also, PHP files are not processed, by default, in Mac OS X, though
 php5 does ship with it.

 Here are some sites that might help you get to where you want to 
 go:http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6790568/how-do-you-get-php-working...http://akrabat.com/php/setting-up-php-mysql-on-os-x-10-7-lion/

 Also note that each `website` in BBEdit can only support one `Preview
 Server` at a time.

 Hope this gets you in the right direction,
 Jamie

 On Feb 4, 7:45 pm, blinde bruce.li...@gmail.com wrote:







  guys -

  i've got my environment set up so i can work in php using bbedit, and
  then just hit control+command+p to preview any file i'm working on in
  the browser of my choice. the php renders just fine... as long as the
  file is anywhere under ~Sites.

  i often end up with php files on my desktop, and want to be able to
  open them in bbedit, make a quick tweak or not, and then preview as
  above... with the php rendering just as if it were under ~Sites.

  under 'setup', i currently have:

       site name: dev
       server url: localhost/
       path on server: ~blinde/
       default page: index.php
       addressing: automatic
       local site root: blinde-Sites
       use local preview server: yes

  this works.

  i made a copy, called dev 2, and tried variations on the 'path on
  server' setting, to new avail.

  i want to be able to preview correctly rendered php pages located
  under ~Sites AND off my desktop.

  how do i do this?

  more info:

    HOSTS FILE
    7 127.0.0.1       localhost
    8 255.255.255.255 broadcasthost
    9 ::1             localhost
   10 fe80::1%lo0     localhost
   13 file:///Users/blinde/Sites/
   14 file:///Users/blinde/Desktop/

  apache2/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf file
   28 VirtualHost *:80
   29     DocumentRoot /Users/blinde/Sites/
   30     ServerName localhost
   31 /VirtualHost
   32
   33 VirtualHost *:80
   34     DocumentRoot /Users/blinde/Desktop/
   35     ServerName localhost
   36 /VirtualHost

  am i even mucking about in the right place?

  again, i want to be able to preview correctly rendered php pages
  located under ~Sites AND off my desktop. i definitely want to be able
  to do this via bbedit, but also wouldn't mind being able to drag-and-
  drop a php file from the desktop into an open browser window such that
  the page gets rendered correctly (ok, that last one isn't a bbedit
  thing...)

  how do i do this?

  idiot-proof instructions and/or pointers to applicable tutorials would
  be appreciated!

  thanks,
  bruce

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Re: Save document from template preview

[blinde]

i don't really use the feature, but can you preview the template in a
browser? or just in bbedit?

if the former, you could just 'save' or 'save as...' from there.

bruce









On Oct 1, 1:15 pm, Seth Dillingham s...@macrobyte.net wrote:
 On 9/29/2011, jawalsh said:

 I used the preview template feature quite a bit. I'd like to be able
 to save the full HTML documents somehow. That is, I create a text file
 with an HTML fragment. I preview it a template that is creating a
 virtual complete HTML document. I want to save that complete HTML doc
 as a new file. Is this possible? Can it be made so?

 I like this idea, too. It's a small step in a very interesting
 direction, where BBEdit starts to accept its role as a full,
 templated HTML publishing system. It's a small step, but I like it.

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Re: possible to set upper case tags as the default?

[blinde]

guys -

can't we all get along?  8-)

so... i've been trying to use lowercase tags... struggling to use
lowercase tags.

bbedit does 'help' by offering them as the default, but it's not what
i'm used to.

based on the discussions thus far: SHOULD i use all lowercase tags?
does it really matter? if so, WHY does it matter?

i'm not adverse to learning new things... more the pain of learning
new things!  8-)

looking forward to your comments,
thanks,
bruce




p.s.: yes, i'm an all lowercase poster and emailer... two sets of
standards, as my mother would say.
















On Oct 3, 3:00 pm, Watts Martin lay...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Oct 3, 2011, at 14:12 , LuKreme wrote:

  HTML 1.0, 2.0, 3.x, 4.x and 5 all are case-insensitive, though it is 
  possible that early specs required UPPER case tags (there certainly were a 
  lot of upper case tags back in the 90’s).

