Fwd: Bernese Mtn Dog segment (KMM647112V8387L0KM)

2002-11-22 Thread BernerFolk
Here's the response I rec'd from MSL when I asked when the Ridgefield walk 
segment would air.
-Sherri

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Thank you for your interest in Martha Stewart Living television.

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week in advance at any given time, we recommend checking the Program 
Guide in the TV/RADIO section of marthastewart.com. We try to post 
scheduled programs at least a few days in advance.

We apologize for being unable to direct you further.

Best Wishes,

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Original Message Follows:

Last month there was a MSL crew filming the Berner gathering in 
Ridgefield, 
CT.  Can you advise when that segment will air?

Given the increasing popularity of the breed, and the undesireable 
consequences that go along with that...the Bernese community is anxious 
to 
see what material MSL presents to the public.  Hopefully it will go 
beyond 
the beauty of the breed and discuss things like the BARC organization 
(which 
rescues BMDs from exploitive situations like puppy mill auctions, 
www.barcinc.com) and responsible dog ownership.

TIA,
Sherri Venditti


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AKC CHF Fundraiser - There is STILL TIME.......

2002-11-22 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
The drawing for the two gorgeous paintings that Willem Wijnberg painted for 
our AKC CHF Fundraiser to fight canine cancer will be on Thanksgiving Day. 
Both of these Berner paintings are just gorgeous and once you see them you 
are going to want to make a donation to help fight Cancer and to try to win 
one of these paintings.

The first painting (14 x 14 inches)  is of Yasper, the father of Willem's 
Berner, Dingo, who died from Malignant Histiocytosis.

The second painting (12 x 10 inches) is of Jean Cheesman's puppy, Sam (from 
England) who died about 3 years ago from cancer at the young age of six 
years.

Here is the website with all of the directions for entering the drawing: 
	http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/CHF/
Thank you, Karen Pickel, for once again making such a great website.  If 
you haven't visited the website, please take a minute to check it out. 
You'll be happy you did!!!

PLEASE support this very important fundraiser.   This is something that 
everyone can support.  If you know anyone who has lost a Berner to 
Malignant Histiocytosis, then you know the heartbreak that they have 
experienced.   Wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to eradicate this 
terrible disease by supporting this study through our donations?   You can 
help.  It is NOT TOO LATE to send your checks to me.  Please send me an 
e-mail at:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 	and tell me how much you are sending and how 
you would like me to distribute your tickets.  I will cover your check and 
put your tickets into the drawing, even if your check doesn't arrive in 
time for the drawing.  This is a fundraise that is vital to the lives of 
our current Berners and our future Berners.  Won't you please be part of 
the solution.   I am hoping to get an avalanch of checks over the next 
week.   Winston is waiting to be able pull a whole cartload of checks to 
the house from all of you generous Berner lovers.   We can do it.  Thanks 
in advance for your generosity!!

Joye Neff and Winston (Samantha and Ben)
Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA



Re: AKC CHF Fundraiser - There is STILL TIME.......

2002-11-22 Thread Pat Long
http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/CHF/

Joye,

I also found out that Matthew Breen (who is also working on this study in 
North Carolina in concert with the lab at Fred Hutchinson) is known to the 
Berner community in the UK. It may have even been his influence that helped 
target the Bernese malignant histiocytosis as the best cancer to research in 
order to find better ways to detect chromosome aberrations associated with 
canine cancers.

Pat Long, a babysat Gabby ( Luther)
Berwyn PA





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We need Help Help Help with Transport!!!

2002-11-22 Thread KahlanRule
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Re: We need Help Help Help with Transport!!!

2002-11-22 Thread Annes4
In a message dated 11/22/2002 8:04:46 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 We are still in need of some help transporting Teddy.  

There is still a segment between the IL/IN border and Akron, OH on Saturday 
that still needs filling as I understand it.  Are there any listers that can 
fill in parts of that leg?  Contact Ellen at ERKEANE@ aol.com if you can help.

