Camp Collie in Shelby Montana
Shelley wrote: <> Shelley, Thanks for bringing the Camp Collie event in Shelby to my attention! Thank goodness for the Berner-L. Guess I need to watch more TV as your post was the first I've heard of it. I've made some phone calls and looks like some friends are going up there to help. I hope to get up there on Monday and possibly Tuesday. Are you going to be there? Thanks, Esther Wilson http://www.wilpowerkennels.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Re: Vicky and Major/Boy Problems
And, exactly what, pray tell, does one do if all's NOT tucked back in place??? Jen Cessi (rolling eyes) and Tucker (stop looking at me that way!) Don't be surprised if your boy has a pained expression on his face or even lets out a 'yip' when he retracts, it can be bit uncomfortable. A good brisk walk will help things return to normal more readily... then as Rose said, do check to be sure that all's tucked back in place.
Dogwise - free shipping
Dear All, Just thought I'd mention that Dogwise (dog & cat books 'n' stuff) have free shipping until the end of November on orders over $50. Great for those of you who plan ahead when buying their Christmas gifts ;-) There's another reason for me mentioning it, and that is because any purchases made through clicking the dogwise banner on Boris's Book Pages earn commission for the BMDCA Health Fund http://www.dogwise.com/entry.tmpl?header1=WSR0023 Last quarter we received a check from Amazon for over $50 for the same thing. Commission earned from click-through sales. Okay, so it's not much, but it's a nice easy way to generate funds for a good cause - and the good thing is - it doesn't cost us a penny! Wendy and Boris (Tanja and Tyra too) Boris Beard Ottawa, Canada http://members.rogers.com/bernerboris/bernerbooks.html
new berner -
Hi all, I've been asked to update you how the "new girl at our house" is going with our entlebucher... They are like an old married couple just after three weeks. They are the best of friends, go everywhere together, hate to be apart, sumo-Swiss wrestle, share their water, bones, toys, and sleeping favorite spots. She likes to cuddle, and he likes to be the boy on the go. They train totally opposite of one another, both sleep at my feet and occasionally argue over the goofiest stuff - just like my kids. I would say it is going well - now if I could learn to like sweeping. Another great thing about taking another dog - my husband spent $ on a new vacuum that will actually pick up the hair! I sweep - but at least I can do more than blow it around the room! Take care and all have a great day. LeAnn, family, Caspar and Ursa
Re: Rescue Berner -- foster home needed ASAP!
I may get flamed for this but the Bloemart's are known for their [B.Y.] Breeding practices. They used to be in Ontario, don't know why they moved -- maybe they had to?? But now they are the 'ward' of the Alberta club :-(. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca Toronto, Ontario (Canada) 416-264-1313 / email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Pat Long & Paul Dangel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | >>In NJ -- 18 month, male, neutered, bred by Grace Bloemart in Alberta, | Canada.
Confiscated Collies in Shelby, MT
I posted to the list earlier this week about the collies confiscated at the Canada/Montana border and how they need everyone's help. Please check the website for today's/Friday's Great Falls, MT newspaper, front page article on "Camp Collie at www.greatfallstribune.com it includes pictures of these poor animals that need your help. It was way too long to reprint to the list. The article is very in depth with pictures of these wonderful dogs who have been caught up in the tragedy of being moved by their "compassionate breeder" from Alaska to Arizona. These dogs endured 7 days without food and water before they got to the US border, then would have traveled another 3-4 days before reaching Arizona. I doubt if any would have survived, they were so dehydrated and malnourished. Please help if you can. Shelley Gonzales Bigfork, MT
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berner stuffed animals....from Costco
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Re: New "Mom" needs help
- Original Message - From: "BernerFrog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My pup was having the same problem with Innova. She's on the prescription > bland diet and having no problem, but my vet says to start weaning her over > to a new kibble soon. I'm having trouble deciding what to switch to. A > previous discussion about Innova mentioned that it is too rich - does that > mean that the fat content is too high? Any advice? Micawber had some loose stool issues on Innova (although it is perfect for Lliira and Nessie) so he is on California Natural. He likes it, has firmer stool, and it is just as good a food--just not quite so rich. Eileen Morgan The Mare's Nest http://www.enter.net/~edlehman --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002
