Re: Smoke Alarm alarming

2003-02-03 Thread James Hedley
Dear Roger,
I thought that it would be common knowledge in America of the use of
depleted uranium in Iraq and Afghanistan. However American soldiers must be
immune to radioactivity as they are going to send 250,000 troops into the
areas where the depleted uranium has been used before.
The veterans from the first Gulf War can testify as to the effectiveness of
the use of depleted uranium.
Should be interesting to keep the medical records of those soldiers. Pity
even the poor technicians who will not know about the radioactivity of the
areas around the wells that they will need to bring back on stream. but as
Colin Powell has said he is not interested in those kinds of figures.
The victory in Iraq will be a pyrrhic one when you look at the long term
costs to the US. Our esteemed leaders who are holding a war conference next
weekend will incur a karmic debt that will take them many lifetimes to pay
off.
Regards
James Hedley

- Original Message -
From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Smoke Alarm alarming


 Allan Balliett wrote:

  The other difficult thing to figure out is the US gov's push to
  dispose of radioactive waste by putting it into products. This alarm
  must be an example of this (the good outdoes the bad: radioactive
  waste is being 'disposed' of). I've heard that the biggest reason for
  the irradiation push was to use up radioactive waste. Now we are
  hearing that many of the shells dropped in yugoslovia and Afghanistan
  were radioacitve, made of old plutonoium ie Throwing our radioactive
  waste all over someone else's country///
 
  Is this a green-lit fantasy, or is this what's happening?
 
 
 
 'Depleted Uranium' they call it and, Yes, Allan, it's happening. A lot
 of DU stuff was used in the  Kosovo conflict, quite possibly it is being
 used in bombs and missiles falling on Iraq now in the 'no fly' zone so
 assiduously defended by the US and the Brits..  Also I am given to
 understand there are 'No Go' radiation areas in some US and allied
 cemeteries around the graves of soldiers who have died since being
 involved in Desert Storm.

 Of course this is stuff we will rarely if ever read about or see in the
 mainstream media which is why it is so important to keep up with world
 news using other channels such as independent stations and papers and
 magazines of which GlobalNews is an excellent example. Unfortunately,
 until the bombs begin bouncing through their roofs or the SWAT teams
 through their front doors, the majority of people are not interested
 enough to turn away from their '494 stations from around the Worrrld
 on Your PayTeeVee Sets' to find out what's really happening 'out there'.

 February 15th is an ultra-important date in the ongoing tragedy of
 Planet Earth. It is probably one of the very few chances We the People
 will have to stop the war happening. If not the only chance. There will
 be a rally near you.  Please go to it.

 roger







Re: Smoke Alarm alarming

2003-02-03 Thread Jane Sherry
Thanks all for your responses. What's appalling is that my government,
engineers, and other politicians think it's ok to simply pollute, murder,
poison and dump their crap on the whole world, not to mention legislating
the use of these toxic devices in all of our homes (landlords, renters etc).
What's amazing is here outside of NYC, one of the excuses to keep Indian
Point Nukem plant open is that it would take umpty years to get rid of the
nuclear waste anyway. What's amazing is that these smoke alarm manufacturers
recommend putting these devices in every room of your house. More amazing,
there have been real life tests of these devices at Texas A  M proving they
don't even work!!! What's more amazing, is that you can barely read the
warnings printed on the box and the devices about proper disposal. What's
more amazing is that the powers that be around here, keep churning this crap
out onto an unsuspecting public...sorry, that little nukem sign really
flashed me back to duck and cover days of my childhood.

Jane S.

PS: to Lloyd: when I lived in Texas, I cut out a great photo of some
researchers standing under a grouping of power lines, holding two
fluorescent light bulbs just in their hands, and yes they were lit up. I
think I saved it in my picture files.

 From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:57:12 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Smoke Alarm alarming
 
 to use up radioactive waste




OT: Smoke Alarm alarming

2003-02-02 Thread Jane Sherry
Hello All, 
I just found out tonight when our smoke alarm kept beeping after changing
the battery  then taking it down from the ceiling, that it contains a small
part with the old radioactive symbol on it and warnings about it containing
radioactive material, which if needing repair should be sent to the company.

Turns out after Curtis did a bit of research on the web, that their are two
types of smoke detectors, one with the radioactive material  one kind with
a photo electric part.

You can guess what might happen if such a device were to burn up in a fire.

How is it possible that such things can be manufactured for use in the home?
Does anyone know anything about these things? Are our landfills,
incinerators  backyards full of these things decaying and leaking
radioactivity along with all the other pollutants?

