Had Enough
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Re: Whats so special?
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Melkfett
Sylvia, I asked Christl about findingMelkfett, or a substitute, in the U.S. She tells me that "Bag Balm" is very close to melkfett with an additional aromatic ingredient (Eucalyptus or menthol, something like that) but will work just as well (just don't get it in your eyes).It can be found on-line atveterinary supply companies. Several folks on the list swear by it. Tim Christl with Gandalf Baerli Domain Bernois Nimes, France (temporarily writing from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia)Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
Acupuncture appointment
First of all, thank to everyone who took the time to share their experience with acupuncture. Everyone who had acupuncture recommended for their dogs' problem, reported success! Some reported more dramatic results than others, but everyone reported benefit! Zeus had his pre-acupuncture x rays yesterday. Good news is that his cruciates are intact, bad news is that he has significant progression of HD. We have our appointment with the acupuncture vet next Monday. We will keep the L updated on our progress. Hoping to share a success story. Karen Jacobs in MI with Zeus (and Titan too)
Re: Melkfett
Perhaps Udder Balm ? http://udderbalm.com/what.html Bernd Günter Germany
Re: Rally
You can even be penalized (or in extreme cases excused) for NOT praising your dog enough! -nearly the opposite of current AKC- obedience!;-) where you can't talk to your dog except in-between exercises... this is a more natural way of working with your dog- filled with encouragement; and handler antics too! It is fast paced' and free flowing from one exercise to the next. The judge says begin; and exercise finished (to start and stop the clock...) You must do the exercises in order- but it is usually laid out pretty clearly -if you understand the signs!- meaning after a spiral you should be facing a particular direction in which case you will see the next sign... It's a lot of fun- the way obedience should be ~Rebecca (owned by Bernese since 1989) Canine-Corner from hair to heel Grooming Training Red Hook, NY www.canine-cornerbmd.com and/or Mid-Hudson Kennel Association, Ltd. Referral Chair/Instructor www.wiltwyck.com/mhka A DOG IS THE ONLY RELATIVE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE SO CHOOSE WISELY! - Original Message - From: Marjie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Rally Susan Berlin wrote: Okay, I give up: what's a Rally? snip Rally obedience...Rally-O... praise is considered a requirement and a happy, brisk, enthusiastic performance will get you a high score (and more fun.) snip --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by Webjogger's AntiVirus Protection System]
Birthday Girl !!
Lsin's Hurricane Hannah turns 2 today ! Thanks , Sindi , for a wonderful year with our first berner area rug :-). She'll be spoiled all day (like she is everyday) !! Laurie Montoya w/Hannah Banana S. Central PA
2 weeks left to enter the BMDC of Watchung Draft test
I know the weather has been difficult for those of us on the east coast w/the snow, rain mud. Better sledding weather than carting. :0) I just wanted to send out a reminder that entries will be closing on Friday March 21st for the 7th Annual BMDC of Watchung's Draft test. Beth Schmoyer BMDCW Draft Secretary ** Bernese Mountain Dog Club of America DRAFT TEST Seventh Draft Test Hosted by Bernese Mountain Dog Club of Watchung SATURDAY - APRIL 12, 2003 Lebanon Township Memorial Park 530 West Hill Road Glen Gardner, New Jersey 08826 Park Headquarters Telephone: (908) 638-8523 All judging will be outdoors Test hours: 8:30 AM to 4:30 PM Judges Phil Atkinson Barbara Gibson Premium lists may be obtained from Patrick Barlow (908) 766-0293 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Had Enough
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am an avid dog lover and always dreamed of welcoming a berner into my family. However, the experiences I have encountered in speaking with breeders is discouraging. I am a professional, successful woman, mother of three healthy, well taken care of children and am looked at questionably by the interviews I've held so far. I desire a family pet to love, cherish and include in my Highlands Ranch, CO lifestyle. I am not on welfare, take drugs, or leave my children for endless periods of time. However, my ability to be a competent bernese owner is under scrutiny. I am now saddened and disappointed that I may have to either resort to a puppy mill or chose an entirely different breed in order to provide a loving home for a new family member. What exactly are you looking for anyway? What questions did you find off-putting? Typically responsible breeders *do* ask a great number of questions. Oftentimes, the questions are tucked within the initial few conversations but certainly some folks can come across as being more than a wee bit judgementally militant. ;-) What in particular especially troubled you? Questions? Attitude? Something else? I am sure when one calls a breeder and thinks they are a shoo-in for the bestest home possibly available, even some mild questions can take some aback. Interestingly enough, even some innocent comments from an otherwise wonderful prospective home can make a *breeder* shut-down, in a manner of speaking. I have given up homes for what may seem insignificant things but I have to sleep well at night knowing my puppies are safe. Some other breeders have subsequently sold to those homes with mixed results. As for being 'forced to' get a puppy mill pup No one can make you do anything you don't want. It's up to you to weigh the ethical, emotional and financial costs of going this route. All my hopes, Vicky and the Horde =P~ Seleya
