Re: compare docx files?

[Bruce Van Allen]

On 7/26/17 at 10:45 PM, kbr...@mac.com (Ken Brown) wrote:

In my case I just wanted to know if the two files were exactly the
same or not. It didn't seem at the time that Word's compare file
function was telling me what I wanted to know and I needed a second,
trusted opinion from BBEdit.


"Exactly the same" can mean different things, of course. For 
future reference: if you were strictly concerned with the text 
content - i.e., not the editing history, "properties" (author 
etc), and more complex formatting aspects, then you COULD use 
BBEdit as others have suggested along the lines of exporting the 
.docx files to .rtf or plain text. Those formats, as well as PDF 
for that matter, are text-based files that BBEdit can open and 
compare to others.


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Re: compare docx files?

[Gregory Shenaut]

For a binary comparison, use « cmp file1.docx file2.docx ».
For a content comparison, within Word use Tools > Track Changes > Compare 
Documents.

I have no idea how you'd use BBEdit for this.

Greg Shenaut

> On Jul 26, 2017, at 16:05 , Ken G. Brown  wrote:
> 
> macOS 10.12.6
> 
> I’m trying to use BBedit 11.6.7 (397078)  (06/15/2017) to compare two docx 
> files just to find if they are identical. 
> I open them and place as the two front windows but when I compare the two 
> front windows, it selects other windows.
> 
> The find differences tool will not open the files from disk.
> 
> How can I compare the two files?
> 
> Thx for any tips.
>   Ken G. Brown 
> 
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Re: compare docx files?

[Jeffrey Jones]

On Jul 26, 2017, at 10:26 PM, David Brostoff  wrote:
> 
> When I try that the .docx files are displayed as gibberish. (Maybe they have 
> to be in .txt or .rtf format?)

That's because, as I said earlier, they are ZIP files.

Depending on what it is that you consider a "difference", comparing these 
binary files might not tell you what you want to know. The docx format is 
amazingly complicated, and differences that are invisible to you will 
nevertheless result in different binaries.

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Re: compare docx files?

[kbrown]

This worked, Thx.
   Ken

On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 4:12:54 PM UTC-7, flet...@cumuli.com wrote:
>
> If you open the Find Differences window you can drag two documents from 
> the Finder into the rounded rectangle targets on the right. 
>
> [fletcher] 
>
>
> > On Jul 26, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ken G. Brown  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > macOS 10.12.6 
> > 
> > I’m trying to use BBedit 11.6.7 (397078)  (06/15/2017) to compare two 
> docx files just to find if they are identical. 
> > I open them and place as the two front windows but when I compare the 
> two front windows, it selects other windows. 
> > 
> > The find differences tool will not open the files from disk. 
> > 
> > How can I compare the two files? 
> > 
> > Thx for any tips. 
> > Ken G. Brown 
> > 
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Re: compare docx files?

[kbrown]

This did the trick to tell me that the two docx files had different 
contents.
Of course the details were not useful but accomplished the goal.


On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 4:12:54 PM UTC-7, flet...@cumuli.com wrote:
>
> If you open the Find Differences window you can drag two documents from 
> the Finder into the rounded rectangle targets on the right. 
>
> [fletcher] 
>
>
> > On Jul 26, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ken G. Brown  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > macOS 10.12.6 
> > 
> > I’m trying to use BBedit 11.6.7 (397078)  (06/15/2017) to compare two 
> docx files just to find if they are identical. 
> > I open them and place as the two front windows but when I compare the 
> two front windows, it selects other windows. 
> > 
> > The find differences tool will not open the files from disk. 
> > 
> > How can I compare the two files? 
> > 
> > Thx for any tips. 
> > Ken G. Brown 
> > 
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Re: compare docx files?

[David Brostoff]

> On Jul 26, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Fletcher Sandbeck  wrote:
> 
> If you open the Find Differences window you can drag two documents from the 
> Finder into the rounded rectangle targets on the right.

When I try that the .docx files are displayed as gibberish. (Maybe they have to 
be in .txt or .rtf format?)

Thank you, 

David

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Re: compare docx files?

[kbrown]

Good idea, thx.
   Ken

On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 5:47:16 PM UTC-7, herbs wrote:
>
>
> > On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:43 PM, Steve deRosier  > wrote: 
> > 
> > On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Ken G. Brown  
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I’m trying to use BBedit 11.6.7 (397078)  (06/15/2017) to compare two 
> docx 
> >> files just to find if they are identical. 
> > 
> > Hi Ken, 
> > 
> > As already mentioned, BBEdit is not the right tool for comparing two 
> > docx files. I'd suggest Araxis Merge. It is capable of comparing the 
> > text contents of two documents if they're of common formats. 
> > 
> > https://www.araxis.com/merge/index.en#OfficeFormats 
> > 
> > I hope that helps. 
> > 
> > - Steve 
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> Howdy, 
>
> As a first check try an md5 sum of each file. If the md5 sums are 
> identical the files are probably identical. On the Mac simply run 
>
> md5 file 
>
> to get the md5 sum. 
>
> PS: It's not a guarantee but it's a strong possibility. 
>
> Good Luck, 
>
> Herb Schulz 
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com) 
>
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Re: compare docx files?