 As far as I know the uppercasing of tags was a convention borrowed from SGML. 
 But you're absolutely right about the case-insensitivity. I still know more 
 than one person who writes their HTML using exclusively uppercase, as they 
 insist that it makes it easier to separate tags from text -- and refuse to 
 use editors more capable than Notepad or TextEdit. They complained mightily 
 about XHTML's requirement for lowercase-only tags and will be relieved that 
 HTML5 backtracks from that, but they're still not down with all this crazy 
 new-fangled CSS stuff.

 - Watts

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Re: possible to set upper case tags as the default?

[blinde]

john

ok, so now I'm confused. if tags are supposed to be lower case, why
does bbedit offer a palette button to make tags upper case? also, the
HTML spec shows attributes as lower case, but all of their examples
have upper case tags

I don't mind learning something new... no matter how much it hurts!

please advise (although my question stands)

thx
bruce










On Sep 29, 12:19 pm, John Delacour johndelac...@gmail.com wrote:
 At 11:40 -0700 29/9/11, blinde wrote:

 actually, i use the utilities palette... but i'm looking for a setting
 so i don't have to do this manually... i would always get upper case
 tags... anyone else?

 If Barebones were ever to make it possible to have upper case tags
 inserted with their markup utilities, I'd suspect Rich had already
 been sedated.  Do you write your validated code in HTML 4.01 (1999)
 or HTML5?  If not then they're illegal.

 JD

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Re: possible to set upper case tags as the default?

[blinde]

brian

thank you. as usual, I am late to the game and dragged kicking and
screaming.  8-)

although I find uppercase tags easier to parse in long docs I have
heard and will obey

thanks for the info


bruce





On Sep 30, 5:36 am, Brian Frick brianfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Bruce,

 When I first started coding HTML in 1992, tags were uppercase. In fact, you 
 can read more here:

 http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_elements.asp

 As of HTML 4 (1999), the W3C (the group that dictates HTML standards) 
 recommended lowercase tags; HTML5 and XHTML require lowercase tags to 
 validate. There's nothing stopping you from using uppercase tags in HTML, but 
 if validation is needed, you shouldn't.

 I hope that clarifies.

 --
 Brian Frick

 On Sep 29, 2011, at 11:45 PM, blinde bruce.li...@gmail.com wrote:





  john

  ok, so now I'm confused. if tags are supposed to be lower case, why
  does bbedit offer a palette button to make tags upper case? also, the
  HTML spec shows attributes as lower case, but all of their examples
  have upper case tags

  I don't mind learning something new... no matter how much it hurts!

  please advise (although my question stands)

  thx
  bruce

  On Sep 29, 12:19 pm, John Delacour johndelac...@gmail.com wrote:
  At 11:40 -0700 29/9/11, blinde wrote:

  actually, i use the utilities palette... but i'm looking for a setting
  so i don't have to do this manually... i would always get upper case
  tags... anyone else?

  If Barebones were ever to make it possible to have upper case tags
  inserted with their markup utilities, I'd suspect Rich had already
  been sedated.  Do you write your validated code in HTML 4.01 (1999)
  or HTML5?  If not then they're illegal.

  JD

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'restore/select workspace' bug + workaround

[blinde]

release 3077 broke the ability to restore saved workspaces.

this has been a problem for me as i switch back and forth between my
home office with big monitor, and being on the road; manually
resetting palettes and windows has been a drag.

the problem has been reported and confirmed as a bug, and queued up
for fixing.

in the meantime, patrick woolsey has provided a work-around:

Due to this bug, BBEdit will not reposition any palettes which are
already visible when you choose a workspace; however, it can still
open and then position palettes. So, for example, if you have two
workspaces: Home and Away, you can Option-click any palette's close
box to close all open palettes, then choose the desired workspace,
e.g. Home, and BBEdit should open that workspace's palettes at their
saved locations; just repeat this process after moving to the other
location.

life is good again,
hope this helps others,
thanks again to patrick and team,
bruce




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Re: End of line not visible

[blinde]

just curious... why would you want (or need) an unbroken/unwrapped
line with  20,000 characters?
bruce






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 Hi,

 what option do i have to change to see the end of a line with more than
 20.000 characters?
 The BBEdit Windows stops scrolling right at about 20.000 characters.
 I don´t want to use soft wrap.