Anne Copeland, Flash,TDI/CGC (Berner, 8 yrs.)  Gypsy TDI/CGC(Rescue 
Cavalier,1 1/2 yr.)
NE ILL   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ty's memorial page: http://www.geocities.com/workingyorkie/ty.html
Gypsy's page:http://hometown.aol.com/annes4/Gypsy.html




Help Needed for Run

2002-11-22 Thread KahlanRule
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Imitation is the Sincerest Form of Flattery

2002-11-22 Thread Nobles.Carrie


 IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY 
 
   
   Don't take this the wrong way, but for the longest time now, I've been
 
   trying to imitate my dog. Not his look, which is furry and black.  Not
 
   his walk, which, as with most of a waddle. And not his tail. I don't
 need 
   a tail. I have enough trouble buckling my pants as it is 
   Also, I can live without his bathroom habits, which can be summed up 
   this way: Tree or bush? Tree or bush? Aw, how about right here on the
 
   grass. 
 
   No, what I admire about my dog is his fascination with the simple 
   routine of life. Every day for him is like boarding the space shuttle.
 For 
   example: In the morning, I tumble out of bed, grumble, yawn, open the 
   door, and TA-DA! There he is, the canine answer to Richard Simmons. 
   He is so worked up, he doesn't know which way to go, toward me or 
   away from me. So he does both. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! he seems 
   to pant. It's morning, and I'm gonna eat! 
 
   Never mind that he has eaten every morning since he was 
   born. Or that he's had the same food every morning since he was born, 
   and that was 7 years ago. Never mind. He pulls me downstairs and waits
 
   breathlessly as I scoop yet another helping of boring brown nuggets
 into 
   his bowl. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! Food, food, food!  I yawn. 
   
   Three minutes later, he is off the food thing and into a new
 obsession: 
   going out.  Again, he runs forward and backward. I'm going out! I'm 
   going out! Is this great or what?  Never mind that going out has not 
   changed one bit since we've lived here. He is so thrilled by the
 notion 
   of exit that he almost bites the doorknob off.  He bolts into the 
   backyard as if heading for Tomorrowland with a sack full of E
 tickets. 
  I slouch and yawn again.The great outdoors! 
   
   Then comes the bathroom routine, which I already  have described. 
   Humans deal with these functions begrudgingly. Not my dog. It's a real
 
   thrill for him. He scouts for the perfect spot as if looking for 
   beachfront real estate. Tree or bush? Tree or bush? And I don't have
 
   that many trees. Then, once his business is taken care of -- and I
 make 
   a mental note where we're going to have to shovel come summer -- he is
 
   off the going out obsession and onto a new one: going back in. 
 
   It doesn't matter than he was in just two minutes ago. Things have 
   changed! Things have changed! he seems to pant. I gotta get in
 there! 
   I gotta check it out! Hurry up, hurry up! When I open the door, he
 bolts 
   in, races back and forth -- looking for space aliens, I suppose -- and
 
   when he doesn't find any, he isn't disappointed. Instead, he snarls at
 
   some ratty toy he's played with for months, throws it into the air
 with 
   his teeth, and watches it and Look at that! he seems 
   to say. It goes up, it comes down! 
   
   As I make a cup of coffee, he jumps up to watch. Whatcha doing?
 Whatcha 
   doing? Coffee, huh? That's amazing! He then clamps onto my leg and
 does 
   a dance that, were it the early '50s, I might call the Hootchie Coo.
 I am 
   not sure what he gets out of this --Oh boy, a leg! Oh boy, a leg! --
 but 
   he seems to be having a better time than many of the dates I've had. 
   When I disengage and disappear behind a door, he lies down outside and
 
   waits for me to come out again. If it is only 30 seconds later, he
 will 
   still react as if I were a released hostage. 
   
   The sunny side. Now, my dog does not work. He does not pay taxes. He 
   does not create anything new (unless you consider the bushes outside).
 
   But he also doesn't need clothes, doesn't covet cars or jewelry, and
 doesn't 
   care about houses, as long as he can find a sunny spot on the floor
 and 
   lie there for a few hours. Meanwhile, I am bored with my same routine.
 