[kbrown]

I'll have a look, thx.
   Ken

On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 5:43:22 PM UTC-7, Steve wrote:
>
> On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Ken G. Brown  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > I’m trying to use BBedit 11.6.7 (397078)  (06/15/2017) to compare two 
> docx 
> > files just to find if they are identical. 
>
> Hi Ken, 
>
> As already mentioned, BBEdit is not the right tool for comparing two 
> docx files. I'd suggest Araxis Merge. It is capable of comparing the 
> text contents of two documents if they're of common formats. 
>
> https://www.araxis.com/merge/index.en#OfficeFormats 
>
> I hope that helps. 
>
> - Steve 
>

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Re: compare docx files?

[kbrown]

Word does have a compare but I wasn't seeing what I expected and trusted 
BBEdit more to attempt a simple compare.  
   Ken

On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 5:44:32 PM UTC-7, Jean-Christophe Helary 
wrote:
>
>
> > On Jul 27, 2017, at 9:31, Jeffrey Jones  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Of course BBEdit can open a ZIP file. You can browse the contents of a 
> docx using BBEdit's Disk Browser feature. I don't think you can compare 
> them, or I wouldn't know how. Or why you would use BBEdit to do so. 
>
> I'm pretty sure Word has a compare function. 
>
> Jean-Christophe 

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Re: compare docx files?

[Herbert Schulz]

> On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:43 PM, Steve deRosier  wrote:
> 
> On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Ken G. Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’m trying to use BBedit 11.6.7 (397078)  (06/15/2017) to compare two docx
>> files just to find if they are identical.
> 
> Hi Ken,
> 
> As already mentioned, BBEdit is not the right tool for comparing two
> docx files. I'd suggest Araxis Merge. It is capable of comparing the
> text contents of two documents if they're of common formats.
> 
> https://www.araxis.com/merge/index.en#OfficeFormats
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> - Steve
> 
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Howdy,

As a first check try an md5 sum of each file. If the md5 sums are identical the 
files are probably identical. On the Mac simply run

md5 file

to get the md5 sum.

PS: It's not a guarantee but it's a strong possibility.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

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Re: compare docx files?

[Jean-Christophe Helary]

> On Jul 27, 2017, at 9:31, Jeffrey Jones  wrote:
> 
> Of course BBEdit can open a ZIP file. You can browse the contents of a docx 
> using BBEdit's Disk Browser feature. I don't think you can compare them, or I 
> wouldn't know how. Or why you would use BBEdit to do so.

I'm pretty sure Word has a compare function.

Jean-Christophe 

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Re: compare docx files?

[Steve deRosier]

On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Ken G. Brown  wrote:
>
>
> I’m trying to use BBedit 11.6.7 (397078)  (06/15/2017) to compare two docx
> files just to find if they are identical.

Hi Ken,

As already mentioned, BBEdit is not the right tool for comparing two
docx files. I'd suggest Araxis Merge. It is capable of comparing the
text contents of two documents if they're of common formats.

https://www.araxis.com/merge/index.en#OfficeFormats

I hope that helps.

- Steve

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Re: compare docx files?

[Jeffrey Jones]

On Jul 26, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Ken G. Brown  wrote:
> 
> I’m trying to use BBedit 11.6.7 (397078)  (06/15/2017) to compare two docx 
> files just to find if they are identical. 
> I open them and place as the two front windows but when I compare the two 
> front windows, it selects other windows.

A docx file is a ZIP archive containing a hierarchy of subfolders, containing 
many -- perhaps dozens -- of mostly XML files. Who knows what they all are. I 
don't know how you could compare that mess in BBEdit, except maybe to unzip 
them, and do a folder compare.

Of course BBEdit can open a ZIP file. You can browse the contents of a docx 
using BBEdit's Disk Browser feature. I don't think you can compare them, or I 
wouldn't know how. Or why you would use BBEdit to do so.


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Re: compare docx files?

[Fletcher Sandbeck]

If you open the Find Differences window you can drag two documents from the 
Finder into the rounded rectangle targets on the right.

[fletcher]


> On Jul 26, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Ken G. Brown  wrote:
> 
> macOS 10.12.6
> 
> I’m trying to use BBedit 11.6.7 (397078)  (06/15/2017) to compare two docx 
> files just to find if they are identical. 
> I open them and place as the two front windows but when I compare the two 
> front windows, it selects other windows.
> 
> The find differences tool will not open the files from disk.
> 
> How can I compare the two files?
> 
> Thx for any tips.
>   Ken G. Brown 
> 
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