 BBEdit 10.0.1 / Mac OS X 10.7.1

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Re: BBEdit 10 - Anchor tag troubles

[blinde]

borgendorf -

you need to search around this group... this topic has been discussed
a lot.

things are different with 10... but some clever approaches have  been
suggested.

good luck,
blinde









On Sep 16, 8:34 am, Borgendorf ianju...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all. I'm new to the group, but I've been using BBEdit since the
 very beginning when it was promoted by sending out free t-shirts just
 for putting a made with BBEdit gif on your website. :)

 When I code HTML in BBEdit, the process for adding a URL anchor to
 some text used to be really simple. It was select the anchor text, hit
 the keystroke, paste in the URL from the clipboard. If the anchor text
 was a URL it was even simpler because BBEdit would magically detect it
 and fill it in for me. Then it was just select, keystroke, return.

 In version 10, the dialog that shows up makes me type in 'href' and
 won't auto-detect that I have a URL as my selection. I can see the
 potential for these in-line editors, but I feel like some basic
 functionality has been removed and I'm hoping it's just something I've
 missed in the preferences.

 Any ideas? Thanks. This sounds like a nice group of people.
 Take care.

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very cool feature... search in document's folder

[blinde]

99% of my searches are within client folders/sites, within my Sites
folder.

typically, a client emails a question or problem. i will, of course,
not have the slightest recollection of what i did or how i did it. i
will start researching my response by opening the main controller doc
that contains all of the site logic and functions, and searching
around.

i'll find a clue, and then want to search throughout the site for
where a variable or param is used in other places.

i emailed the guys with a feature idea/request to have multi-file
search automagically add the document's folder to the list of possible
targets, and patrick pointed out that search-search in document's
folder already exists. (doh!)

so... for multi-file searching, i've assigned command + shift + f to
'search in document's folder', rather than multi-file search, where i
had to manually select (or add) the desired target search folder.

if i need to search elsewhere, i just uncheck the one checked folder.

bbedt f-ing rocks.

bruce





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Re: image width/height markup missing after image button from HTML Tools palette. (?)

[blinde]

can you please articulate why one might prefer using inline styling
for image height and width, rather than old school height and width
attritbutes?

thanks!

bruce






On Sep 4, 10:13 am, Govinda govinda.webdnat...@gmail.com wrote:
  Are you using the current prerelease version, BBEdit 10.0.2? The video
  says that's a 10.0.2...it was first announced in one of the recent
  prerelease builds mentioned here on the list.

 Thanks Kerri,

 That must be the answer then.  So I'll just wait for 10.0.2 to become
 final and see what happens when i update to that. (I am using 10.0.1
 (3072) now).
 -Govinda

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3077 breaks 'save workspace'?

[blinde]

with build 3077 i am no longer able to save workspaces.

is anyone else experiencing this?

are there basic things to try?

thanks!

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Re: 3077 breaks 'save workspace'?

[blinde]

rich -

sorry... i did report it, but figured you guys were swamped when i
didn't hear back.

i forgot about your previous request, and was thinking that maybe the
list could come through with simple things i should be trying/
checking instead of whomping on y'all.

my bad. sorry.

bruce







On Aug 24, 10:13 am, Rich Siegel sie...@barebones.com wrote:
 On Wednesday, August 24, 2011, blinde bruce.li...@gmail.com wrote:
  with build 3077 i am no longer able to save workspaces.

  is anyone else experiencing this?

  are there basic things to try?
 On Monday, August 22, 2011, Rich Siegel sie...@barebones.com wrote:
  One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, PLEASE
  DO NOT REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking about whether
  others have seen the same problem. Instead, please send a bug report
  to supp...@barebones.com and we will deal with it there. This will
  help us keep the list discussion on topic and productive for all list
  members.

 Thanks,

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unhappy about 'algin'

[blinde]

i'm kind of tweaked that bbedit still puts 'algin' instead of 'align'
in some of my tags... especially when i'm typing quickly.

i thought this would have been fixed in 10.

bruce





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Re: unhappy about 'algin'

[blinde]