   Getting up is a drag. I can't get excited about breakfast. And going
 out 
   then coming back only makes me wonder how many flies I've let in. 
   
   So I'm trying to imitate my dog. I'm trying to find wonder in the 
   everyday. After all, when you think about it, it is pretty remarkable 
   that you open your eyes each morning.  And since every few hours you
 get 
   to quench your hunger, well, that's a thrill, when you consider the 
   alternative. 
   
   So while I can't match my dog's drool, I am trying to match his zeal. 
   Don't worry. If you come to visit, I will not clamp on your leg and do
 
   the Hootchie Coo. On the other hand, that sunny spot on the floor
 looks 
   pretty tempting. 
   
   
 
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2002-11-22 Thread Imbrich
I thought Martha Stewart Living was airing Ridgefield Berner Parade story today 
(11/22)  She's in high Thanksgiving mode and unfortunately there's no hint of Berners. 
 Does anybody have an update?




Berners and Newfs/ was Looking for Breeder

2002-11-22 Thread Eileen Morgan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I am looking for a breeder.  I used to live in Colorado and had talked to
 many people with BMD's.  After researching quite a bit, I feel that this
is
 the companion I am looking for.  I used to have a Newf, she was a great
 companion.  Although others didn't appreciate her slobber, her good traits
 more than made up for that inconvenience with me.  In talking with a
couple
 of owners they reccomended I research out the BMD.

As owner of both a Newf and a Berner, let me gently point out that while
they are both loving and clingy, they are VERY different dogs indeed when it
comes to the point of it: living with them. If you really, really enjoyed
the Newf personality and want the same basic thing in a smaller package, you
probably won't get that with the average Berner.

In my experience, these are trends, and individual dogs will fall closer and
further from these averages:

Berners are more agile and energetic than even a high energy Newf like my
Nessie, so they require a lot of exercise. There is no living with my Mic
unless he gets a serious activity period on a regular basis. I find that as
puppies, Berners are more likely to be sharks and eat your hands, arms, and
be a little more chew destructive than the average Newf puppy. They are more
inclined to temperament problems such as territory aggression and fear
aggression; they were farm guardians in the early years and this sharper
personality has remained a consistent subset of Berner temperament. Shy
personalities are also not uncommon. Do a search on the Berner archives for
some recent shyness and temperament issues and you'll see what I mean when
you see how many people talked about their shy dogs and what they were
trying to do to solve the problems. I believe while both suffer from health
problems, Berners have a slight edge in terms of more health issues.

They require similar amounts of grooming, they have a similar love of their
families, and they are both funny, engaging, and endearing companions.

I am not trying to dissuade you from a Berner! They are excellent companions
for a variety of families. However, they are really not particularly
Newf-like in my opinion.

Eileen Morgan
The Mare's Nest
http://www.enter.net/~edlehman


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Re: chronic ear problems

2002-11-22 Thread Eileen Morgan
Lliira always was getting ear infections; she also has airborne plant
allergies which render her completely miserable from late August until the
first frost. Last year we put her on allergy shots and low and behold, all
the ear infections cleared up and have not returned.

Eileen Morgan
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Re: Christmas Puppies for Sale!

2002-11-22 Thread Dino Candelaria


Dino and the Blackcoral Berner Bunch
remembering Kru, Cozy, Sergio and Diver
Caldwell ID
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geocities.com/blackcoralberner/

 Vicky Whitney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/02 04:40PM 
WAIT!! WAIT!! Read the whole letter before you get upset. 

Yep you can be upset at the end- this had me chuckling and crying at the same time.
I appriciated and enjoyed the sarcasm but the plight is only too real. 8-(
Ah but if only everyone(public) knew this
















Who Let the Dogs In? And When?

2002-11-22 Thread Robin Disler
Hi Everyone,

The link below is an article that appears in the Washington Post
today that I found interesting and thought you might enjoy.  It
talks about where and when dogs became domesticated and how dogs
actually understand humans even better then chimpanzees. 

