Re: Coda 2 is nice, but no match for BBEdit

2012-07-20 Thread CapRoberts
Also given Coda 2 a try after using BBEdit for more than 10 years. As I do 
not like some of the changes they have made in version 10.
But a lot of things simply do not work in Coda or are not included. Such as 
balance tags. The BBEdit preview is nice but updates too often and I do not 
like the icons on top of the window that do not do anything, just take up 
screen space, also every time you hit preview you get a new window. 
Installed LifeReload instead, Safari even scrolls down to were you were 
before and you get the console etc. Fixed some other annoying version 10 
things and shortcoming by adding clippings for them. But do not understand 
why Barebones keeps taking good features away or replacing them with more 
complicated features. The ftp browser used to have a bookmarks selector 
which allowed to switch from one site to another by simply sleeting another 
bookmark. Think this was added in version 5 and then removed in version 9.1 
it now takes four clicks to do the same (instead of just one). Which as 
resulted in me no longer using the build in ftp browser.

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Re: Coda 2 is nice, but no match for BBEdit

2012-07-20 Thread Watts Martin
While I (almost) never use BBEdit's FTP capability, there's certainly a 
bookmark dropdown when you select Open from FTP/SFTP Server in version 
10.1.2.

Lawrence San mailto:lawrence...@gmail.com
July 20, 2012 10:58

I'm not sure what you mean by removed in version 9.1. I'm still
using BBEdit 9.6.3 and when I choose Open from FTP/SFTP Server... the
little dialog box that comes up has a bookmark dropdown right there,
and I can choose any of my FTP bookmarks in one click. This dropdown
menu is gone
in version 10?

CapRoberts mailto:p33...@gmail.com
July 19, 2012 22:52
Also given Coda 2 a try after using BBEdit for more than 10 years. As 
I do not like some of the changes they have made in version 10.
But a lot of things simply do not work in Coda or are not included. 
Such as balance tags. The BBEdit preview is nice but updates too often 
and I do not like the icons on top of the window that do not do 
anything, just take up screen space, also every time you hit preview 
you get a new window. Installed LifeReload instead, Safari even 
scrolls down to were you were before and you get the console etc. 
Fixed some other annoying version 10 things and shortcoming by adding 
clippings for them. But do not understand why Barebones keeps taking 
good features away or replacing them with more complicated features. 
The ftp browser used to have a bookmarks selector which allowed to 
switch from one site to another by simply sleeting another bookmark. 
Think this was added in version 5 and then removed in version 9.1 it 
now takes four clicks to do the same (instead of just one). Which as 
resulted in me no longer using the build in ftp browser.

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Martin Post mailto:martinpostber...@googlemail.com
May 24, 2012 4:20
This is not strictly BBEdit related, but may be relevant to some HTML 
 CSS coders here anyway.


There was a lot of excitement around Coda 2 during the last days, and 
I gave into the hype and bought it today from the App Store at the 
reduced price, although I maintain all my sites in BBEdit. I was 
curious enough to spend 40 EUR.


Long story short: It's a nice app. The GUI is beautiful, the reference 
docs are a welcome addition. But in terms of features - especially 
with regards to site management -, even Coda 2 doesn't hold a candle 
to BBEdit. Includes alone (which can be updated and fine-tuned using 
variables) are something I couldn't live/work without – Coda's 
snippets are not really an adequate replacement. Same goes for 
fine-tuned RegEx search/replace, collections, the markup editor, 
Process Lines containing etc. I would love to see a Transmit-style 
Sync site feature in BBEdit, but that's about the only feature I 
really need a third-party app for.


I guess I will use Coda here and there for a small project, but for 
everything else, I'll stick with BBEdit.


(All this is not supposed to badmouth a competitor, but it might save 
some people some money.)

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Re: Coda 2 is nice, but no match for BBEdit

2012-07-20 Thread Miers David
It sounds to me like folks have things kitty wompus on this thread. Version 10 
has a dropdown called setup within which you set up sites and ftp. Version 9 
accessed this totally differently through the preferences menu which version 10 
no longer does. It's just UI changesit's in there.
On Jul 20, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Watts Martin wrote:

 While I (almost) never use BBEdit's FTP capability, there's certainly a 
 bookmark dropdown when you select Open from FTP/SFTP Server in version 10.1.2.

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Coda 2 is nice, but no match for BBEdit

2012-05-24 Thread Martin Post
This is not strictly BBEdit related, but may be relevant to some HTML  CSS 
coders here anyway.

There was a lot of excitement around Coda 2 during the last days, and I 
gave into the hype and bought it today from the App Store at the reduced 
price, although I maintain all my sites in BBEdit. I was curious enough to 
spend 40 EUR.

Long story short: It's a nice app. The GUI is beautiful, the reference docs 
are a welcome addition. But in terms of features - especially with regards 
to site management -, even Coda 2 doesn't hold a candle to BBEdit. Includes 
alone (which can be updated and fine-tuned using variables) are something I 
couldn't live/work without – Coda's snippets are not really an adequate 
replacement. Same goes for fine-tuned RegEx search/replace, collections, 
the markup editor, Process Lines containing etc. I would love to see a 
Transmit-style Sync site feature in BBEdit, but that's about the only 
feature I really need a third-party app for.

I guess I will use Coda here and there for a small project, but for 
everything else, I'll stick with BBEdit.

(All this is not supposed to badmouth a competitor, but it might save some 
people some money.)

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Re: Coda 2 is nice, but no match for BBEdit

2012-05-24 Thread Lee Hinde
On May 24, 2012, at 4:20 AM, Martin Post wrote:

 This is not strictly BBEdit related, but may be relevant to some HTML  CSS 
 coders here anyway.
 
 There was a lot of excitement around Coda 2 during the last days, and I gave 
 into the hype and bought it today from the App Store at the reduced price, 
 although I maintain all my sites in BBEdit. I was curious enough to spend 40 
 EUR.
 
 Long story short: It's a nice app. The GUI is beautiful, the reference docs 
 are a welcome addition. But in terms of features - especially with regards to 
 site management -, even Coda 2 doesn't hold a candle to BBEdit. Includes 
 alone (which can be updated and fine-tuned using variables) are something I 
 couldn't live/work without – Coda's snippets are not really an adequate 
 replacement. Same goes for fine-tuned RegEx search/replace, collections, the 
 markup editor, Process Lines containing etc. I would love to see a 
 Transmit-style Sync site feature in BBEdit, but that's about the only 
 feature I really need a third-party app for.
 
 I guess I will use Coda here and there for a small project, but for 
 everything else, I'll stick with BBEdit.
 
 (All this is not supposed to badmouth a competitor, but it might save some 
 people some money.)
 
 -- 

I got confused and bought Capo instead.


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Re: Coda 2 is nice, but no match for BBEdit

2012-05-24 Thread Steve Nicholson
On May 24, 2012, at 8:32 AM, Lee Hinde wrote:

 I got confused and bought Capo instead.

Well Capo is undeniably better than BBEdit at helping you learn guitar solos.

-Steve

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