[Newbies] basicFormat method missing in SHTextStylerST80?
Hi everyone, I think that my smalltalk conversion will be much nicer if I can get the SVI emacs-like environments up and running. The editor and workspace work great, but the SVI ClassBrowser fails at the following point: basicStyle: (aText _ styler basicFormat: t asText). Where styler is an instance of SHTextStylerST80. Problem is it has no basicFormat method. The only reference to a basicFOrmat method via google is: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2004-April/077901.html which is hardly useful in this case, although it does point to the function of the method. First, can anyone suggest a change to the code or a wrapper implementation of basicFOrmat? This also points to a challenge that the ST community has with regards to it's use of traditional SCM. Since most coding projects (say Rails) use a standard text based SCM like CVS or subversion, they can run simple web interfaces allowing access to all versions of all source files. A huge benefit of that is that I can google for some class and method names (that may be in either an upcoming version or may have been deprecated years ago) and I will often find the source that implements that method which is a good starting point, even if noone has ever mentioned my specific issue. There don't seem to be any such online viewable repositories of, say, the squeak core. Is there any kind of repositary that would be suitable for putting a read only web front end on? Ideally with more granularity than just the snapshots of released image versions. Cheers, Mark. -- Mark Aufflick e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: mark.aufflick.com p: +61 438 700 647 f: +61 2 9436 4737 ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
[Newbies] Re: basicFormat method missing in SHTextStylerST80?
BTW, the line quoted is from PluggableSVIShoutMapMorphpreStyleText. If I replace basicStyle: with unstyledTextFrom: (the only method listed in the 'converting' catgory of SHTextStylerST80's instance methods) the browser will launch, but I don't have styled text... On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I think that my smalltalk conversion will be much nicer if I can get the SVI emacs-like environments up and running. The editor and workspace work great, but the SVI ClassBrowser fails at the following point: basicStyle: (aText _ styler basicFormat: t asText). Where styler is an instance of SHTextStylerST80. Problem is it has no basicFormat method. The only reference to a basicFOrmat method via google is: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2004-April/077901.html which is hardly useful in this case, although it does point to the function of the method. First, can anyone suggest a change to the code or a wrapper implementation of basicFOrmat? This also points to a challenge that the ST community has with regards to it's use of traditional SCM. Since most coding projects (say Rails) use a standard text based SCM like CVS or subversion, they can run simple web interfaces allowing access to all versions of all source files. A huge benefit of that is that I can google for some class and method names (that may be in either an upcoming version or may have been deprecated years ago) and I will often find the source that implements that method which is a good starting point, even if noone has ever mentioned my specific issue. There don't seem to be any such online viewable repositories of, say, the squeak core. Is there any kind of repositary that would be suitable for putting a read only web front end on? Ideally with more granularity than just the snapshots of released image versions. Cheers, Mark. -- Mark Aufflick e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: mark.aufflick.com p: +61 438 700 647 f: +61 2 9436 4737 -- Mark Aufflick e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: mark.aufflick.com p: +61 438 700 647 f: +61 2 9436 4737 ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] Plain file editing
On 2 juil. 06, at 00:42, itsme213 wrote: Is there an easy way, within squeak itself, to open a text editor on an entire class and simply edit the file and save the entire file (equivalently, file-in the string-buffer). I find I am quicker with this than all the mousing around, specially when making a new class. I know I can file-out and file-in, but I am looking to avoid those steps. Basically you should try to avoid to fileout and file in all the time. The code browser is there to help you, shout the syntax editor can help you to find mistake. Writing Smalltalk in VI can be painful. I suggest you to: - save your image - save the category doing a fileout - use Monticello and save a package but work with the tools have a look at my videos they show all the steps to do one by one. http://www.listic.univ-savoie.fr/~ducasse/Resources.html/ Thanks. ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
[Newbies] API: Control Squaek by Excel
Hello community, is it possible, to call a method of a Squeak class by another windows programm, e.g. Excel, via an API interface? Thank you very much. Best regards Uwe LoewTestsystemsRobert Bosch GmbHDiesel Systems, Engineering ECU Software (DS/EES1)Postfach 30 02 20 - 70442 Stuttgart - GERMANYTel: +49 711 811-45743 Fax: +49 711 811-31800[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.bosch.com ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] API: Control Squaek by Excel
Am 03.07.2006 um 11:30 schrieb Loew Uwe (DS/EES1): Hello community, is it possible, to call a method of a Squeak class by another windows programm, e.g. Excel, via an API interface? Not easily. Not impossible either, though - what kind of API do you have in mind? Knowing a bit more about the problem might help giving a more specific answer. - Bert - ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] Plain file editing