Happy Reading,
Robin 
Berryville, VA

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23596-2002Nov21.html

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Understanding HD/ED Ratings

2002-11-22 Thread Karyn Waugh
Good Morning All!!

I have what I hope is a simple question.  I thought I knew what all the 
different ratings were for HD and ED and I'm finding out real fast that I 
know very little.

What does HD Normal mean?  OFA grades HD as either excellent, Good, Fair, 
Borderline, Mild, Moderate, or Severe.  However I have seen some breeders 
post the HD grade for their dogs as Normal.

For elbows, is it general that most breeders will state their dogs are ED 
clear if they are not graded? OFA will only grade ED if it is abnormal and 
therefore will not give a grade for ED that shows no signs of ED.

Something else I just noticed looking at some of the pedigrees from Europe.  
HD A and ED 0/0.  That is probably the equivalent of HD Excellent and ED 
clear here in the US.  Question with regard to this.  If you have a dog with 
HD D and ED 0/0 would you consider that the equivalent of HD Borderling and 
ED clear here in the US?

This is just really more for my education and trying to make sure I have 
been reading the HD/ED on the pedigrees correctly.  I think I have, but 
somehow when I saw Normal I realized maybe I missed something.

For the benefit of some of the PPOs out there...what are your 
recommendations to watch out for in terms of looking at HD/Ed on a pedigree. 
 If there is in a pedigree, 1 dog with HD - Moderate and all other HD Good 
and Fair, should they discount that dog because of the HD Moderate in the 
pedigree?  Should they look for pedigrees with all Excellent, Fair, and 
Good?  Since the risk really is with the PPO who is looking for a puppy, 
what would you caution them against?  My hunch is to say, in the US, HD 
Excellent, Good, and in Europe HD A and B.  And of course Elbows clear in 
the US and ED 0/0 in Europe.

I apologize ahead of time if this is a topic that has already been 
discussed, and if so, please point me to the digest this is on and I can go 
research it myself.  :-)

Thanks,
Karyn Waugh





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ADMIN: Plain Text versus HTML

2002-11-22 Thread Pat Long

HTML, or hyper-text markup language, is what allows us to post with colors, 
underlines, italics, and all of the special text editing techniques that we 
have available to us.

The Berner-L cannot handle it properly, nor can everyone's email software.

Plain text is what is required to post to the Berner-L so that all of us can 
enjoy all of the posts. When you post in HTML some people will see your 
message, some others will see the message along with an error message, and 
some of us will ONLY see that error message. It seems to have something to 
do with the way that the List Proc sends out the messages and the way your 
email software displays what it gets.

Anyway, please learn how to post in plain text. If you are on AOL 7.0 or 
later, I can tell you right now that you will have to go to www.aol.com to 
post that way. AOL helpfully removed the ability to post in plain text from 
their recent releases.

Other email software often has an option for HTML, Rich Text, or Plain Text 
formats. Please select plain text as your default for the List. My 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] address I use with MS Outlook. When I recieve an HTML 
email and then reply to it, my reply is in HTML. I have to switch it to 
plain text.

I do not know all of the different email software out there, and I can't 
tell each of you how to post in HTML. But I'll be happy to try to help you 
figure it out! If you aren't sure, then send me email at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll let you know if it's in HTML or not.

I know of one person that is posting in plain text, but error messages are 
still generated. I have no idea what is causing this, and can only guess 
that the email is being treated as an attachment somehow - also a no-no.

In case you're wondering, the scrubbing software at the List Proc that 
causes this issue was put in place to stop the viruses we were getting so 
many of last year. That part seems to have worked just perfectly!

