Basalt

2003-03-10 Thread sherwood
Allan  all,

With BC on the mind I've been thinking about acquiring some basalt myself.

Agrowinn (888-794-3674) is selling the Suma, $4800.00/10 ton load (without
shipping) and 50 lbs bags for $20.

Nuthin But Rock (616-674-3078) (recommended by JPI) is selling basalt
fines for $10 / 25 lb box with a reduced frieght charge if you buy 10.
Hugh C. uses this and says that these fines need to be sifted for use in
BC.

It's the shipping that's the killer...especially for those of us who live
far from the mountains (any mountains!) Had a number for a basalt mine in
North Carolina a while ago, but I've misplaced itwill have to go
through some stacks to find it again. Talked with a company that was
mining green 'meta-basalt in Virginia, but never got a call back with
more information...

Good to see more 'local' posts on the list...

Ed




Re: Basalt

2003-03-10 Thread Allan Balliett
Ed - Got more info on that VA Basalt? There is also supposedly a 
paramagnetic basalt dust source near Dulles Airport, but I've never 
located it/ (Anyone?) -Allan

Which reminds me: how paramagnetic is Suma?



Re: Basalt

2003-03-10 Thread sherwood
Luck Stone  (1-800-898-LUCK)

Talked with someone about sending me more information about the
metabasalt...but never recieved a response.

If you find out more info...let me know (Virginia is closer to me than
Canada)

Ed

on a side note...if one does locate a source of rock close to home, how
would one go about checking the paramagnetic qualities of such a
material?? (where can it be sent?)



 Ed - Got more info on that VA Basalt? There is also supposedly a
 paramagnetic basalt dust source near Dulles Airport, but I've never
 located it/ (Anyone?) -Allan

 Which reminds me: how paramagnetic is Suma?




Re: Basalt

2003-03-10 Thread Jane Sherry
Allan  Steve,
Are you concerned that basalt from a source near an airport might be
contaminated with lead and other undesirables?

What about town leaf litter for compost in terms of pesticides? Will that
burn out in a pile?

Jane

 From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: Basalt
 
 Ed - Got more info on that VA Basalt? There is also supposedly a
 paramagnetic basalt dust source near Dulles Airport, but I've never
 located it/ (Anyone?) -Allan
 
 Which reminds me: how paramagnetic is Suma?
 



Re: Basalt

2003-03-10 Thread manfred
Re the basalt from Nuthin but rock..
I got 8 tons from him  (Gary Wilson) last fall, one of the last loads of
3/16 average, before there was a change of ownership at his quarry source.
I'll be seeing him in a week or so to find out if the new owners are still
planning to allocate the desired grit size for ag use.
Incidentally, Gary tells me that  larger pebbles have a significantly higher
reading on his instrument, but i dont know firsthand if there are enough
smaller finings in a load to glean a significant quantity for finer/
seedling work.
If anyone wants, i would be happy to shuffle any communication with him if
it saves telephone costs.
I'm still waiting to see test results this spring from his dust spread on a
local BD dairy farm's pasture in alternate strip
application.

For what it's worth, i have leftover pieces of drywall under my seedling
flats, imagining that its composition would be complementary to the radiant
rock dust in the trays sitting on it.
My original reason for the drywall was as a heatsink to gradualize any
temperature fluctuations.

I guess i should do a test comparison, but my space is so limited.
..manfred

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 Ed - Got more info on that VA Basalt? There is also supposedly a
 paramagnetic basalt dust source near Dulles Airport, but I've never
 located it/ (Anyone?) -Allan

 Which reminds me: how paramagnetic is Suma?




Re: Basalt

2003-03-10 Thread Lloyd Charles


 Ed

 on a side note...if one does locate a source of rock close to home, how
 would one go about checking the paramagnetic qualities of such a
 material?? (where can it be sent?)

I have sent this out to a couple of others on the list it may help you
When you are
looking at rock dusts you can do a simple test for paramagnetism that
will let you sort some of them out. I use a stack of little strong magnets
on a string - the magnets that people use in healing patches are ideal.
These are about a quarter inch round (called neo dimium I think) and you use
them for pain relief - stuck on the skin in a little circular bandaid
patch - I bet you know somebody that uses these - anyway about four used
ones of these in a little stack  (or anything similar) - tie a cotton or
light string around the
middle so you can hang the magnet down about a foot - now this is a
sensitive scientific instrument so we need to calibrate it - get a sample of
paramagnetic rock that you know the test reading of and keep it for
reference (about 3000 to 4000 cgs is ideal) - use 35mm film canisters for
the rock samples (or a paper envelope) - hold the canister in one hand on
its side and the magnet
on a string in the other - contact the magnet to the end of the canister
then slowly move the string hand away - keeping just enough tension so there
is no slack in the string but not pulling either - with reasonably good rock
you find the string on about 45 degree angle before the magnet comes away -
this is a good and quite accurate test IF you have a known rock for
comparison and it lets you take a preliminary look at anything you find
without spending any money - only thing is you need a strong little magnet -
the sort they use for fridge ornaments are not good enough. This method lets
you test local rock any time you see it and once you have a known sample to
compare with I think its a good enough test for paramagnetic activity, once
you get that far then I think that testing money is better spent looking at
what is the mineral makeup of the rock - some rocks have good paramagnetism
but lousy trace mineral analysis.
Your prices for rock seem high unless this is a special fine grind for
farming - we can buy the best rock in Aus for around 50bucks a ton ex the
quarry - but we only can get crusher dust grade this goes from about 3/16
down to powder most of its like sand.
Cheers
Lloyd Charles