Re: drafting

2003-03-14 Thread Barbie Beck-Wilczek and Bill Wilczek - Wilczek Woodworks
Hi Molly,
Congrads on winning the cart..The first rule, NEVER NEVER NEVER put a dog
that doesn't know how to cart and see what happens..Once the dog gets
spooked it will take much longer to get past that stage..Plus he or she
could easily get hurt..
Start by just having your dog wear the harness. Than if no problems put the
traces on and have her just drag the tracesThan add a drag, such as a
small log or detergent bottle filled half way with water...Stay at this
step.. Make big wide turns and go over different surfaces..grass to gravel
to blacktop..

Take very small steps, make the lessons short,but make them fun..
I don't have the room here to give you a  full lesson, but Potomac which is
your local club does have carting workshops.. Just as Watchung on April 6
and Nashoba starting on March 29th.
Some dogs you could get away with hooking up and see what happens, but why
take the chance.. I had trained many dogs to cart from Berners to Goldens to
Chessie's They all can be taught some just take a little longer time
Good luck
Bill Wilczek
Wilczek Woodworks
www.geocities.com/wilczekwoodworks



Re: AKC CHF Malignant Histiocytosis Fundraiser

2003-03-14 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
Thank you, Marjie, for suggesting that people who want to make a donation 
in Dunbar's memory contribute to the current AKC CHF Fundraiser.   You are 
right it is a double win - money donated to this fund will help in 
fighting malignant histiocytosis and also the donor stands a good chance of 
winning one of Willem's wonderful paintings.

I'd like to encourage others who would like to honor the memory of a Berner 
who has lost the battle to histio, or to any other disease, to make a 
donation in that Berner's memory.

Making a donation to the AKC CHF Fundraiser is also a marvelous way to 
honor a Berner who is healthy and to give thanks for their good health. 
Who knows, the life that is saved by this research project might be your 
Berner someday.

Some people honor Berner owners who have done kind things for them by 
donating tickets to that person.   These donations can be done as a gift in 
your name to the person you are honoring or I can notify the person that an 
anonymous donor has made a donation in their name.   Either way, I can tell 
you that people who have received these donations in their honor in the 
past have been thrilled to be recognized and honored in this way.

The other added benefit to making donations in memory or honor of Berners 
or in memory or honor of Berner Friends is that you get a warm, puppy dog 
feeling by doing so.   Won't you please consider doing this for a Berner 
or a Friend?

Here is the website to see how to make donations: 
http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/histio/			
In order to go past our goal of raising over $5,595, we need to raise 
$4,800 in the next three weeks.  So far we have had 20 people make 
donations to our fundraiser.   There are 2021 members of the Berner-l, so I 
would think that we should be able to get a LOT more donations from people 
in the USA and other countries.   We are trying to see how many different 
countries can be represented in our donor list, but We NEED YOUR HELP!!!

Thank you, Willem Wijnberg for your generous donation of two more paintings 
to help us fight malignant histiocytosis.

Thank you, Jean Cheesman for making such a wonderful site to honor those 
Berner who have lost the battle to malignant histiocytosis: 
	http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/histiorollcall.htm

Thank you, Karen Pickel, for doing yet another fantastic web site to help 
us raise money for this vital research study: 
	http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/histio/

Thank you to the 20 people who have already donated money to the AKC CHF 
Research Study Grant #2214.

Thank you in advance to the other 2001 members of the Berner-l who will be 
moved to send donations to this fundraiser.   The Berners who will benefit 
from this research study will thank you, too!

Waiting for an avalanche of checks to arrive in my mailbox soon.

Joye Neff and Nick (Ben)
In memory of SeaVaRidge's Winston Poohbear (1-8-98) (1-4-03) - Malignant 
Histiocytosis
Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA



Bear - Malignant Histiocytosis

2003-03-14 Thread RJacq16804
Hi,

Here is how our visit went to the oncologist. It was a long day, especially waiting 
for the last pathology report but it needed to be done - Malignant Histiocytosis. I 
already knew in my heart that I would hear those words. All the symptoms - so quick 
-so fast!!!  It's just not right to lose my boy at the age of 5 who less than a 
week ago was running, barking and being a silly boy.

Talked to my vet and the oncologist and the treatment options (lack of) and decided to 
have my boy put down this morning.  I went by he vet last night and they gave me some 
medication so that he wouldn't be in pain last night. He had a good night - ate some 
dinner, went for a short walk, and laid in his favorite place with head on windowsill 
with window opened. Even barked like crazy when people walked by in front of the 
house. 

