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Title: FW: (no subject) TTJI&L L*L Markess -- Organization: When the Power of Love overcomes the Love of Power then we will know peace. Jimi Hendrix 1942-1970 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 11:56:59 -0600 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Who Are The Iraqis? > > Every decade or so, we should remind ourselves of who the Iraqis are: > > 1. Twelve-thousand years ago, they invented irrigated farming. > They got to be so good at it that, today, they can still produce > all the food they need even when "sanctions" are imposed. > > 2. They invented writing. > > 3. They figured out how to tell time. > > 4. They founded modern mathematics. > > 5. In the Code of Hammurabi, they invented the first legal system > that protects the weak, the widow and the orphan. > > 6. Five-thousand years ago, they had philosophers who attempted > to list every known thing in the world. > > 7. They were using Pythagoras' theorem 1,700 years before Pythagoras. > > 8. They invented artificial building materials, some kind of > pre-fab-crete stuff used to construct high-rise towers. > > 9. Ur, in southeast Iraq, is assumed to be the place we're all descended > from. > > 10. They were the first people to build cities and live in them. > > 11. For thousands of years, they wrote the greatest poetry, > history and "sagas" in the world. > > 12. Because they were great horse breeders, they invented > the cavalry in war. > > 13. The Iraq Museum in Baghdad contains some of the most > outstanding stone, metal and clay sculptures and inscriptions > created in the history of the world. Some of them are more than > 7,000 years old. > > 14. The first school for astronomers was established by Iraqis. > This is how the "wise men" got to be so wise. They knew how > to follow the star. > > 15. Beginning around 800 AD, the Iraqis founded universities > that imported teachers from throughout the civilized world > to teach medicine, mathematics, philosophy, theology, > literature and poetry. > > 16. For the first 1,200 years of its existence, Baghdad > was regarded as one of the most refined, civilized and > festive cities in the world. > > 17. Abraham, the father of Israel, was from Iraq. > > 18. Abraham, the father of Islam, was from Iraq. > > 19. Abraham, the father and "model" of Christian faith, was from Iraq. > > 20. Iraq , is the second largest reserve of oil. > > 21. Before 1980, Iraq had the largest number of date palm trees > in the world. > > 22. Iraqi wheat, rice, and meat are considered among the finest > types in the world. > > 23. Iraq, has the biggest soft water/population ratio in the > world, seven rivers. > > 24. Iraqis, once had the highest percent of highly educated people. > > 25. Iraq, is one of the world's richest territories in historical > sites and holy shrines.
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Saskatchewan Organic Directorate Box 310 Rockglen, SK S0H 3R0 Phone: 306-476-2089 Fax: 306-476-2146 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.saskorganic.com February 28, 2003 Adrian C Measner President and Chief Executive Officer Canadian Wheat Board 423 Main Street P.O. Box 816, Stn. Main Winnipeg, Manitoba R3C 2P5 Dear Mr. Measner, In response to your letter of February 5, 2003, the Saskatchewan Organic Directorate (SOD) does not support any initiative that will compromise the future ability of farmers to grow non-GMO wheat and that will compromise the ability for people to choose food that is not genetically engineered. In your letter you ask for support for the document which outlines the conditions necessary to pave the way for the introduction of GM1 wheat. The document, ФConditions for the Introduction of Genetically Modified WheatХ'2, was developed by the Canadian Wheat Board (CWB) along with representatives from the Canadian Seed Growers Association, the Western Canadian Wheat Growers Association, the Canadian Federation of Agriculture, the Western Elevator Association, the Inland Terminal Association, the Canadian National Millers Association, the Canadian Grain Commission, Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, Monsanto Canada, and a Farmer at Large. This group known as the ФCanadian Grain Industry Working Group on GM Wheat,Х does not represent the full spectrum of views held by farmers, and certainly not consumers of wheat products. Consumers after all, should be the final arbiters of any direction the food producing sector takes in regards to the introduction of GM wheat. The Saskatchewan Organic Directorate does not support the thrust of this document which we believe is fundamentally flawed in many of it's assumptions. As one example, it is faulty logic to say that the ability to meet requirements for non-GM wheat markets would depend in part on the establishment of an Тachievable tolerance level for GM wheatУ in non-GM wheat shipments. It is implied in this wily language that we must be prepared to accept some level of GM contamination. Presently Saskatchewan farmers are able to achieve a zero GM contamination level to supply our market. We