On Aug 19, 7:58 am, G. T. Stresen-Reuter tedmaster...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Have you submitted a bug report with detailed steps to reproduce the behavior 
 to supp...@barebones.com?
 It crosses my mind that you are allowing completion to use the system 
 dictionary, which could easily include the word algin. 
 See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alginic_acid
 You can disable this behavior by going to Preferences-Editing-Include 
 dictionary words in completion list and deselect it (remove the checkmark).
 Without a more detailed explanation of the behavior you are seeing (in what 
 context BBEdit is inserting algin vs. align) it is hard to say for sure what 
 you can do and whether or not it is a bug or an intended behavior.
 Ted Stresen-Reuter


ted -

the detailed steps to reproduce the bug are:

1. type 'algin' instead of 'align', because you're moving too fast
2. notice the error (or not)
3. blame others (in this case, bbedit 10)

the error code returned is: PEBCAK (problem exists between chair and
keyboard)

does this additional information help clarify the issue?

bruce


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Re: auto-save on preview?

[blinde]

chris -

'using terms from application BBEdit'?!?? 'end postmenuselect?!? how
do you know this stuff?!?!??!?  8-)

anyway, i use the keyboard shortcut to preview in (mostly) safari...
i.e., a browser instead of bbedit.

i created the script, but it didn't work at first. i looked at it
again, and thought ah ha... i need to change the 'if' clause to read
like the menu... i.e., 'Preview in Safari (5.1)'... which did not
work.

i went to the prefs to double-check what the keyboard shortcut thought
it was attached to, and prefs said only 'Preview'.

i changed the script name to Markup•Preview.scpt, changed the 'if'
check to look for just 'Preview', and life is fantastic.

you rock.

thank you for your help and expertise!

bruce



p.s.: i used to think that javascript was fragile voodoo, and
applescript was obscure voodoo. i still feel the same way about
applescript... when it works, it rocks... but it's the weirdest, most
inconsistent language i've even come across. i'm sure glad it makes
sense to you!





On Aug 12, 9:07 pm, Christopher Stone listmeis...@thestoneforge.com
wrote:
 On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:08, blinde wrote:

  I just don't have any room to breathe until into next week... but could 
  really use this functionality now. if anyone can forward how i would do 
  this in applescript, i'll take it from there... thanks.

 __

 Hey Bruce,

 Script Name: Markup•Preview in BBEdit.scpt

 Script Path: ~/Library/Application Support/BBEdit/Menu Scripts/Markup•Preview 
 in BBEdit.scpt

 This should save every time you use the keyboard shortcut or select the menu 
 item.

 Let me know if it doesn't do what you want.

 Props to Rich and Patrick; the example script in the manual wasn't hard to 
 figure out.

 --
 Best Regards,
 Chris

 --- 
 -
 using terms from application BBEdit

   on menuselect(menuName, itemName)
     if menuName = Markup and itemName = Preview in BBEdit then

       set weHandledCommand to true

       try

         tell document of text window 1 to save
         set weHandledCommand to false

       on error errMsg number errNum
         set sep to ==
         set e to sep  return  Error:   errMsg  return  sep  return ¬
            Error Number:   errNum  return  sep
         beep
         display dialog e

       end try
       return weHandledCommand
     end if
   end menuselect

   on postmenuselect(menuName, itemName)
     -- This is called after the application has processed the command.
   end postmenuselect

 end using terms from
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Re: auto-save on preview?

[blinde]

chris (and others) -

thanks for the tip/reminder... rtfm, pg. 280... got it!  8-)

so... the real problem is that i am slammed with multiple deadlines,
and having to relearn habits learned over a few years that would
normally help me get everything done. between 10 and life, i'm now
having a hard time keeping up.

i just don't have any room to breathe until into next week... but
could really use this functionality now. if anyone can forward how i
would do this in applescript, i'll take it from there... thanks.

also... the manual references documentShouldSave: called when the
application is trying to determine whether a
given document should be saved. does bbedit ask whether
documentShouldSave when previewing a document? is this a viable hook
for what i want to accomplish and if so, how would i use it?

thanks again,
bruce













On Aug 11, 8:52 pm, Christopher Stone listmeis...@thestoneforge.com
wrote:
 On Aug 11, 2011, at 09:59, blinde wrote:

  i'm trying not to bug the guys while they're dealing with larger issues... 
  but is auto-save on preview gone in 10?...If so, any simple workarounds?

 __

 Hey Bruce,

 I don't see a setting anywhere.  It appears that BBEdit is still attachable, 
 so one could attach an Applescript to the Preview menu item.

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auto-save on preview?