RE: Vicky Whitney's Boy Questions
OMG, Vicky, I haven't laughed that hard in ages. Thank you. If anyone (any adult) missed that post on the Berner-L #4123, it's well worth going back to read (even if only for the chuckle you'll get). And Vicky, I'd like to take your topic on a brief, non-berner detour. Here in the wilds north of Billings, Montana, I've been a tad alarmed at the number of wierd animal sounds coming occasionally from the forest around us. This is especially alarming at night. My Tibetan Mastiff goes nuts over it sometimes. So I've actually gone out to find the source of the noises but without success. Upon casual inquiry of some longtime locals, one being the cattle rancher whose property adjoins ours, I learned its been rutting (mating) season for many species of the local wildlife. Thankfully, I'd already lived through his annual cattle breeding season with my only incident being when I had a superb 'mexican stand-off' with a thoroughly aroused bull in the middle of my road. It was a long few minutes before he decided that (1) I wasn't a cow and (2) I wasn't another bull. Whereupon my hubby said, of course, 'Welcome to the country'. I'm told the noises from the forest should stop soon. Sigh. Cheers, Esther Wilson http://www.wilpowerkennels.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com
Boy Questions Again
It's called "unsheathing the sword" Nancy Bullard - Vistaplatz - 1972
Re: New "Mom" needs help
My pup was having the same problem with Innova. She's on the prescription bland diet and having no problem, but my vet says to start weaning her over to a new kibble soon. I'm having trouble deciding what to switch to. A previous discussion about Innova mentioned that it is too rich - does that mean that the fat content is too high? Any advice? Karen & Maggie > Our Sammy pups had the same problem on Pro Plan, the problem cleared up > when we switched thier kibble. You may want to try that and see if it > helps.
Re: New "Mom" needs help
Our Sammy pups had the same problem on Pro Plan, the problem too cleared up when we switched thier kibble. You may want to try that and see if it helps. Jenny From: "Susan Berlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New "Mom" needs help Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:37:46 -0800 I am no expert on any of the issues you raise, but I know that my first berner, when she was a puppy had continual diarrhea with no obvious cause and no diminution of her energy level when she was on Pro Plan. It cleared up immediately when I switched her to another kibble. This is NOT a blanket criticism of Pro Plan; I think different dogs react differently to the ingredients in the various feeds. Susan . > > 1. Jack has had diarhea for about a week now but is acting fine > otherwise...We are feeding him Pro Plan Large Breed Puppy Formula... _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Vicky and Major
In a message dated 11/15/2002 12:49:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > As Major's breeder I think it's time you and I had a little talk about sex > education:-) Well Rose, I was wondering when you were going to step in!!! One more thing, for those who've been following the exploits of poor Major, and Bean, and Vilma's husband... Don't be surprised if your boy has a pained expression on his face or even lets out a 'yip' when he retracts, it can be bit uncomfortable. A good brisk walk will help things return to normal more readily... then as Rose said, do check to be sure that all's tucked back in place. -Sherri Venditti
Re: Vicky and Major
Vicky, Thank you for asking this important question. Rose, Thank you for explaining it so nicely. When Caolan was intact was wondering abut the workings also. Search in a lot of different books and on the internet, but there is not much information to be found. Sylvia Katvala with Neala In loving memory of Caolan
Re: New "Mom" needs help
I am no expert on any of the issues you raise, but I know that my first berner, when she was a puppy had continual diarrhea with no obvious cause and no diminution of her energy level when she was on Pro Plan. It cleared up immediately when I switched her to another kibble. This is NOT a blanket criticism of Pro Plan; I think different dogs react differently to the ingredients in the various feeds. Susan . > > 1. Jack has had diarhea for about a week now but is acting fine > otherwise...We are feeding him Pro Plan Large Breed Puppy Formula...