in the SOD believe it is our right to continue to have that ability. Customers of organic wheat do not want their wheat contaminated by genetically modified varieties... period. Furthermore, SOD believes that anyone who contaminates the food system at whatever level, with GM crops, and compromises our ability to serve that market; that they be held liable. The Saskatchewan Organic Directorate believes there are no conditions under which GM wheat can be introduced, that will adequately protect the needs of customers of non-GM wheat. The segregation system alluded to in the document ФConditions for the Introduction of Genetically Modified WheatХ would be a morass of very expensive regulations that will be impossible to implement, and ultimately will fail. The result would be widespread GM contamination of the food system, and probably an end to the ability to farm organically. The stark fact of this threat to organic agriculture clearly shows the falsehood of the assumption in this document that there is some kind of cost/benefit analysis that would apply to all farmers. Your letter asks for confirmation from the Saskatchewan Organic Directorate that it believes the conditions developed in the document 'Condition for the Introduction of GM Wheat' are Тnecessary and sufficient to protect the interests of farmers and customersУ. Furthermore you state that these conditions outlined in the document should be incorporated formally into the regulatory process. 1 GM or genetically modified means living products derived from transgenic/recombinant DNA technologies 2 Conditions for the Introduction of Genetically Modified Wheat document on CWB website: www.cwb.ca In response, the Saskatchewan Organic Directorate states that adding the flawed principles of this document to an already flawed government regulatory system will not address the concerns and interests of organic farmers, nor those of our customers, about the introduction of GM wheat. Therefore the Saskatchewan Organic Directorate will not endorse the enclosed draft "sign on" letter to the Minister of Agriculture Lyle Vanclief, asking for regulatory change which incorporates the conditions contained in the document ФConditions for the Introduction of Genetically Modified WheatХ and more particularly the proposed regulatory market impact test as outlined in the supplementary document ФMarket Impact and the Potential Introduction of Genetically Modified WheatХ. Although the proposed regulatory market impact test goes part way to addressing legitimate concerns, the suggestion that this additional criteria ТЙneed not alter the current safety approval criteria nor the criteria currently assessed by registration recommending committees.У is unacceptable based on our determination of
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Gday everyone, I just wanted to let you all know that Lindy (my wife) and I have started our new business. Well, were trying to get it off the ground at the moment, its a little bit controversial, and hard to find open minded people. Anyway, I wanted to share our business Mission statement with you all, because its kind of like our shared personal passion statement (which makes it not personal, anyway). Our mission at Living the Good Life is To educate and inform people about personal health, and to provide products and services that will enable and empower them to take control of their health and lifestyle in order to be all they were created to be. Some of you may know (red group particularly), that a few years ago my mum had cancer of the liver, and was told basically to go home and die. She didnt give up, and through implementing the suppressed information about fighting cancer naturally (what the doctors wont admit, $$$), was able to rid herself of cancer. Today she is cancer free. This was a full-on experience for me, as you can probably imagine, and I then decided that I wanted to learn all I could about fighting diseases naturally. Hence, we have started our life changing business (life changing for us as well as those we help). We distribute information to anyone who is open to hear about alternatives, and distribute products to those who want to act on that information. I think everyone knows someone with cancer, someone who they would like to help get through it. And everyone else wants to avoid cancer. Other ailments or diseases that we have information on includes Osteoporosis, ulcers, arthritis, Alzheimers disease, kidney stones, varicose veins, cardio myopathy, pica, liver spots, diabetes, male pattern baldness, deafness, menopause, receding gums, high blood pressure, pre-menstrual symptoms, ADD, ADHD, endometriosis, hormones, eczema, cronic fatigue, multiple chemical sensitivity, digestive health, weight issues, parasites, the list goes on So if you can pass this information on to anyone you might like to help, it would be greatly appreciated. Or if you want some of our information, these are our details: Living the Good Life Lindy and Evan Davies PO Box 316 Eaglehawk, Vic 3556 Phone 03 5446 7849 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have a lovely