[blinde]

i'm trying not to bug the guys while they're dealing with larger
issues... but is auto-save on preview gone in 10?

if so, any simple workarounds?

if not... ?

thanks,
bruce


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confusement/question: default window size and 'arrange'

[blinde]

i wanted to express my appreciation to the team for grace under
pressure as they deal with a number of complex issues.

i think the issues drop (roughly) into two buckets: functionality and
usability. many of the posts here are about usability... this is
different, that is different, etc. some changes can be absorbed, and
some will always feel like losses... but bbedit still rocks.

i have a usability issue that drives me nuts... in a very small way. i
mentioned it to the guys, and patrick said they would look at it for a
future release. i wanted to find out if it bugs anyone else, and how
they deal with it.

i run bbedit with my main window on the left, and palettes on the
right... on a 30 monitor.

i set my default window to the exact size i want, and hit 'save
default project window'. i have 'show open documents' default set to
YES.

when i launch the app, the 'open documents' list on the left blows out
the window to the right from where i set it, under my palettes. in
other words, the window is now left-aligned where i set it, but the
'open documents' list blows out the right side the additional width of
the 'open documents' list.

if i select window-arrange, the main window goes right to where i set
it.

so... 'save default project window' doesn't appear to respect and/or
account for the additional width of the 'open documents' list, and yet
ARRANGE does.

i have now set a keyboard shortcut of command+9 to do window-
arrange... but kind of think i shouldn't have to do something
additional to set up my workspace every time i open the app.

here's my question, in a parts:

- is it reasonable that i would have to do something additional to
set up my workspace once i've 'save(d) default project window'? why
not have the app do a default 'arrange' when it launches... especially
if there's only one document being opened?

- shouldn't 'save default project window' notice whether 'show
open documents' is YES/NO, and act accordingly?

this is admittedly a minor issue... if it's just MY issue, i will keep
hitting command+9.

comments welcome,
thanks again to all for the app that helps me do what i do, and pay
the mortgage.
bruce




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Re: confusement/question: default window size and 'arrange'

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It's a bug, currently in the queue for review.


excellent. thanks.


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raggy fonts when srolling in from off-screen during click+drag

[blinde]

i've noticed raggy looking fonts when i:

   1. select a bunch of text... 2 lines, 20 lines, the entire
document... doesn't matter
   2. option-drag or just drag to the top or bottom of the visible
document, to start the document scrolling up or down to where i want
to drop the selection
   3. any text that was not visible when i made the initial selection
and is now scrolling into visibility looks ratty. please see example
at:

  http://www.5happy.com/images/raggy.gif

this happens regardless of font.

i am on a new macbook pro, running 10.6.8, bbedit 10.

MacBook Pro
  Model Identifier: MacBookPro8,2
  Processor Name:   Intel Core i7
  Processor Speed:  2.2 GHz
  Number of Processors: 1
  Total Number of Cores:4
  L2 Cache (per Core):  256 KB
  L3 Cache: 6 MB
  Memory:   8 GB
  Boot ROM Version: MBP81.0047.B0E
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Re: Sliding BBEdit 10 preferences

[blinde]

one more vote for having the preferences panel stay at whatever size
we size it to, and for less motion.
bruce






On Jul 28, 7:59 am, adkmoose adirondack.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1

 On Jul 27, 7:13 am, Christopher Stone listmeis...@thestoneforge.com
 wrote:







  On Jul 24, 2011, at 02:43, John Delacour wrote:

   At 00:29 -0700 24/07/2011, Shai wrote:
   The new preference window in BBEdit 10 is proving to be annoying with 
   its constant sliding up and down [...] you need to scroll to find the 
   category you're interested in.  Does anyone else feel the same?

   Yes, very much so.  I'm sure most BBEdit users are interested in function 
   and content and have an aversion to these distracting Appleisms.

  __

  Ditto in the strongest possible terms.

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can i run 9 and 10 at the same time?

[blinde]

gang -

there are aspects of 10 that are killing me. i'm wondering if i can
restore 9 from a backup drive and be able to run one or the other? i
am under some big deadlines and 10 is throwing off my rhythm.

thanks,
bruce



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these are not the grep patterns you are searching for...