Going to have the vet draw some blood this morning and refrigerate it so that I can 
submit it for the Malignant Histiocytosis Research Project.  Pat Long is sending me 
the collection kit. Hopefully this study will be able to help our fight against 
Malignant Histiocytosis. PLEASE, PLEASE help Joye Neff with her current raffle (AKC 
CHF Malignant Histicytosis Fundraiser)- - http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/histio/

I will finish this e-mail later today. Right now I have about 2 1/2 hours left with my 
boy and want to cherish every minute with him. What a wonderful first Berner - he sold 
my heart to this breed.

Even though I only got to have Bear in my life for 5 short  years and if I had known 
that when I got him as a 7 week old puppy - I would not have changed a thing. 5 years 
with this sweetheart is worth everything to me. My children are having a hard time 
with the sudden illness to having to put him down all within a 6 day period. I have a 
hard time understanding so I can just imagine how hard this is for them. Some kids at 
school yesterday just said Oh, just get another dog. My daughter was shocked - our 
dogs are not just dogs - they are so tightly intertwined in this family - that it is 
like losing part of yourself. I just told her that some people don't give and receive 
love from their pet like we do!!

Will write more later - thanks so much for all the love and prayers that were sent our 
way. I will need them when I leave in a little while. 

Trying to be strong but oh so, so hard.

Renee Jacquier
Katy, TX 



Mini-Pink's Gift to me - a Lesson to help others

2003-03-14 Thread Deb Tripp
On March 5, my girl Pal delivered naturally 12 puppies.  One male was
stillborn and another female who later sported a pink ribbon was a
tiny little thing weighing no more than 210 g at birth (7 oz).  As tiny
as she was, she had spunk.  We called her Mini-Pink due to her pink
ribbon and the fact that she was so tiny.  

I found that she was not gaining weight, after 4 days she had only
gained 80 g and was up to 280 g and holding.  I decided that I would
supplement her with goat's milk via bottle feeding.  On March 10th
around 5 pm, I found Mini-pink limp and turning blue - her breathing
very laboured.  My husband, Peter, rushed her to the vet (after hours,
our clinic was closed and we had to go another clinic).  The vet there
took xrays and found fluid in the left lung, but the right lung was
clear - so she had a bit over 50 percent lung capacity.  She perscribed
antibiotic in case of infection (pnuemonia) and we were told to keep her
warm and give fluid (milk) via syringe every 2 hours.  The next 24 to 36
hours were critical for her survival.

LESSON NO. 1 the vet SHOULD have shown Peter how to tube feed. 
There is no way that we could get enough fluids into this wee girl via
syringe to the mouth.  Additionally, she should have been receiving
sub-q fluids.

The following morning, Mini-Pink, was showing some improvement - her
sucking reflex was back and she was no longer limp.  However, later that
day her strength waned once again and she became like a dishrag.  I
rushed into the vet again (this time my clinic). My vet showed me how to
tube feed - he said she is dehydrated and needs lots of fluids - at
least 5 cc every 2 hours.  So, I had a crash course in tube feeding and
off home again. Spent the night feeding Mini-Pink every 2 hours.

Again, she appeared much stronger in the morning and I was filled with
hope that this brave wee girl would survive.  Around 11 am, she started
to moan and cry - every movement sent pain through her body.  Once again
- I rush her to the vet.  We figure she has collic and is still very
dehydrated. I am dispatched to the local drug store for gripe water.  We
administer gripe water in hopes this will help relieve the poor thing of
the gas.  Additionally, she appears bloated and we figure she is having
a difficult time pooping due to not enough fluids in her intestines to
ease the feces along - so, the vet gives her a tiny enema.  Also, she is
give 10 cc sub-q injections of saline. Around 3 pm I return home - she
is still moaning and crying.  The injection area for sub-q's is very
painful to her.

LESSON 2 - tube feeding requires burping too...I did not know that. I
was not told.  

I continued to tube feed her every 2 hours and also administer sub-q
injections of 5 ccs 8 hours apart.  By 3 am her breathing was laboured
and she was gasping - she was extremely limp and froth/liquid was coming
out of her tiny mouth.  Around 10:45 am - my sweet little puppy lost her
brave fight.