day, Evan _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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Has any one sent any thing to the man from Iran? From: majid rostami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:45:06 AM America/Edmonton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: request Hello Dear I am MS student andvery interesting to study about biodynamic and organic farming , but in my country we did not have enough source about this matter and also I did not have very access to internet , so if it is possible for you please send to me your paper or book which you did not need to them about this matter or similar matter . very thank you your sincerely : majid rostami My address: Ferdowsi Univ. of Mashhad School of Agric. P.O. Box 91775-1163 , Mashhad - IRAN
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All this talk about using trees as prep broadcasters- how does this work? Tara
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--- Begin Message --- If you haven't bought yet your piece of land on the moon, this may concern you... The Brazilian congress is now voting on a project that will reduce the Amazon forest to 50% of its size It will take 1 MINUTE to read this, but PLEASE put your names on the list and forward this on. The area to be deforested is 4 times the size of Portugal and would be mainly used for agriculture and pastures for livestock. All the wood is to be sold to international markets in the form of wood chips, by large multinational companies. The truth is that the soil in the Amazon forest is useless without the forest itself. Its quality is very acidic and the region is prone to constant floods. At this time more than 160,000 square kilometres deforested with the same purpose are abandoned and in the process of becoming deserts. Deforestation and the subsequent processing of the woodchips) on this scale will also release huge amounts of carbon which is currently locked up in the wood) back into the atmosphere worsening the problem of climate change. We just cannot let this happen. Please copy the text into a 'new email' put your complete name in the list below, and send to everyone you know. (DON'T JUST FORWARD IT THOUGH AS IT WILL THEN END UP WITH ROWS AND ROWS OF <'s.) If you are the 400th person to sign please send a copy to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@openlink.com.br> mailto:fsaviolo@open [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for your help 01 - Fernanda de Souza Saviolo - Rio de Janeiro - RJ 02 - Nara Maria de Souza - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 03 - Julio Cesar Fraga Viana - Rio de Janeiro - RJ- 04 - Monica Grotkowsky Brotto -Sao Paulo - SP - 05 - Mauricio Grotkowsky Brotto - Sao Paulo - 06 - Ricardo A.Corrallo - SP 07 - Sunny Jonathan - SP 08 - Leonardo Larsen Rocha - SP 09 - Evandro Sestrem - 10 - Marco Aurlio Wehrmeister - Blumenau - SP 11 - Angela Maria Gonalves - Blumenau -SP 12 - Alessandra Bernardino- Blumenau - SP 13 - Pedro Carstens Penfold - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - 14 - Annelena Porto Delgado - S*o Paulo - 15 - Erica Couto -S*o Paulo - 16 - Elaine Couto- S*o Paulo - SP 17 - Tatiana de Almeida Voivodic - S*o Paulo 18 - Solange B Furlanetto - S*o Paulo / SP 19 - Marcos deSouza Mello - S*o Paulo / SP 20 - Eliane Santiago - S*o Paulo/ SP 21 - Francisca J. Bezerra Alves Ara*jo - S*o Paulo /SP 22 - Carlos Alberto Dantas Junior - Rio de Janeiro /RJ 23 - Daniel Rodrigues da Cruz - Rio de Janeiro / RJ 24 - Gabriella Gaida - Rio de Janeiro - RJ 25 - Ceclia Silva Teixeira Pinto - RJ - 03/06/75 26 - Tania Santos Miguel 27 - Celso Henrique Diniz Valente de Figueiredo -RJ 28 - Marcelo Lopes Rheingantz - Rio de Janeiro - RJ 29 - Rodrigo Tassinari de Oliveira - Rio de Janeiro - RJ 30 - Andr Lobato Pinheiro - Rio deJaneiro - RJ 31 - Ismael dos Santos Silva - RJ - 32 - Gustavo Alexandre Caetano Correa - RJ - 33 - Juana Varella Barca de Amorim - Rio de Janeiro 34 - Nara Faria Silva Rio de Janeiro -RJ- 35 - Isabella Jaggi S*oPaulo- SP - 36 - Diana de Andrade Freitas - Rio de Janeiro -RJ 37 - Karina Dourado - S*o Paulo - 38 - Pablo Genuncio Garcia - Rio de Janeiro - 39 - Fabola Morais de Lucca - S*o Paulo - 40 - Alexei Morais de Lucca - S*o Paulo - SP - 41 - Renata Regina Roxo - S*o Paulo - SP - 42 - Fernanda Teixeira - S*o Paulo - SP - 43 - Patricia Freitas - S*o Paulo - SP 44 - Cintia Regina K*rner -Alemanha - DE - 45 - Wolfgang K*rner - Alemanha - DE 46 - Roseani Vieira Rocha - San Francisco - CA 47 - Angela Ichimura - S*o Paulo - SP 48 - Assunta Viola - Sao Paulo - SP 50 - Marina Amaral - Alemanha - DE 51 - Fabian Rodrigues Caetano - Sao Paulo - SP - 52 - Luciana Cabrera- Santa Barbara- Ca 53 - Andrea Torres- Lahaina, Hawaii 54 - Carla Duarte- New York, NY 55 - Sergio Goes - New York, NY 56 - Itaal Shur - New York, NY 57 - Hiroyoku Sanada-New York, NY, US 58 - Marianne Ebert-new york, NY, US 59 - Gloriana M. Calhoun - New York, NY 60 - Roger Jazilek - New York, NY 61 - Cheryl To - New York, NY 62 - Judy Mercer - Paris, France 63 - Evelyne Pouget- Woodstock, NY 64 - Hera-Woodstock, NY 65 - Nicos Peonides - Cyprus - New York NY 66 - Fiona Cousins - New York, NY 67 - Alistair Millington - London, UK 68 - Edgar Craggs - Bristol, UK 69 - Chris Hastie - Nottingham, UK 70 - Adam Barley - Bristol, UK 71 - Dawn Morgan - Bristol, UK 72 - Lottie Berthoud - Bristol, UK 73 - Julia Simnett - Bristol, UK 74 - Lindsey Colbourne - Bath, UK 75 - Wendy Lawton - Bath, UK 76 - James Friel - Birmingham, UK 77 - Sylvia Magyar - Budapest, Hungary 78 - Danco Uzunov - Budapest Hungary 79 - Vladimir Jurukovski - New York, USA 80 - Laste Stojanovski - Auckland, New Zealand 81 - Katerina Rusevska - Skopje, Macedonia 82 - Snezana Pesic -Kragujevac, Yugoslavia