Thank you all for your help and persistance in resolving some of these 
anomalies,

Pat Long, a babysat Gabby ( Luther)
Berner-L Co-Owner
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Re: chronic ear problems

2002-11-22 Thread Michaela Simmons
Hi Carol

I can't speak form personal experience but one of my friend's Berners used
to suffer mercilessly from chronic ear problems. For years on end. Like you,
she exhausted the whole antibiotic-drops- ear salves- etc- range and
although all these things helped for a little while, nothing really cured
the problem. UNTIL she heard of a product called  THORNIT , which is a
powder ( some kind of natural herbal remedy). She absolutely swears by it
and everyone else I know who has tried it thinks it's nothing short of
miraculous either. Now and then, my friend's Berner's ear still get a bit
itchy/gunky and after a couple of doses with this powder the ears look( and
smell) just fine.

here is a link http://www.championpets.co.uk/ears.htm which might explain
the product better. Or, alternatively, you could do a search on
www.dogpile.com under the search term  Thornit and you'll find lots of
info.

I have no connection whatsoever with this product, but I have seen first
hand how helpful it is. If you can't get it in the USA, I could always send
you some!

All the best

Michaela, Harvey  Rupert
Devon/UK




Re: Understanding HD/ED Ratings

2002-11-22 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
Hi Karen,

I will try to help you with this.
There are many pedigrees where you will see dog's with ratings from foreign
registries.
Most of those system's ratings can be found here:

http://www.malinut.com/do/hd.shtml

GDC had a hip rating as Normal but it was either EN= Excellent Normal,
GN=Good Normal, or AN= Acceptable Normal.

FCI rates hips as:

A1 = our OFA Excellent
A2 = our OFA Good
B1=  our OFA Fair
B2= our OFA Borderline
C1 = our OFA Mild Dysplasia
C2 = our OFA Mild Dysplasia
D1= our OFA Moderate Dysplasia
D2 = our OFA Moderate Dysplasia
E1 = our OFA Severe Dysplasia
E2 = our OFA Severe Dysplasia

It is my understanding that whatever the lower hip rating is, that is the
rating the dog receives.

In some foreign pedigrees you will see something simillar to this:

A2/C2 - My understanding of that rating would be left hip graded A-2 (our
good) right hip graded C/2 (our mild HD) But, I have asked the Berner-L's
new Sweedish friend Cecilia to give me a definitive answer on this as
Sweeden now goes by FCI ratings.

Switzerland gives:

 HD Frei = HD Free (compares to our Good  Excellent.)
 I = Fair/Borderline/Mild
 II = Moderate HD
 III   = Severe HD

Sometimes you see HD +/- or HD -/+
That means one or the other hip was affected, one was clear.

Some pedigrees you see people have just listed HD- or HD Normal  left out
the actual grade because they are attempting to make the hip ratings more
uniform and easy to read, or the only info they have on the foreign dogs is
HD - or HD frei.
As far as I can see a dog that has a HD D rating with/without a 1 or 2 would
be comparable to our rating of Moderate HD.

Hope this is of some help, and if anyone who knows these foreign systems
better than I spots any mistakes in their ratings vs ours, please correct
me.  :  )

Bernerly,

Mary

Jeff  Mary Chapdelaine
SnoBear Berners
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Griffin has Erhlichiosis!

2002-11-22 Thread Cecilia Ståhl
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Rescue Dog Convoy

2002-11-22 Thread Pat Long

posted in plain text for Maria:

I am trying to help Ellen with this rescue.

We are still in dire need of people to drive Teddy to his forever home!
We have pieces of the trip but big gaps and time is running out.  The Akron 
Ohio to his home leg looks good for Saturday if we can get him from Elk Horn 
Wisconsin to Akron Ohio.
Time is of the essence.  We are running out of it very fast.  I work tonight 
and Ellen is at work now. Anyone who can help can contact me for her either 
via email or phone
Thank you so much,

Maria  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(412) 369-4433

Ellen  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Wake Up Call

2002-11-22 Thread dvick . willbeck
Michigan, 6:30am Friday morning, four inches of freshly fallen snow. 
I'm tired yet awake enough to let the dogs - who can hardly contain 
themselves - outside.  I put them out and head for the kitchen and some 
breakfast.  As I munch on my toast I gaze out the kitchen window across 
the countryside at the freshly fallen snow.  The darkness of the early 
morning is eliminated by the snow covered fields and the trees sparkle.  
I must admit to myself, that as much as I despise the winter months, I 
can't help but admire the beauty outside my window.