I write story about Mini-Pink in hopes that other breeders will learn
from my experience and know what to do and not to do if one of their
puppies aspirates on milk.  This is Mini-Pink's gift to me - to show me
how to save the next puppy should this happen, and to pass on this
information to help others.

What I learned

I should have tube fed Mini-Pink from the beginning and not used a
bottle. Previous to this, I was very afraid of tube feeding because I
had heard that one can put the tube into the lungs instead of the
stomach - but, that is really difficult to do - as you measure the
length of tube and if it doesn't go all the way, then you remove the
tube and try again  - that way you are assured of being in the stomach. 
You can get more fluids into the stomach with a tube than you can with a
bottle.

Learn how to tube feed - don't be afraid.

I have also sent Mini-Pink and her stillborn brother's bodies to the
university for necropsy.  Perhaps there was more wrong with Mini-Pink
than just aspiration.  It is important that breeders find out why
puppies die and not just pass it off as fading puppy syndrome.

Very hard lessons learned over these past few days.  Thank you
Mini-Pink. Your short life was not without purpose (Mar 5 - 13, 2003).

Humbly,
Debbie
-- 
Hunka Hunka Berner Love - Kimberlite Reg'd.
Debbie Tripp - Saskatchewan Canada - Berners since 1986  
http://www.kimberlitebernese.com



RE: mast cell tumors..

2003-03-14 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Maura,
Caught early mast cell can be controlled. Depending on the grade and
location the oncologist will determine your treatment options.

One day at a time:-))

Rose T.



Re: drafting

2003-03-14 Thread Molly Bass
Hi Bill,

I did mention in my message that we had done all of that - the weights 
attached to the end, wearing the harness around the house, tying things to 
it and having him pull them around the yard, loose tracers - we followed 
the book and did all the prep work as it is recommended  it was a disaster 
and this is after doing the weights on the end, the loose tracers, etc! 
  For some reason the noise associated with the plastic cart is what set 
us back to ground zero. So we had taken the small steps although my note 
may have made it sound as though we jumped from the frying pan into the fire.

Now to get dad to make brakes for the shafts and we can get him working.
Molly and the gang + 3 squirts
Charlottesville, VA


Hi Molly,
Congrads on winning the cart..The first rule, NEVER NEVER NEVER put a dog
that doesn't know how to cart and see what happens..Once the dog gets
spooked it will take much longer to get past that stage..Plus he or she
could easily get hurt..
Start by just having your dog wear the harness. Than if no problems put the
traces on and have her just drag the tracesThan add a drag, such as a
small log or detergent bottle filled half way with water...Stay at this
step.. Make big wide turns and go over different surfaces..grass to gravel
to blacktop..
Take very small steps, make the lessons short,but make them fun..
I don't have the room here to give you a  full lesson, but Potomac which is
your local club does have carting workshops.. Just as Watchung on April 6
and Nashoba starting on March 29th.
Some dogs you could get away with hooking up and see what happens, but why
take the chance.. I had trained many dogs to cart from Berners to Goldens to
Chessie's They all can be taught some just take a little longer time
Good luck
Bill Wilczek
Wilczek Woodworks
www.geocities.com/wilczekwoodworks



RE: BERNER-L digest 4321

2003-03-14 Thread Ellen Lauber
Hi, everyone!  I am new to the Berner Mailing List and would like to
introduce myself.  My name is Ellen and my 4 year old Berner, Harper, and I
live in West Chester, Pa.  I spent a long time researching dog breeds and
finally fell in LOVE with the Berner!  It took me a year exactly from the
moment I made my first phone call to a breeder until the day I was able to
pick up my fluffy little girl!  We are quite inseparable.  She and I have
been visiting a nursing home close to our house for the past 3 1/2 years and
the folks there love her.  Some of the patients have her picture up in their
rooms!  They all know her name, but not many remember mine.  All of my
friends children name their stuffed animals after Harper too.  She is quite
the K9 celebrity here in WC!
 If anyone has knowledge of any type of Berner activities in the area, I
would love to hear about them.  It would be great to get together with other
Berner fanatics!
Thanks,
Ellen Lauber
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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golf club covers

2003-03-14 Thread lizmurray
Hi All,
You can get berner golf club covers at:
http://www.uniquesportsaccessories.com/daphnes.html
or e-mail them at: Michael A. Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I just received 2, one for 
my husband and one for me since the fight over who gets it just wasn't worth. These 
are really cute but be warned, they're quite big. I e-mailed them because I'm in 
Canada and their toll free number did not work in my area. Yes, they do ship to Canada 
for all you Canadians out there. 