[blinde]

every time i start to make headway with 10 i run into something...  8-
(

the latest was that my grep patterns were not showing up.

after much trial and error, i discovered that the Grep Patterns.xml
file in:

~/Library/Preferences/com.barebones.bbedit.PreferenceData

WAS the correct file... but that 10 now appears to be looking in:

~/Library/Application Support/BBEdit/Setup

which is fine, now that i've figured it out.

so... i'm guessing that Application Support is the correct location,
as newly added patterns survive removal of existing prefs.

installation glitch?
karma?
comments?

thanks,
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Re: Incorrect Icons after BBEdit 10.0 Upgrade

[blinde]

here's what i'm seeing:

   .py docs have the correct icon
   .txt docs have the correct icon
   .pl docs have the correct icon
   .growlRegDict docs have the correct icons

nothing else does.

using 'get info' to 'open with...' to another program correctly
switches all icons... but switching 'open with...' back to bbedit just
switches back to the results reported above.

why was this NOT an issue with 9, and now an issue with 10?

sigh.

bruce












On Jul 24, 5:43 pm, Charles Henderson c...@macdaddyo.com wrote:
 On Jul 24, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Chris Ryan wrote:

  I'm seeing the same incorrecticonseverywhere. And I don't think the
  creator code changes explain this: it's clearly related to BBEdit 10.
  I upgraded on 10.6.8 and it persists on 10.7.

 I agree, Chris. The icon can be correctly changed for 1 document at a time. 
 It's only when the Change All... function is attempted that alliconsconvert 
 to the Terminal icon. But TextWrangler works correctly, even using Change 
 All..., under the very same OS.

 What is BBEdit doing differently than TextWrangler?

 --Charles

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things about 10 that are driving me batty... help?

[blinde]

here are some random walls i keep slamming into with 10... any
suggestions, tips, and/or workarounds would be MOST welcome!
thanks,
bruce




=
it now takes twice as many clicks as it used to to add attributes to
images tags

old way:
click in height field, add value
and/or
click in width field, add value
and/or
click in border field, add value

in 10:
click in attribute name field, type first letter (i.e., 
'w'), tab
to or click in value field, add value
repeat 2 more times for height and border

i.e., 4 steps required instead of 2 for EACH item

how does this help me? yes, some of those tags are optional... 
but
best practices is still to include them, yes? and, even if not, MY
practice is to include them. is there not a compromise solution or
workaround?

yes, i can 'update document images' at any point... but this 
seems
like an added step. i REALLY miss being able to see... and the ability
to quickly edit multiple, common params.

=
i can't tell you how many times in the last many years i've clicked on
the 'preview' palette button to preview my page in the last chosen
browser... and yet now, i have to click and then select a browser
before i can see it. why the behavior change? why doesn't it just
preview in the last selected browser? since i could always click and
hold to select a different browser, why now opt for only one of the
two behaviours?

the manual says Some palette buttons are actually popup menus.
Clicking a popup menu button while holding down the Command key
invokes that menu’s last-selected menu option. but this does NOT work
for me.

yes, i can command+control+p to preview in the last browser i
previewed in... so why does the html palette button no longer provide
this functionality?

the manual also says Try pressing the Option key and watch how the
palette changes. By holding down Option as you click, you can force
many buttons that normally display a settings dialog to use their
previous settings instead... but NONE of my v10 palettes change.

=
i really want to adjust the palette sensitivity... i have to very
deliberately click on palette buttons to get them to work. if i click
too quickly, they do not respond until the next click. suggestions
welcome.

=
saved workspaces do NOT honor window width when toggling 'open
documents' on and off. if i open one document, i do NOT get the 'open
documents' listing on the left, even after trying 'defaults write
com.barebones.bbedit AutoShowFileList -bool YES' (recommended fix from
barebones... still doesn't work)

=
in all of the attribute editor windows that come up when clicking on
an html palette button, i can do everything i need to by clicking...
EXCEPT cancel. for that, i have to type, when to this point i've been
clicking. can't i have a 'cancel' button to click on?





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how to i disable the help keyboard shortcut near the backspace key?

[blinde]

gang -

it drives me crazy... i kicking out code, i hit the backspace key to
delete a typo, and suddenly i'm waiting while the help stuff comes
up... help i don't want, help i don't need, and help that doesn't help
me with my current question!   8-)

is there a way to accomplish this?

please let me know,
thanks,
bli...@5happy.com



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