Then, suddenly, WHAM!  There's a extremely muddy Berner plastered 
against the kitchen window smearing mud everywhere!  My tea and toast go 
flying, my heart skipped several beats and I check to see if I wet 
myself!   I scream OFF at the top of my lungs, run to the door where 
I'm greeted by an extremely wet, muddy, angelic Bueford.  Oh no, no, no, 
not another crater.  I slip my coat on over my bathrobe and head outside 
to survey the area for damage; down spouts are pulled off the house, 
nothing new there; water bucket upside-down and empty, normal.   I walk 
further along the side of the house to the drive and am stopped dead in 
my tracks by what I see before me.   There in the gravel drive is my 
husbands parked car covered with four inches of snow and it looks as if  
something has been trying to dig it up!   I look down at Bueford 
standing beside me,  panting hard and covered with the evidence.  Oh, 
he's proud of this one.   I scream, NAUGHTY pointing at the trench 
around the car,  what were you thinking, have you totally lost it. 
All dogs are now in the down position, hanging their heads in shame, as 
I stand in the driveway ranting and raving.  Suddenly, I hear a noise 
coming from under the car.  Oh, for crap sake, The Black Cat is under 
the car!!  I stare back in horror at my beloved Berner boy Bueford - who 
actually thought he could dig the cat out from under the car!!  

What's a mother to do. . .

- Denise





List Messages

2002-11-22 Thread Karyn Waugh
I'm just curious, does anyone else get the digest form of the list and if 
so, do you have any problems with not all the messages showing up?  I notice 
that quite alot of the messages never get posted on the digest form.  I get 
a funny message about HTML in where the message should be.

I'm wondering if there is anyway for me to correct that in my mailbox?  This 
is something I only started noticing using my hotmail.  Back when I use to 
get this list at my home mailbox, about a year ago, I never had this 
problem.

Thanks,
Karyn





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Re: List Messages - ADMIN: Plain Text versus HTML

2002-11-22 Thread Pat Long

You see? This is what I'm talking about!! I am NOT making it up!! As a 
matter of fact, I'm going to forward what it is that many of us see when you 
post in HTML. I'll remove the culprit's name to protect the insolent, I mean 
innocent.

Pat


From: Karyn Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: List Messages

I'm just curious, does anyone else get the digest form of the list and if 
so, do you have any problems with not all the messages showing up?  I 
notice that quite alot of the messages never get posted on the digest form. 
 I get a funny message about HTML in where the message should be.

I'm wondering if there is anyway for me to correct that in my mailbox?  
This is something I only started noticing using my hotmail.  Back when I 
use to get this list at my home mailbox, about a year ago, I never had this 
problem.

Thanks,
Karyn



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Griffin has Erlichiosis!

2002-11-22 Thread Cecilia Ståhl
Four days on the list and I'm already asking for help ... My 3 year old
intact male, Griffin, was diagnosed today with Erhlichiosis. He had had a
very tiny nosebleed, no other symptoms and to be on the safe side, I took
him in earlier this week for the vet to check him over. I had had him on a
tick repellent, Frontline Vet, but did find the odd tick on him this summer.
The results arrived this morning. My vet (I love her for being so smart) has
prescribed oral Doxicycline 550 mg/day for 3 weeks. She said that all his
other blood work was completely normal, but that he had very high titres for
Ehrlichia. I have read through the material at the BMD Health Links site and
well, frankly, I'm even more scared now than I was before I read through
them. Has anyone on the list had any experience with this? Is there anything
else besides the antibiotics that I can give him to help him beat this?

Thanks in advance,
Cecilia Ståhl
Stockholm, Sweden




ADMIN: message was posted in HTML

2002-11-22 Thread Pat Long

This is all that I receive at this email address when someone posts to the 
List with HTML or with attachments. Please don't ask me to repost it for you 
in plain text, because I never got the original message to be able to do 
that. You have to resend it to me privately so that I can post it in plain 
text.