lawn fertilizer question
With all the snow still on the ground around here - including Thursday's fresh 3 inches it's crazy to be thinking about green grass, but does anyone remember the name of the lawn fertilizer product that is made from, I think, corn? that Stacey Goodman had told us about on the L probably 2 or 3 years ago?? If I have it right, you can put it into one of those little carts that you push around to distribute lawn care stuff onto the grass - it's not chemical, all natural? Ringing a bell for anyone? I'm not concerned about brown spots, just something to feed the lawn. Thanks. Libby Kesner and the Berner girls of Maine Voorheesville NY USA
Climbing the walls
Hi gang! This is nuts I'll admit but I am climbing the walls thinking about my Berner! We are still waiting to see if the breeders female is actually expecting, apparently there is a 30 day waiting periord after the actual mating to determine pregnancy? I'm packing up the kids today to go visit Bernie my sisters Golden! I'm 44 yrs old and feel like a kid on Christmas Morning waiting for my new puppy! If in fact the female is in a motherly way I will not have a pup until JUNE! Does anybody need a berner sitter I'M AVAILABLE!! Kenny
Re: Whelping Box plans
Our boxes are a bit different in that they are quite large but divided into two parts, one where mum and the pups are housed and the other part becomes a potty box when the pups are able to crawl through the hole into the sub-division. I suppose the nursing box part is about 1 m x 75 cms (+- 40 inches by 30 inches) and an important thing is that the potty box has different floor covering to encourage the pups to go there. The nursing box has its pet bed (vet bed) covering and the potty box has its newspapers. It is surprising how quickly they learn to go and do their business in the potty box! When the litter has left home the whelping box (which is made of chipboard) is cleaned and sanitised and when it is dry it is left to air, and finally when another litter is due we coat the box with linseed oil which helps to waterproof it against all those little accidents. The plans for this box are to be found in a book on Rottweilers by that wonderful lady Muriel Freeman Marion Brown Teversal Bernese Mountain Dogs South Africa Dogs Never Lie About Love (Jeffrey Masson)
Lily is growing up
A bit of a brag a sweet story: Lily earned her third leg for her CD in Feb. at the Denver show. Three shows, three legs with nice score of two 184 and 191. (I am either too hard on myself or the AKC judges are lightening up with scoring...these were really good scores for our ring performance). Lily is also now a registered therapy dog (TD,Inc.) and has begun to go to school with me (rotating with Hank) and is part of the Paws For Reading program at our local elementary school. Sweet story: I had introduced Lily, told the kids a bit about her, and asked that they help us out (remembering library manners, etc.) because this was new for Lily. When reading time began, one little boy placed himself beside Lily, just petting and giving an occassional smooch. The librarian finally came over reminded him that he could/should get a book to read to Lily. His reply was, Oh no. I'm taking care of her today. This is her first time here and I must help her be happy here. I wonder who needed who more... Certainly is a win-win situation in any case. Jeanne
Re: Had Enough
Dear author of Had Enough- Sorry to refer to you that way, but you didn't sign your e-mail and I don't know what else to call you. I think you should consider yourself fortunate that it's apparent to you that the breeders you've contacted are not the right ones for you. Have any of them told you what criteria they have that you're not meeting? I share the information you requested below, not because I will have a puppy for you one day, but because you asked for the info. As far as what criteria I have for puppy buyers here goes. I want in a puppy a person with common sense, a desire to work WITH me rather than a know-it-all type, with confidence and who is respectful of others because I believe these are reflected in their dog, preferably flexed household schedules where the dog will not be left for more than 8 hours routinely, well managed and behaved children if they exist in the family, the where-with-all to care for this expensive-to-own breed, a fenced (physical barrier) yard, willingness to radiograph hips and elbows at age 2 and to neuter the dog before age 1, a commitment to training this large breed to be respectful of humans and other creatures, commitment to properly exercise the dog daily. Experience with training large breeds successfully is preferred but not required. Ruth Reynolds - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:22 AM Subject: Had Enough I am now saddened and disappointed that I may have to either resort to a puppy mill or chose an entirely different breed in order to provide a loving home for a new family member. What exactly are you looking for anyway?