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Peace in growth to all of you Smiling springtime (or autumn) Jasminka A postcard is on main page of www.yanta.net
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Hello bdnow, Jose, Hugh Lovels recent post re the dangers of just building soils with OM and compost with out regard to environmental energy levels etc (is that a fair brief synopsis?) raises more questions for me as to the desired outcome from my trials in vineyard mulch application. Compost contains minerals & nutrients that are not readily available to plants cf soluble salt fertilizers, contained in the cells of the organisms that composted the plant material. Therefore they should not in theory boost nitrate levels as readily as soluble fertiliser. Have you encountered the problems Hugh warns of with excessive compost or OM application to soils. Elaine Ingham talked about Prairie soils in the USA containing 10 -14% OM and having incredibly diverse soil microbiology, now exhausted by modern agriculture and less than 1% OM. Australian soils are very old, much of the original mineral characteristics from the parent material has been leached out and 2% OM would be considered pretty good. Do you have any experience of boosting OM to higher levels by compost/OM addition or as the outcome of years of BD management. What outcomes have been achieved? I would be happy with competitive weed control and delete herbicides, Improved plant nutrition resulting in better yields, Improved soil structure & texture and soil food web -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello bdnow, I am looking for advice, books netsites etc with information on building with straw bales. I am converting an old hay shed into am above ground winery. Basalt bedrock near the surface means it is much more economical to go up than dig down. Walls will be about 5 metres high and I am concerned that due to the height the small square bales stacked on their edge (about 10 high) will be difficult to stabilise. All advice appreciated. -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello bdnow, Gil et al, An interesting outcome of the soil and petiole analysis is that Phosphorus under the compost is higher than under straw or herbicide treatments? May be due to pH changes under compost making P more available rather than a contribution of P from the compost. I had the compost analysed by SFI and Elaine reckoned that it would contribute 50 lbs per acre of N from soil biota activity (~50KG/ha) and this is certainly showing up in the petiole analysis and to a lesser extent in the soil analysis. 0.01% OM? Are you farming on the beach? I am tempted to try rock dust to boost soil P , but as I make the wine from the fruit from this vineyard and have been happy with the quality I am wary of changing too much just for the joy of experimenting. This trial and 10 years observation have convinced me that herbicides, my last chemical dependence, can be safely removed from my shopping list from now on! -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello bdnow, Compost was spread ~3 to 4 inches deep under vine rows and ~ 2 feet wide. On a broad acre scale this an enormous amount of compost to apply. Average results from tests Herbicide pH (in water) = 5.53 Straw mulch pH = 5.59 Compost pH = 6.08 -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello bdnow, I am looking through the results from soil and petiole testing of a trial running in a vineyard with a variety of undervine treatments. The compost treatment has shown a significant increase in soil pH. Has anyone out their observed similar outcomes? I enjoy the extraordinary variety of topics that seem to be legitmate content for this discussion group. Keep it up. -- Best regards, John mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Boron deficiency results in 'hollow heart' in many crops, a state occurring more and more often in organic produce in NZ. Glen That's interesting. I wonder why? According to my book on plant nutrition B deficiency can occur: on very light soils water logged soils high pH soils, after liming in form of B-Ca-Al silicate precipitation drought Might any one of these reasons apply? If the soils are actually deficient, what would be the solution? Add boron rich rock dust (mica rich rock dust) and then grow green manures that are deep rooted and use a lot (brassicas, rye corn, alfalfa) to keep th B in the top soil, add dandelion to the compost? Christiane