Is there anyone who still does not understand this?

Pat



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RE: Article on Origins (DNA) of Dogs - Also in the Wall Street Journal

2002-11-22 Thread Nancy Melone
If you miss this version, a similar article appeared in today's Wall Street
Journal (front page of MarketPlace section) on page B1.

-Original Message-
From: george hasenauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 3:36 AM
To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List
Subject: Washington Post Article


Hi,
Thought some of you might be interested in a article appearing today in the
Washington Post about the origins of the human-dog relationship.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23596-2002Nov21.html

You can get the entire story if you go on today. After a day or two, there
is a charge for a full article.

Sharon Hasenauer
Silver Spring, Maryland




AKC CHF Raffle.

2002-11-22 Thread jean cheesman
Hi All,

Just a reminder for those of you who have not yet entered this raffle for
these two beautiful Berner paintings donated by Willem, tomorrow is the
closing day!!

http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/CHF/

OK, I have a big interest here 'cause one of 'em is my Mr Mischief Sam as an
eight week old puppy looking so sweet and innocent whilst wrecking my
plants. Willem has captured him so beautifully! Yaspar, subject of the other
painting, is Willem's current Berner Dingo's Sire! Oh, so handsome!

 Please take a look and get your tickets now, the winners of this Raffle are
gonna be very happy people!

All love,

Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang
X
(And Mr Rainbow Sam)
http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm




Berner Parade on MS TV?

2002-11-22 Thread KendyBo
Sorry about the wrong info about the Ridgefield Berner Parade. I thought we 
were told it would be aired today, but it wasn't.

Does anyone know when it will be on?

Kendra




FW: Berner-L Histio RollCall

2002-11-22 Thread Auger, Meg (MN14)



If you're interested, add yours to the List.

  
Hannibal, 7/29/88 - 5/23/93, loved by Pat Long, Berwyn PA

Toby 6/29/97 - 6/30/00, loved by Sid  Liz Steinweg, Colorado Springs CO

Ria, 2/4/98 - ll/4/02, loved by Mary and Lou Norris, Manassas, VA
 
Arrow - 2/14/97 - 12/8/98, loved by Carol  Ken Lingley, Ijamsville, MD

Baraka, 7/4/94 - 7/1/01, loved by Debbie Sharlow, Victor  NY

Pelli  1/10/92 - 4/12/00  loved by Meg Auger, Eagan, MN




Re: Honoring Seniors

2002-11-22 Thread jean cheesman
Would love to add a current dog to this roll call, but my eldest dog at the
moment is Sweet Sunny Girl aged eight! Have also Simmy at three and adoptee
Barney at four.

Honoring Seniors is very special to me, lost my first ever Berner, Tinka, a
few weeks short of her fourteenth birthday!

Biggest Berner Hugs You All and Special Hugs the Seniors!

All Love,

Jean, Sunny, Sim, Barney and the Gang
X
http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm




Re: Dog Food

2002-11-22 Thread Kelly
My question would be is this added to the food or being added because they
are using euthanized pets in their food and it's getting into the food
through these pets.


No it is from euthanized cattle and horses that have been processed for the
food. It is not being added by hand.

Kelly Weir
Michigan
http://home.twmi.rr.com/skylinebmd/index.html/hopeindex.htm




RE: AKC CHF Raffle.

2002-11-22 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Of course, if I know Joye (and I do), then she's probably going to allow
procrastinators all next week to get their donations in - I'll bet all
you need to do is to let her know that they are on their way!!

Joye - mine should be in the mail if you don't have it already!!!

Pat Long, a babysat Gabby ( Luther)
Berwyn PA




Re: Dog Food

2002-11-22 Thread Kelly
Here is the link to the Fox 2 News web site www.wjbk.com .

Kelly Weir 
Michigan
http://home.twmi.rr.com/skylinebmd/index.html/hopeindex.htm




Learning lessons the hard way...