I have to tell you a funny story about this company. When I was dealing with them to 
get the covers shipped to Canada, they asked me what a bernese mountain dog was. The 
covers were a new item for them and before the stock even arrived, they had orders for 
15. Usually they get orders for one or two when a new product comes out. I warned them 
their site had been posted on the berner list and to expect a bit more interest. I 
then sent them to the berner.org site so they could see what a real berner looked 
like. They, of course, fell in love with them.

Cheers
Liz Murray
Calgary, Alberta



sleeping position

2003-03-14 Thread Andrea Brin
does anyone's dog sleep with one paw rotated in with their head resting on
it rather that both paw straight ahead. i am trying to determine if this
rotation is unusual since chi has had some subluxcations at c1 and c3 due to
trauma.
thanks
andrea



Re: [Fwd: Invisable Fencing]

2003-03-14 Thread Denise Vickers
Nancy,  
When I lived in a development I used IF on my Mel who was attacked by a 
stray Rhodesian Ridgeback that walked thru the IF.  This stray, 
purebread dog, lived eight miles away in a different city!  I do not 
denounce IF but, if someone has no other alternative but to install an 
IF, then they deffinately should hear the bad bad xperiences as well as 
the good.  I am simply stating my experiences so that others can make a 
well informed determination on which type of fencing is best for their 
needs.
- Denise
Michigan USA

Nancy wrote:

Subject:
RE: Invisable Fencing
From:
Nancy Melone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:
Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:11:49 -0800
To:
Denise Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Denise --
In many cases, the problem when people inquire about IF is that they are not
allowed to erect a physical fence without violating their housing plan
rules. This problem is becoming more prevalent and so people are searching
for information on alternative ways to protect their dogs from auto injury
and roaming off premise in their neighborhoods.  I live in such a
neighborhood -- my neighbors contain their dogs, so there is virtually no
problem with outside dogs roaming into our yards (it is against the law
anyway, so our development can easily enforce this should someone be a bit
lax -- a reminder letter usually does it).  In addition, many people have IF
signs posted in the yard indicating that an IF is present. There are ways of
handling the situations that you describe and still use IF.  What typically
dictates how one handles containing one's dog (physical fencing or in-ground
wire) are the constraints the individuals faces in their specific living
environment.  I have done both and can tell you that both options involve
significant outlays of money when you are fencing multiple acres.
Nancy Melone
-Original Message-
From: Denise Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:58 PM
To: Berner List
Subject: Invisable Fencing


Regarding invisible fencing.  I do not have one, I have a physical
fence.  I have almost 3 acres fenced  - yes it is expensive and there is
maintenance, but I have piece of mind.  Friends visit often bringing
their dogs over for a run off leach in a large, safe, fenced area.  They
could not do this if I had a invisible fence for they would have to
train their dog on my invisible fence line with a shock collar - or keep
it leached up.   I baby-sit my sisters and my parents dogs and no dogs
have ever escaped.  My neighbors dogs who wander often can only pick a
fight through the fence.  An invisible fence can be deceiving to
children, the postman and responsible adults.  Most don't realize they
are in or near an invisible fence area until it is too late.  Not all
dogs like children or adults for that matter, and not all people are
comfortable with dogs - especially unleashed dogs.  Have you ever walked
through a neighborhood on a quite evening and had the poop scared out of
you when a barking, unleashed dog rushed the sidewalk only to stop four
feet from you for no apparent reason.  Granted no harm was done but the
two year old in the stroller cried for several more blocks.
-Denise
Michigan, USA
 































Molly's Surgery

2003-03-14 Thread Martha Hoverson
Hello, all~
Molly underwent arthroscopic elbow surgery at Tufts this morning, and the 
report this afternoon is that all went well!  There were bone spurs on both 
elbows (Fragmented Coronoid Processes) and those have been removed.  She 
woke up well from the anesthesia, and we will be able to go and pick her up 
tomorrow rather than waiting until Sunday.  Hurray!  Now we just have to get 
through 2-3 weeks of very quiet rest, followed by a gradual return to normal 
activity.  I have been again reading websites about games to play with a dog 
who must rest.  Laurie Bryce's TPLO website is invaluable 
(http://www.lauriebryce.com/tplo/); Molly is a champ at the shell game since 
her TPO recovery! I found another site today with some helpful ideas 
(http://www-personal.ksu.edu/~may/activ).
Surgery doesn't cure elbow dysplasia, but with any luck this will allow 
Molly to be more comfortable and slow down the progression of Degenerative 
Joint Disease.  Her attitude remains friendly; she went off with the Vet 
Tech yesterday with nary a backward glance, despite having been to Tufts for 
her previous surgery.  It's a good thing she isn't shy!
Thanks to everyone who has been so supportive since I first posted about 
Molly just before her TPO in December.  If Molly were here, I feel sure she 
would add her Rooby-Roo, too,

