Re: account_unrealized_gains, account_current_conversions'

2024-04-20 Thread Chary Chary 


On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:09:04 AM UTC+2 bl...@furius.ca wrote:

On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 3:20 PM Chary Chary  wrote:


I'm planning nothing at this point, I'm so busy I can't even get to my 
email during the week
 

Martin,

The work you have done so far on the beancount v2 code and documentation is 
so thorough and high quality, that you shall be able to pause beancount 
until better times.

(I internally at my work point people to the beancount documentation, when 
I have to give example of how a proper documentation shall look like)

 


   - Also, when you capture this information in options 
   ('account_current_conversions', 'account_unrealized_gains'), who are the 
   intended consumers of this information? At the moment beanquery seems to be 
   the only consumer of the *load_entries (*as reports are being phased out 
   in v3)

So, does beanquery do something useful with these options? Will these 
options influence any queries? 


I just grepped the source, indeed since I deleted a bunch of code in v3 
these options aren't used, they need to be deleted


Ok, thanks


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Re: account_unrealized_gains, account_current_conversions'

2024-04-19 Thread Martin Blais 
On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 3:20 PM Chary Chary  wrote:

> Martin,
>
> thanks.
>
>
>- Is my understanding correct, that you   you are planning to expand
>the current 5 accounts (Assets, Liabilities, Income, Expenses, Equity) also
>with Earnings and Conversions?
>
> I'm planning nothing at this point, I'm so busy I can't even get to my
email during the week


>
>- Also, when you capture this information in options
>('account_current_conversions', 'account_unrealized_gains'), who are the
>intended consumers of this information? At the moment beanquery seems to be
>the only consumer of the *load_entries (*as reports are being phased
>out in v3)
>
> So, does beanquery do something useful with these options? Will these
> options influence any queries?
>

I just grepped the source, indeed since I deleted a bunch of code in v3
these options aren't used, they need to be deleted





>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 5:30:14 PM UTC+2 bl...@furius.ca wrote:
>
> These were defined to absorb amounts produced by summarizations described
> in
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/100tGcA4blh6KSXPRGCZpUlyxaRUwFHEvnz_k9DyZFn4/
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 6:38 AM Chary Chary  wrote:
>
> Martin,
>
> sorry, did you manage to have a loot at my question?
>
> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:39:27 PM UTC+2 Chary Chary wrote:
>
> Martin,
>
> I am working on unrealized gains analysis in beancount  (probably somehow
> similar to what you have in v2, but the one which works also in the
> situation, where nothing is booked at cost). In fact I only tested this so
> far for the situations of booking without the cost
>
> The goal is that you can exactly see by using beanquery P query
> where the change in your net worth between 2 different periods comes from
> (even in case you move your assets between different currencies, whilst
> currency prices change).
>
> I have it working for my purposes now, but I will try to bring it to the
> state, where it can be made publicly available.
>
> I noticed, that in v3 you have the following options in beancount:
>
> 'account_current_earnings': 'Earnings:Current', 'account_current_conversions':
> 'Conversions:Current', 'account_unrealized_gains': 'Earnings:Unrealized',
>
>
> So, my questions are:
>
>
>- what are these accounts?
>
>
>- Are you planning to expand the current 5 accounts (Assets,
>Liabilities, Income, Expenses, Equity) also with Earnings and
>Conversions?
>
>
>- If yes, What is the thinking behind this?
>
>
>- What is the thinking behind booking unrealized gains to 
> 'Earnings:Unrealized',
>rather than Income: Unrealized
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: account_unrealized_gains, account_current_conversions'

2024-04-15 Thread Chary Chary 
Martin,

thanks. 


   - Is my understanding correct, that you   you are planning to expand the 
   current 5 accounts (Assets, Liabilities, Income, Expenses, Equity) also 
   with Earnings and Conversions?



   - Also, when you capture this information in options 
   ('account_current_conversions', 'account_unrealized_gains'), who are the 
   intended consumers of this information? At the moment beanquery seems to be 
   the only consumer of the *load_entries (*as reports are being phased out 
   in v3)

So, does beanquery do something useful with these options? Will these 
options influence any queries? 

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 5:30:14 PM UTC+2 bl...@furius.ca wrote:

These were defined to absorb amounts produced by summarizations described 
in 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/100tGcA4blh6KSXPRGCZpUlyxaRUwFHEvnz_k9DyZFn4/


On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 6:38 AM Chary Chary  wrote:

Martin,

sorry, did you manage to have a loot at my question?

On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:39:27 PM UTC+2 Chary Chary wrote:

Martin,

I am working on unrealized gains analysis in beancount  (probably somehow 
similar to what you have in v2, but the one which works also in the 
situation, where nothing is booked at cost). In fact I only tested this so 
far for the situations of booking without the cost

The goal is that you can exactly see by using beanquery P query 
where the change in your net worth between 2 different periods comes from 
(even in case you move your assets between different currencies, whilst 
currency prices change).