Re: Climbing the walls
Dear Kenny I know that feeling well because I experienced it when I was anxiously awaiting the birth of my berner boy Ozzie. What I did was went out and bought myself a stuffed berner toy dog. That stuffed berner sat in my family room where I spent quite a bit of my time. Obviously it is not like the real thing (no shedding, and didn't have to be house trained) but it kept me calm until my Ozzie came home with me. Hope this helps. Sheryl and Ozzie Richmond Hill, Ontario From: Kenneth L Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Climbing the walls Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 09:33:19 -0500 Hi gang! This is nuts I'll admit but I am climbing the walls thinking about my Berner! We are still waiting to see if the breeders female is actually expecting, apparently there is a 30 day waiting periord after the actual mating to determine pregnancy? I'm packing up the kids today to go visit Bernie my sisters Golden! I'm 44 yrs old and feel like a kid on Christmas Morning waiting for my new puppy! If in fact the female is in a motherly way I will not have a pup until JUNE! Does anybody need a berner sitter I'M AVAILABLE!! Kenny _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
bone lodged in throat
Sorry to hear of your poor baby's misfortune eating the bone. You had great insight to go to emergency. I think this is one of my worst fears---letting them enjoy (bones, running lose) vs danger. I hope everything gets back to normal. Hugs to both of you. Happy Trails, Jeannie in Michigan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: Climbing the walls
Stella wrote: What I did was went out and bought myself a stuffed berner toy dog. That stuffed berner sat in my family room where I spent quite a bit of my time. Obviously it is not like the real thing (no shedding, and didn't have to be house trained) I bet it didn't eat any remote controls, either! Martha Hoverson and Molly (Mom, I didn't eat them. I only *chewed* them.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Portland, Maine From: stella logan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Climbing the walls Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 10:38:44 -0500 Dear Kenny I know that feeling well because I experienced it when I was anxiously awaiting the birth of my berner boy Ozzie. What I did was went out and bought myself a stuffed berner toy dog. That stuffed berner sat in my family room where I spent quite a bit of my time. Obviously it is not like the real thing (no shedding, and didn't have to be house trained) but it kept me calm until my Ozzie came home with me. Hope this helps. Sheryl and Ozzie Richmond Hill, Ontario From: Kenneth L Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Climbing the walls Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 09:33:19 -0500 Hi gang! This is nuts I'll admit but I am climbing the walls thinking about my Berner! We are still waiting to see if the breeders female is actually expecting, apparently there is a 30 day waiting periord after the actual mating to determine pregnancy? I'm packing up the kids today to go visit Bernie my sisters Golden! I'm 44 yrs old and feel like a kid on Christmas Morning waiting for my new puppy! If in fact the female is in a motherly way I will not have a pup until JUNE! Does anybody need a berner sitter I'M AVAILABLE!! Kenny _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Melkfett
Thank you all for the links. Udder Balm is what I was looking for. Melkfett is used for milking cows. Don't like Bag Balm, because it has the Eucalyptus is. Thought I had some around here, just not sure if I want to put this on my sore nose. Getting over the flu made me realize that the home made cream just worked the best and was ohhh so gentle. I'll look into the other links also. Maybe it's easier to just buy the whole done product. Thank you so much Sylvia Katvala Tucson, AZ
Re: Melkfett
Melkfett is used for milking cows. And, by some, or so I am told, as a lubricant when mating dogs. ;-) Bernd Günter Germany
RE: Premier Pet Insurance