FREE Berner Graphics
We just finished a major reorganization and expansion of our Graphics WebPages. There are lots of new wallpapers, clipart & border sets. They are all FREE for personal or non-profit use. Enjoy! Dawn Gabig, Classique Berners Suburbs of Kansas City, USA BMDs/CHs: Cassie, Partner, Heather, Blossom & Scarlett Our Website Homepage: http://ClassiqueBMD.homestead.com FREE Graphics: http://ClassiqueBMDs.homestead.com/graphics.html
Vicky and Major
Hi Vicky, As Major's breeder I think it's time you and I had a little talk about sex education:-) Intact young dogs can arouse themselves in much the same way an adolescent boy does only he has to wait it out because his paws are already hairy!! What Major has experienced is known as an outside tie only he didn't have the pleasure of a bitch's company. Let us assume there is a bitch around (even if it's just a dream right now:-). The dog mounts from behind and after much poking around will penetrate the bitch and pelvic thrusts are observed while he's trying to hit the bullseye. Once he's entered the penis quickly swells to rather enormous proportions and at the base of his penis is the "bulb" that locks him in place. It is while he is stomping her feet into the ground like some bad dancepartner he is drip ejaculating. (Incidentally for those of you who like to scratch your dog's butt and he starts to dance you are sexually exciting him, not so innocent eh?) Dogs do not ejaculate in a spurt like most mammals but drip like a leaky faucet. This is normally very cloudy containing the semen, then depending on a)his expertise b) his manners he will collapse on the bitch's back with a satisfied if somewhat dopey expression on his face. If he is good at his job he effortlessly dismounts to one side and swings his leg over to stand bum to bum for a period of time, anything between 10minutes to 35minutes. Seems like forever in January:-) This is where we get back to Major's predicament, he is now dripping clear liquid and it is not urine but prostatic fluid. Just put a towel under him and tell him what a good boy he is, all is fine and all you have to do is squish your inhibitions and make sure all goes back nicely and his sheath hasn't got caught and rolled inwards when he retracted himself. There is more information I can share with you but I'll move off the list before I make someone's grandma blush:-))) Rose
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RE: Rescue Berner -- foster home needed ASAP!
Hi, Knowing where this dog came from I doubt too much thought went into the selling or acquiring of him. One of those rash decisions and no counselling by the breeder and now this awful situation. The only way to help is for someone living closeby to provide guidance and try to encourage them to go walks with them and befriend these people and try to guide them with a degree of subtlety. Unfortunately in our enthusiasm to help we can often be interpreted as interfering or critical which puts people's backs up. There may well be some underlying issues that make this dog difficult to control but physical force and stress isn't going to work, if there is a possibility to let people know what potential dangers might lie ahead for their children they might reconsider letting the dog enter the rescue and rehabilitation programs available. Hoping for a happy ending Rose
RE: breed ring grooming supplies Q
Hi Vilma, A lot of people use the Air Commodore, it is easy to move around to shows and comes in different power levels. I wouldn't be without mine:-) Rose
RE: Shedding & Supplements
Hi Kim, Your post reminds me of one of my favorite enquiries:-) "Surely if I feed a puppy correctly his hair won't fall out?"!! Now Berners shed big time and its one of those things we live with but a good rule of thumb is that intact males and neutered males and spayed bitches will shed coat bigtime about June and to a lesser extent end summer. They will coat up in the winter and hopefully carry a set of summer pyjamas for the heat wave:-) Now intact females are governed by their hormones and about ten to twelve weeks post partum they will be virtually bald and if not bred most seem to shed out just prior to coming into season. Weather has no influence on these lassies so for those of us in the Great White North we have to be mindful about our brood bitches condition and the chill factor. Now, if a Berner is constantly shedding big time (there is always a little fur in the brush between normal times) you might like to check thyroid levels by having your veterinarian draw blood and send to either Cornell University or Michigan State University for a full panel analysis. A dry coat can be improved by adding canned pink salmon or sardines to the diet but easy on the amounts for a very young puppy. A premium kibble or a well balanced BARF diet should be enough without buying "snake oil" supplements:-) Rose
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New "Mom" needs help