I have been pondering the same sorts of things, being something of an emacs junky. Today I discovered SVI, which implements vi-like or emacs-like key bindings for many editor panes (such as the class browser, work space). I am finding it a real boon. It doesn't change the way you interact with the smalltalk runtime at all, but when you want to shuffle around bits of text or jump from one window frame to another using familiar keyboard commands - well for me it's like coming to the surface of the water and being able to breathe again ;) You can find SVI in squeakmap - the one package has vi-like and emacs-like bindings. vi-like is the default but you just need to call a few methods to change over to a remarkably good rendition of the emacs editing experience (considering the author is a vi user). /Mark On 7/2/06, stéphane ducasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 juil. 06, at 00:42, itsme213 wrote: Is there an easy way, within squeak itself, to open a text editor on an entire class and simply edit the file and save the entire file (equivalently, file-in the string-buffer). I find I am quicker with this than all the mousing around, specially when making a new class. I know I can file-out and file-in, but I am looking to avoid those steps. Basically you should try to avoid to fileout and file in all the time. The code browser is there to help you, shout the syntax editor can help you to find mistake. Writing Smalltalk in VI can be painful. I suggest you to: - save your image - save the category doing a fileout - use Monticello and save a package but work with the tools have a look at my videos they show all the steps to do one by one. http://www.listic.univ-savoie.fr/~ducasse/Resources.html/ Thanks. ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners -- Mark Aufflick e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: mark.aufflick.com p: +61 438 700 647 f: +61 2 9436 4737 ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
RE: [Newbies] API: Control Squaek by Excel
Hi Uwe, There are a number of ways that you can use to communicate with either Excel to Smalltalk or Smalltalk to Excel. The issue is really out of the huge number of options which one do you want to try? The best thing to do is to decide which things are important to you. Here are some things to consider: Will excel be talking to Smalltalk on the same machine? Will excel need to retrieve a response (is the communication two-way)? What are the performance requirements of your system? Does the conversation need to be sub-second or will minutes be ok? Will there be more then one client talking to Smalltalk at the same time? Is there a database involved between excel and Smalltalk (which could be the source of your communication also)? As an example of a really easy communication protocol you could simply define a text structure (say xml and then you could use SAX or DOM... :). Then on a Smalltalk instance you could have a separate process that polls for a text file to appear and then reads in the contents. Now all you have to do is get excel to write a file into a location that Smalltalk can read, which is easy to do. If you answer some of the questions maybe I can help more. Happy coding! Ron Teitelbaum President / Principal Software Engineer US Medical Record Specialists [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Loew Uwe Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 5:30 AM Hello community, Is it possible, to call a method of a Squeak class by another windows programm, e.g. Excel, via an API interface? Thank you very much. Best regards Uwe Loew Testsystems ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
RE: [Newbies] Ruby macros
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of itsme213 Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 9:33 PM To: squeak-beginers Subject: [Newbies] Ruby macros I miss my Ruby macros (1st day in Squeak and I love it ... dislike the camelCase tho'). Would this be the correct way to go about it? RUBY: class Class def has_many symbol ...generate getter/setter with Collection.new end end class House has_many :doors # just remove this line to Undo ! end Correct me if I'm wrong, but those Ruby macro's don't actually generate getters and setters, rather, don't they just setup method_missing to intercept those calls as if getters and setters actually existed? Don't the relationships in ActiveRecord do this as well? If so, method_missing is the same as Smalltalk's doesNotUnderstand:, so you can accomplish the same thing in Smalltalk by overriding new on the class side and implementing methods like hasOne: and hasMany: to setup a property hash in the object that doesNotUnderstand: can check to handle messages. As a newbie, I doubt you're ready for hacking doesNotUnderstand:, yet, but it's certainly possible to implement declarative relationships, quite easily in fact. ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
[Newbies] Shouldn't 7r6.5 be the same as 7r65 * 0.1
Would some good soul please explain what Number readFrom: '7r6.5' should return. It is apparently not the same as 7r65 * 0.1 and before I dig deeper (why does this happen, is it a bug or feature) I'd appreciate that someone confirms or rejects (bug | feature). Thank you. /Klaus ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] SqueakMap, Monticello
Thanks Damien. Couple of follow-ups below. From: Damien Cassou [EMAIL PROTECTED] itsme213 wrote: I have tried to install some packages from SqueakMap and get errors about some pre-requisite dependencies. Is there a loader / packager that is aware of such dependencies and will automatically find and install them? No ! Most of the time, read the comment associated to the package, and you will know the dependencies. Do the packages themselves have declared dependencies on other packages(I mean outside the comments)? I ask because I seem to be getting error dialogs about missing classes, which does not tell me anything about where (e.g. which package) to find them. And the comments don't tell me either. e.g. This package depends on the following classes: CommandHistory Also, is a loaded package an object in squeak? If so, how can I locate / browse it? Thanks. ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] Plain file editing
to shuffle around bits of text or jump from one window frame to another using familiar keyboard commands - well for me it's like coming to the surface of the water and being able to breathe again ;) This sounds like manna from heaven ... I tried loading SVI and got: This package depends on the following classes: CommandHistory Any idea where I find that? It does not tell me which other package to install, and there is no package called CommandHistory. Thank you !! ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
[Newbies] Re: Shouldn't 7r6.5 be the same as 7r65 * 0.1
Hi Ken, on Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:51:00 +0200, you wrote: On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 20:30 +0200, Klaus D. Witzel wrote: Would some good soul please explain what Number readFrom: '7r6.5' should return. It is apparently not the same as 7r65 * 0.1 and before I dig deeper (why does this happen, is it a bug or feature) I'd appreciate that someone confirms or rejects (bug | feature). Thank you. /Klaus Because in the expression 7r65 * 0.1 the first value is in base 7 whereas the second is in base 10 7r65 * 7r0.1 IS the same valus as 7r6.5. Ah! This equation cut my knot, thank you Ken. /Klaus Ken ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