Hi Pat, I would ask the company what conditions they include in congenital anomaly! Sounds like a catch all for a lot of exclusions. The premiums sound very cheap so question if your premiums go up and how much if you make a claim, and is there a co-insurance. Rose -Original Message- From: P. Buickerood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 7, 2003 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Premier Pet Insurance We are anticipating the adoption of a Berner puppy in our household w/in the next few months and we will be getting Pet Health Insurance. Unlike the other company frequently mentioned on the list Premier Pet Insurance plans do not exclude hereditary diseases or breed specific conditions although they do have an exclusion for congenital anomaly. I'm guessing that an umbilical hernia might fall into that category. Their least expensive plan is $12.65 a month and covers basic preventive care, spaying and neutering and illness up to $8000 a year. Has anyone in the US had experience with the Premier Pet Insurance plans? = Patricia Buickerood __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
RE: puppy feeding
Hi Mark, There is some contradiction in your post. While not believing in one thing you go on in your next sentence that your rational is type of food. Large breed formulas are nearer to maintenance levels in protein and fat than other puppy and growth formulas. I used to recommend feeding adult maintenance and had shop assistants educating my owners and on more than one occasion stepped in to stop the feeding of rocket fuel growth formulas whose protein and fat levels were more suited to a cat's metabolism! Genetics will determine the outcome of health, wise management and good feeding practices will enhance it. I don't think anyone is suggesting a certain food will guarantee good joints but if you feed a high caloric food into a puppy you will get problems. Rose T.
RE: Advise needed from the L on a sick dog
Hi Erin, Where is the bone now? Was it surgically removed from his stomach or just pushed into his stomach? Rose T. -Original Message- From: Erin Bradmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 7, 2003 5:48 PM To: Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Advise needed from the L on a sick dog Last night at around 10:00 PM Guinness, my year and half-old puppy, was chewing on a composite bone. I saw it was getting down to the point when normally I would take it away, but thought it was still safe (the bone was bigger than my fist) A few minutes later I heard him making scary noises, I ran over and he was obviously choking. I tried to open his mouth to see if I could find the bone, but nothing. He then started to vomit. Nothing came up but a lot of liquid. My husband thought he was fine because he started to breathe normally, but I just knew something was wrong. We loaded him into the car and drove him to the emergency 24 hour vet which is about 30 minutes from us. By the time we got there he was active but whining and kept hiding his face in my jacket. The Vet did X rays and found the huge bone lodged at the base of his throat. We decided to do a scope to try and push it threw his stomach. Guinness got out of surgery at about 1:30 AM this morning. I left the hospital after surgery, but returned during visiting hours at 9:00 to check on him. The vets think he will be able to go home tonight. He is drinking water, ate the food offered to him, is using the bathroom and is acting pretty perky. (Perky for dog who just went threw hell night) My question is this: the doctor mentioned that there could still be swelling for 3-5 month after the operation which could close off his esophagus. Does anyone know anything about this? Or what we can do to minimize his risk? Second, the vet mentioned that he needs to be on soft food for a week, can anyone recommend some good soft food that I can give him? Thank you Erin and Guinness (I feel really, really bad on top of the worst sleepless night of my life, please be gentle about me not taking the bone away sooner, or giving it to him in the first place)
RE: Conflicting advice....Im so confused
Hi Jenn, Speaking as a breeder my recommendation is to follow the advice of your breeder, she is the one who has raised Berners and knows what works best for her line of dogs. Most vets get virtually no training on nutrition and just because your vet owns a Berner does not make her an expert on raising them. Rose T.