2002-11-22 Thread catherine green
Vicky Whitney wrote --
(No lectures, please, on how I should have been doing this since he was
a
baby puppy -- I've learned my lesson, and make a solemn oath that I'll
do so
with the NEXT puppy.  Damn, I hate learning lessons the hard way .  .  .
)

Same goes for me! Except that I completely freaked out when I was
clipping Mickey's claws at about 7 months and I cut one too short and he
started bleeding. So now, even with some counter-conditioning and
positive reinforcement and desensitization, he STILL gets very goosey
about nail trims. He KNOWS what I'm up to with all that peanut butter
and praise. he just looks at me like I think he's stupid or something.
Such characters!

I'll be interested to hear if anyone has tried an anxiety wrap technique
for nail trims.
And, next puppy, I'll do things much differently!

Catherine in Madison WI
Shadow, Mickey, Jenny  Canoe




Re: Dog Food

2002-11-22 Thread nbmws6
I have this link that was posted a few weeks ago.
http://www.doglogic.com/petsinfood.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Dog Food


 Here is the link to the Fox 2 News web site www.wjbk.com .
 
 Kelly Weir 
 Michigan
 http://home.twmi.rr.com/skylinebmd/index.html/hopeindex.htm
 




How to post in Plain Text if you are AOL

2002-11-22 Thread JSTELMAK
The process if very simple:

1.  Verify you are typing your message in Arial font
2.  Type your message
3.  Highlight your message (left click and drag the length of the message). 
 
4.  Put the cursor someone on the highlighted message and right click.  A 
small window will appear.  Scroll up to Text then over to Normal.  Select 
Normal.
5.  Deliver your message by selecting the usual Send Now icon MAKING sure 
the test is still highlighted when you sent it.

I hope this solves some problems.

Sincerely,

Julene Stelmak
Manhattan Beach, CA




RE: Learning lessons the hard way...

2002-11-22 Thread Patricia McIlveen
One time (c. 1989) I clipped my bulldog girl's nails and made her
bleed...The next time she was fine.

But.. even with some counter-conditioning and positive reinforcement and
desensitization, *I* still get very goosey about nail trims. I need to
be clicker trained!

Patricia McIlveen (Yeoman, Reba  Gus)
Calgary, AB
 

-Original Message-
From: catherine green

I cut one too short and he started bleeding. So now, even with some
counter-conditioning and positive reinforcement and desensitization, he
STILL gets very goosey about nail trims. 




Re: Understanding HD/ED Ratings

2002-11-22 Thread Marion Brown
This is my understanding of the Swiss system, and I am open to correction!

Since 1st January 1992 : HD A = Clear, HD B = Transitional, HD C = Mild, HD
D  E = Severe and not permitted for breeding.

ED 0 = Free (Clear), ED 1 = Light, ED 2  3 = Severe and not permitted for
breeding.

I think that the FCI system if it is applied by more countries will be a
very useful guideline for us to work with.

The system used in Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland and Germany (and maybe
others) where a breeding value for each dog is assessed and used to work out
whether potentially a dog will be likely to be beneficial to the breed is, I
believe, very useful. It seems that the countries where the Breed Club has
most control over what happens to their breed are being more effective in
achieving their objectives.

Just mho

Marion Brown
Teversal Bernese Mountain Dogs
South Africa
Dogs Never Lie About Love (Jeffrey Masson)




Re: Dog Food

2002-11-22 Thread Ray Pat Burgett
One must read all of the reports as this story of cats and dogs in dog food
has been around for a long time.

The following is from the FDA report on testing of Pet Foods.

Despite suspicions that pentobarbital may come from euthanized dogs and
cats from animal shelters, the FDA says DNA tests on the products show no
sign of dogs or cats.

The same report list three of the foods that tested for Phenobarbital.

So one had to read all of the reports at the Government FDA site to get the
full story. Not just what NEWS stations want to report.

To use the term feed Kibbles is a very broad statement as their are many
very good kibbles on the market
that pose no threat of any kind to our Dogs or Cats.
I do not think the Whole Dog Journal would list the top 10 Dog Foods in the
Journal if they felt for one moment that they were dangerous to our Pets.

Ray Burgett


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