Thanks for any insight into this amazing secret in so many of our homes.

Jane Sherry




Re: Smoke Alarm alarming

2003-02-02 Thread Lloyd Charles


smoke alarm  contains a small
 part with the old radioactive symbol on it and warnings about it
containing
 radioactive material, which if needing repair should be sent to the
company.

 Turns out after Curtis did a bit of research on the web, that their are
two
 types of smoke detectors, one with the radioactive material  one kind
with
 a photo electric part.

 You can guess what might happen if such a device were to burn up in a
fire.

 How is it possible that such things can be manufactured for use in the
home?
 Does anyone know anything about these things? Are our landfills,
 incinerators  backyards full of these things decaying and leaking
 radioactivity along with all the other pollutants?

 Thanks for any insight into this amazing secret in so many of our homes.

Hi Jane
Arden Andersen showed us a video of John Ott (a time lapse photo
hobbyist and retired banker) - he did  the photography for Walt Disney
pictures - dance of the flowers and cinderella where the coach turned into a
pumpkin - anyway he did extensive research on the effects of flouro lights
and other energy things and used to carry a smoke alarm around for
demonstrations of muscle testing - IN A LEAD LINED BOX- he said on the video
thats the only place this thing should be. If you can get hold of this
(video) its really interesting - the effects of certain types of fluro
lights are a real worry.
Try to get hold of this if you can - called 'Exploring the Spectrum' Dr John
Ott , also his book Light, Radiation, and You.
Cheers
Lloyd Charles





Re: Smoke Alarm alarming

2003-02-02 Thread Allan Balliett
The other difficult thing to figure out is the US gov's push to 
dispose of radioactive waste by putting it into products. This alarm 
must be an example of this (the good outdoes the bad: radioactive 
waste is being 'disposed' of). I've heard that the biggest reason for 
the irradiation push was to use up radioactive waste. Now we are 
hearing that many of the shells dropped in yugoslovia and Afghanistan 
were radioacitve, made of old plutonoium ie Throwing our radioactive 
waste all over someone else's country///

Is this a green-lit fantasy, or is this what's happening?



Re: OT: Smoke Alarm alarming

2003-02-02 Thread Gil Robertson
By far the greater proportion of smoke detectors are the type with the 
radioactive part. I understand that you need to get it in you lung to do 
much harm. They are taken back by the resellers in Oz. One should not be 
burning plastic, so they should not be a risk there. They should not go 
in the land fill, they should be returned to the recyclers.

Gil

Jane Sherry wrote:
Hello All, 
I just found out tonight when our smoke alarm kept beeping after changing
the battery  then taking it down from the ceiling, that it contains a small
part with the old radioactive symbol on it and warnings about it containing
radioactive material, which if needing repair should be sent to the company.





Re: Smoke Alarm alarming

2003-02-02 Thread Roger Pye
Allan Balliett wrote:


The other difficult thing to figure out is the US gov's push to 
dispose of radioactive waste by putting it into products. This alarm 
must be an example of this (the good outdoes the bad: radioactive 
waste is being 'disposed' of). I've heard that the biggest reason for 
the irradiation push was to use up radioactive waste. Now we are 
hearing that many of the shells dropped in yugoslovia and Afghanistan 
were radioacitve, made of old plutonoium ie Throwing our radioactive 
waste all over someone else's country///

Is this a green-lit fantasy, or is this what's happening?



'Depleted Uranium' they call it and, Yes, Allan, it's happening. A lot 
of DU stuff was used in the  Kosovo conflict, quite possibly it is being 
used in bombs and missiles falling on Iraq now in the 'no fly' zone so 
assiduously defended by the US and the Brits..  Also I am given to 
understand there are 'No Go' radiation areas in some US and allied 
cemeteries around the graves of soldiers who have died since being 
involved in Desert Storm.

Of course this is stuff we will rarely if ever read about or see in the 
mainstream media which is why it is so important to keep up with world 
news using other channels such as independent stations and papers and 
magazines of which GlobalNews is an excellent example. Unfortunately, 
until the bombs begin bouncing through their roofs or the SWAT teams 
through their front doors, the majority of people are not interested 
enough to turn away from their '494 stations from around the Worrrld 
on Your PayTeeVee Sets' to find out what's really happening 'out there'.

February 15th is an ultra-important date in the ongoing tragedy of 
Planet Earth. It is probably one of the very few chances We the People 
will have to stop the war happening. If not the only chance. There will 
be a rally near you.  Please go to it.

roger