I have it working for my purposes now, but I will try to bring it to the 
state, where it can be made publicly available.

I noticed, that in v3 you have the following options in beancount:

'account_current_earnings': 'Earnings:Current', 'account_current_conversions': 
'Conversions:Current', 'account_unrealized_gains': 'Earnings:Unrealized',


So, my questions are:


   - what are these accounts?


   - Are you planning to expand the current 5 accounts (Assets, 
   Liabilities, Income, Expenses, Equity) also with Earnings and 
   Conversions?


   - If yes, What is the thinking behind this?


   - What is the thinking behind booking unrealized gains to 
'Earnings:Unrealized', 
   rather than Income: Unrealized













 

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Re: account_unrealized_gains, account_current_conversions'

2024-04-14 Thread Martin Blais 
These were defined to absorb amounts produced by summarizations described
in
https://docs.google.com/document/d/100tGcA4blh6KSXPRGCZpUlyxaRUwFHEvnz_k9DyZFn4/


On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 6:38 AM Chary Chary  wrote:

> Martin,
>
> sorry, did you manage to have a loot at my question?
>
> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:39:27 PM UTC+2 Chary Chary wrote:
>
>> Martin,
>>
>> I am working on unrealized gains analysis in beancount  (probably somehow
>> similar to what you have in v2, but the one which works also in the
>> situation, where nothing is booked at cost). In fact I only tested this so
>> far for the situations of booking without the cost
>>
>> The goal is that you can exactly see by using beanquery P query
>> where the change in your net worth between 2 different periods comes from
>> (even in case you move your assets between different currencies, whilst
>> currency prices change).
>>
>> I have it working for my purposes now, but I will try to bring it to the
>> state, where it can be made publicly available.
>>
>> I noticed, that in v3 you have the following options in beancount:
>>
>> 'account_current_earnings': 'Earnings:Current', 
>> 'account_current_conversions':
>> 'Conversions:Current', 'account_unrealized_gains': 'Earnings:Unrealized',
>>
>>
>> So, my questions are:
>>
>>
>>- what are these accounts?
>>
>>
>>- Are you planning to expand the current 5 accounts (Assets,
>>Liabilities, Income, Expenses, Equity) also with Earnings and
>>Conversions?
>>
>>
>>- If yes, What is the thinking behind this?
>>
>>
>>- What is the thinking behind booking unrealized gains to 
>> 'Earnings:Unrealized',
>>rather than Income: Unrealized
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: account_unrealized_gains, account_current_conversions'

2024-04-14 Thread Chary Chary 
Martin,

sorry, did you manage to have a loot at my question?

On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 10:39:27 PM UTC+2 Chary Chary wrote:

> Martin,
>
> I am working on unrealized gains analysis in beancount  (probably somehow 
> similar to what you have in v2, but the one which works also in the 
> situation, where nothing is booked at cost). In fact I only tested this so 
> far for the situations of booking without the cost
>
> The goal is that you can exactly see by using beanquery P query 
> where the change in your net worth between 2 different periods comes from 
> (even in case you move your assets between different currencies, whilst 
> currency prices change).
>
> I have it working for my purposes now, but I will try to bring it to the 
> state, where it can be made publicly available.
>
> I noticed, that in v3 you have the following options in beancount:
>
> 'account_current_earnings': 'Earnings:Current', 
> 'account_current_conversions': 
> 'Conversions:Current', 'account_unrealized_gains': 'Earnings:Unrealized',
>
>
> So, my questions are:
>
>
>- what are these accounts?
>
>
>- Are you planning to expand the current 5 accounts (Assets, 
>Liabilities, Income, Expenses, Equity) also with Earnings and 
>Conversions?
>
>
>- If yes, What is the thinking behind this?
>
>
>- What is the thinking behind booking unrealized gains to 
> 'Earnings:Unrealized', 
>rather than Income: Unrealized
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

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account_unrealized_gains, account_current_conversions'

2024-04-08 Thread Chary Chary 
Martin,

I am working on unrealized gains analysis in beancount  (probably somehow 
similar to what you have in v2, but the one which works also in the 
situation, where nothing is booked at cost). In fact I only tested this so 
far for the situations of booking without the cost

The goal is that you can exactly see by using beanquery P query 
where the change in your net worth between 2 different periods comes from 
(even in case you move your assets between different currencies, whilst 
currency prices change).

I have it working for my purposes now, but I will try to bring it to the 
state, where it can be made publicly available.

I noticed, that in v3 you have the following options in beancount:

'account_current_earnings': 'Earnings:Current', 'account_current_conversions': 
'Conversions:Current', 'account_unrealized_gains': 'Earnings:Unrealized',


So, my questions are:


   - what are these accounts?


   - Are you planning to expand the current 5 accounts (Assets, 
   Liabilities, Income, Expenses, Equity) also with Earnings and 
   Conversions?


   - If yes, What is the thinking behind this?


   - What is the thinking behind booking unrealized gains to 
'Earnings:Unrealized', 
   rather than Income: Unrealized













 

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