Re: Had Enough
Excellent Post! Sue Sanvido . I have given up homes for what may seem insignificant things but I have to sleep well at night knowing my puppies are safe. As for being 'forced to' get a puppy mill pup No one can make you do anything you don't want. It's up to you to weigh the ethical, emotional and financial costs of going this route. All my hopes, Vicky and the Horde =P~ Seleya
10 things that irritate dogs
Got this from another list I'm on, thought it was funny, am passing it along, Franny in SC 1.Blaming your farts on me...not funny...not funny. 2. Yelling at me for barking... I'M A FRIGGIN' DOG YOU IDIOT!! 3. Taking me for a walk, then not letting me check stuff out. Exactly who's walk is this anyway? 4. Any trick that involves balancing food on my nose...stop it. 5. Any haircut that involves bows or ribbons. Now you know why we chew your stuff up when you're not home. 6. The sleight of hand, fake fetch throw. You fooled a dog! What a proud moment for the top of the food chain, you nitwit. 7. Taking me to the vet for the big snip, then acting surprised when I freak out every time we go back. 8. Getting upset when I sniff the crotches of your guests. Sorry but I haven't quite mastered that handshake thing yet. 9. How you act disgusted when I lick myself. Look, we both know the truth, you're just jealous. 10. Dog sweaters. Have you noticed the fur? Imbecile.
Innotek sonic flea repellant disks
I goofed! The Innotek sonic flea repellant disks came from Dr. Foster and Smith, not KV Vet. Sorry for my error. The link is below. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=12pCatId=1256 Gail Miller Cynosure Bernese in Arkansas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Removing ticks
Wow, it's only the beginning of March and already we had to remove a tick from Sisco today. May I prevail on the good nature of our resident vet(s) to outline a definitive proper procedure to remove ticks attached to a dog. My research on the net turned up as many instructions as a dog has fleas! (not our Berners, of course ;-). Some sources say to use all kinds of stuff from oil to vaseline to alcohol to insecticide (shudder) to prep the little bu**ers before pulling them off; and others say to use nothing because all this stuff dabbed on them will cause them to deposit more mouth juices into the wound. Even among the experts there seem to be diametrically opposed procedures. Fran Sisco (ouch! get that danged thing off me, mom!) -- Fran Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] SportSound Music:http://www.geocities.com/franinvancouver Phone: 604-926-0084 Fax: 604-926-9543
Re: Had Enough (What?)
I find this a distrubing email when you look at the AOL profile for the sender. Below is what I found. **Name: If you're Italian, you'll read it in the screen name **Location: Colorado **Sex: Female **Marital Status: beautifully single **Hobbies Interests: I'm very social and love to make new friends. **Visiting my neighborhood bar, playing pool, watching football and **hockey, receiving flowers and phone calls from that special someone, **weekend getaways, vacations in mexico and vegas - and oh yeah - **hot tubs! **Favorite Gadgets: Varies **Occupation: Numerous **Personal Quote: Know who you are and always know who you're **dealing with.
WOW -- natural fertilizer
Libby, It is WOW or WOW Plus by Gardens Alive http://www.gardensalive.com/ Pat Tackett Texas __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: What's so special?