I am a new "mom" to a Berner pup now 11 weeks old. and aprox. 20 lbs. I have no human children so I haven't delt with some of these problems. 1. Jack has had diarhea for about a week now but is acting fine otherwise. The vet said to give him 1/2 tsp. of Imodium for 24-48 hours and feed him plain boiled white rice with some strained chicken baby food. I gave him the Imodium for 48 hours and finally saw some improvement in his stool so I discontinued it last night. We continued with the rice and added a small amount of his kibble this morning. This mornings first stool started out pretty good but by the end it was soft again. His second stool this morning was liquid. He had roundworm and cocsidia when we brought him home but it cleared up with medication. His last stool check was two weeks ago and it came out negative for worms. We are feeding him Pro Plan Large Breed Puppy Formula which gave him no problem for the first 3 weeks we had him. We started him in Puppy Kindergarten 2 weeks ago and now we can't give him treats when he does good as part of his training so we are afraid he will fall behind in his training. Has anyone had a similar experience, what was the problem and how was it cured? 2. Jack has started limping and favoring one of his back paws/leg. I don't know if he hurt it but I did hear him scream yesterday morning then he wouldn't put it down on the floor for a while. This morning he is still favoring it and lifts it off the ground when he poops but he will still run with a limp and put his front paws up on something which puts all of his weight on his back legs. He will let me touch the entire leg/paw with no complaints. Is he just being a baby or could there be something more wrong. He should have good hips according to the breeder and the vet said they seemed fine on his first puppy exam. Again, has anyone had a similar experience, what was the problem and how was it cured? Any input would be appreciated. He is still active/mischievous, plays with his "big sister" (9 yr old Lab) and has a good appetite. Maria Mirti and Jumpin' Jack Flash [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ringwood, NJ
MINI FUNDRAISER TO BEEIFIT CANCER RESEARCH
I am VERY excited about this fund raiser, for two reasons. One, as Pat Long did, I also lost my precious, first berner, to Histocytosis. To many of us have, and we all share that pain. Pat Long has been doing a fanominal job and, unrelenting, I might add, to make us all very well aware of what we can do in regards to fighting Cancer in our precious breed. We all want this hateful Cancer eradicated!! Twomy dear friend, Willem Wijnberg, has very kindly and graciously given us a tool in which we can participate in generating funds towards this Cancer cause. When you go look at the paintings he is presenting, p://www.overthefence.com/raffle/CHF/ please go look at another website, one owned by Jean Cheesman, http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/willem.htm and see many more of Willem's gorgeous paintings!! You will see what an incredible artist he is! When I lost my Britney to Histio, three years ago, Willem was kind enough to paint her picture as a surprise to me and, just a few months ago, also, as a surprise, sent me another one of his paintings, of Angel and Amika. They are both on Jean's website. :-) Willem has also painted for the Cancer cause of his beloved Newfies. What more can I say, but, Willem has a HEART OF GOLD and he is an Angel for our Berners and the Newfies! :') SOO, BUY THOSE RAFFLE TICKETS!!! Let's make Willem PROUD to have given us this tool to raise funds for our BELOVED BERNERS!!! :-D!!! Thanks for your time and your ears... Karen, Angel and Amika www.overthefence.com/connors http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/willem.htm
Re:eager to see you
hello and giant stuffed berners
Hello all, I'm somewhat new to the list and mostly just a quiet participator. I am the proud mom of a almost three year old berner boy. He is the greatest and fills all my days with smiles. He's also a pro at the between the legs move to get his hind end scratched, I love explaining that one to company, especially the shorter people who nearly fall over when he trys his butt scratching moves!! I'm a little behind in this request but I hope not too late. Does anyone have access to a large stuffed berner that were at Costco's. The one here in Cleveland, OH is not carrying them. They have recently opened, so I'm not sure if that's why they don't have them. They do have giant Old English Sheepdogs but no berners. If anyone can help I would appreciate it!! Thanks, Brandy and Bucca, berner lap dog extraordinaire _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Radical?
In a message dated 11/14/2002 10:36:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > A recent post indicated that one might consider it radical to not breed even > one dog that had the trembling syndrome. > To me, this makes perfect sense and my congratulations to the British for > their bravery and progressiveness. > Why would a process such as this, which saves countless pups from suffering, > not be applauded. I wasn't the author of that post but my interpretation of the phrase was "radical" in terms of extensive or complete, such as "radical mastectomy"...not radical in terms of a value judgement like 'over the top'. I used the phrase "the British cut hard and deep into the breeding pool..." to mean the same thing. And yes, I do applaud the people involved for making hard decisions in favor of the future of the breed. It's thanks to their efforts (and sacrifice!) that we can answer a query like Valerie's with 'good news' and not bad. -Sherri Venditti
bumps in dogs face
Hello, since some days my 3 1/2 year old berner Vincent has some bumps in his face, like swellings. Have someone experience of maybe bruises in dog´s skin or face, these small swellings feels a bit hard. He can have been hurting himself when he the other day had paniced when he was alone at home (he do not like very high sounds like from drilling if some of the neighbours in the house drill). I found a very wet window and a wet dog, he had salivating a lot ( do dog´s do this salivating when the stress is like panic?). He had jumped on a big table close to a window and can have been hurting his face in the jump - if he has turned his face in the window handles, my theory. Send an answer if you know anything on bruises in dogs, how they feel - if they are impossible. Margareta Strand