Kenny, Well, to begin, I could go on and on and on, but I won't. What's so special about Berners is the connection they are able to make with their people, and the effort they put into that relationship. I have two- Jackson who is 2, and Sallie who is 1. They are very different dogs, and Jackson is definitely mine. We sort of cling to each other- I'm pretty much his Mommie and his is surely my sweet first-born son. I suppose this type of relationship is possible with any dog, so again, What's So Special? Jackson has the ability to sense my feelings and knows how to act accordingly (more so than my husband!). When I am happy, he is thrilled and playful and starts games. When I am upset or frustrated, he stays patiently by my side letting me know I am not alone. (But not too close!) When I am sad and going through overwhelming times, my Jackson lays on the couch with me, his head in my lap and has a way of letting me know he loves me always. This year I lost my son, late in my pregnancy. Jackson was there for me every minute. He was so obviously sad for me. But I swear there were times I caught him looking just so sad, and I knew he was sad for himself too. These guys are simply amazing. There may be health problems, but noone comes with a guarantee of long life. It is so worth it to have what may be a few short incredible years with a Berner. Good luck with your decision, Kendra, Jackson, and Sallie
hyperextended knees
Hi all, I'm hoping for some advice. You may remember Sallie's story, but here's a long story short: We got her from a family that was feeling overwhelmed by her at 6 months old. She came to us with undiagnosed Chronic Lyme's, two rear leg injuries, poor nutrition, no obedience. We cleared up the Lyme's greatly improved the diet, including Glycoflex for her knees, and taught her to be a polite citizen. She has had badly bowed back legs since we got her. They had been very loose, but they are not anymore. Recently, I've noticed that her back legs are also hyperextending at the knees. Instead of bending forward as they had and should, they are now vitually straight. She does not have any pain, and this doesn't effect her gait or any movement. i am wondering how worried I should be and if there is anything I can do toimprove her condition. The vet had no suggestions. As I said, she is getting joint support supplements and plenty of exercise. Thank you, Kendra, Jackson, and Sallie Carmel, NY
breakaway collars
Just thought I'd let you all know, I just got my break away collars. They are very well made and came really quickly. I've realized in the past couple of days just how lucky we were with Sallie and Pecan's accident. It could very easily have gone the other way and we would be mourning the loss of my sweet little girl. I highly recommend these collars to all. One less thing to worry about! kendra, Jackson, and Sallie
A excite game
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Re: BERNER-L digest 4281
Dear Marion, your advise was excellent provided both dog owners go for the rear legs or throw water grab at the same time pull their dogs out! But as you probably know this is not always the case! We now own a Berner(male) Newf (girl). My past dog , a wonderful English Shepard was attacked by an Akita whose owner (an Idiot) did not respond but I guess enjoyed his dogs macho behavior! Luckily, we got our Bruno out of there! He had some stitches disallusions about being too friendly but we were lucky to turn it around. Unfortunately, this does not always happen! Although our Bernese are large ( so is my Newfie) Some have no bad vibes or any aggression issues! I who don't want my guys stretching their limits enjoy having them where I trust them with kids, patients staff of all ages at nursing homes, with people we meet in the street! My dogs are sound I trust them with myself others but one never knows when a situation can arise to throw it all out the window! Humans (god help us ) are not predictable.. Just take a look! Sometimes our Canine peers can set a better example! Thanks for your info experience, Diana, Theo(the Bernese) Emma (The Newfie) Both age 7 no aggression issues!
Re: BERNER-L digest 4281
Marion, I am in the states in Redmond, WA(Microsoft Boeing area) Anyyhow I was told by my Bernese's breeder's vet (who is in Canada) that the glucosamine condrotin formula for humans is the better one but that was about 4-5yrs ago. Both my Bernese (who has elbow dysplasia #3) in his front left paw is not disabled unless he runs jumps to much(he is 7 yrs.) newfie (7yrs.) Who has had hip knee surgeries are on it quite active. They also take MSM, they've been on it for a few yrs! It kind of stabilizes them so they don't need other drugs such as rimadyl etc. I buy them the human version so far so good! Take care good luck with your decisions! I take it too after surgery on a meniscus tear was giving me trouble! Just stated so will let you know my results in 3-4 months! All our best, Diana Theo (the Bernese) Emma (The Newfie)
Re: Removing ticks
I used to 'unscrew' ticks---must be turned counterclockwise with slight pulling pressure. That way you get the head out. Any more with big wiggly black dogs, I just grab the tick yank it off. Usually the head comes out with the tick, but if not, when the scab forms, the tick's head will come off with the scab. I've never had a problem if the tick comes out headless. T he other day, I did just remove a small male wood tick that was imbedded in the back of my neck, but I won't gross you out with that story!!! That's what happens when one 'lies with dogs!!! Kathy Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windraider Kennels California www.windraiderkennels.com Bernese Mtn Dogs - Int Am BIS Can CH Windraider's Black Oak v Bevs , HIT, CGC, TDI Tobin Windraider's Manjula v Bev's Jul Windraider's Seven Seas Briggand Briggand 11 mo Windraider's Black Oak Conspiracy Brenna 11 mo Flat Coated Retv - Int Am CH Twofold Samba Sam, CGC, TDI Sam (liver-DK imp) Labs Eskie - Scout, Babe Klondike