Martha Hoverson and Molly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Maine


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Your Breeder - Your Friend

2003-03-14 Thread Deb Tripp
I've briefly skimmed the posts in regards to what is expected of a
breeder and rudeness, etc. and in the Seinefeld tradition...yadda,
yadda, yadda

Right now, I am in the throes of interviewing prospective puppy owners.
A daunting task.  I want the BEST homes for my beloved fur-kids.  I put
my life and soul into these puppies and I do expect that my puppy buyers
will also do the same. I have certainly come across prospective buyers
that are ideal homes save for some little niggling difference in
opinion. It is no secret that I want raw fed homes for my puppies -
prospective buyers come to me because I raise my puppies on a raw diet
with minimal vaccination and exposure to toxic chemicals such as flea
and tick control.  Therefore, when a prospective buyer says to me things
like - I do not believe in raw or minimal vaccinations...then right away
we have a conflict.  I do tell these people that they should seek out
breeders who are more in line with their way of thinking. Please keep in
mind here - I am not suggesting for one minute that my way of raising
puppies is superior to the next - it is simply a different way.  

What I am saying is that one should seek out a breeder that is closely
aligned to one's way of thinking. That to me, is the importance of the
screening process - not only for the breeder, but for the buyer too.

Your breeder should be your friend. This is the one person who will be
genuinely pleased with all your puppies accomplishments.  Seek out the
breeder who shares your views and one you can get along with.

And above all remember...we breeders are not mind readers. If you are
having a problem with your puppy - please tell us. don't be coy. 
Remember you are not the only person we are dealing with.  While you may
only be dealing with ONE person, we are dealing with many.  Say what you
want...tell us... be specific.  If you are having a problem with
something say...something like...my puppy is limping, my vet says it's
X, I expect this from you.  That helps alot!  Don't just say something
like...my puppy is limpingand nothing more.  I'm not saying you will
get you want, but at least we will know what you want, which is a lot
more specific than wondering what you want (from us the breeders).

Deb


-- 
Hunka Hunka Berner Love - Kimberlite Reg'd.
Debbie Tripp - Saskatchewan Canada - Berners since 1986  
http://www.kimberlitebernese.com



Histio Roll Call

2003-03-14 Thread jean cheesman
On the 30th January, Pat and Joye and I were e-mail chatting about was this
new page possible! Pat sent me the original roll call that was gathered from
Berner-l a few months before and I was inspired to make a start!I Hmm!
Burning the midnight oil and beyond here UK, by the time Pat and Joye woke
next morning US time I already had some of the individual pages done as some
of those names on the list were already there on my In Loving Memory Pages
on the Longlease Site. And then you all responded so well! Within a few
weeks, instead of a simple list of names and dates, a real Tribute to those
brave dogs and their owners with their personal stories and so many
beautiful pictures was building

I have been greatly saddened by how quickly this new page has grown because
not only was I building the individual pages for those dogs on the original
list but since then more dogs have died of this awful, awful disease!

I was quite shocked when I pulled up Pat's email to find when this new page
began, it feels like many years ago, which in some ways it is because we
have pages there for dogs lost so many years ago but never forgotten! But at
the same time is so recent because there have been so many new additions.

Oh, Pat, Joye, it's only March 14th!

Please, all of you take the time to look at this page even if you think it
will never happen to you! Be aware of this disease which is the most awful
and devastating killer of our beloved Berners.

At the bottom of the page you will also find link re. the Research being
done at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Centre and how you can help! I
am so humbled by the number of brave owners faced with losing their dogs to
Histio who have submitted blood samples for future research at such an awful
time. Please read this carefully, as test samples are still needed from
older healthy dogs too!

As you probably know, I lost my Sam to Lymphosarcoma T-cell 3, the worst
possible type, but at least there we had a fighting chance. From a few short
weeks on initial prognosis, with chemo and alt. treatment, Sam had a
glorious extra precious six months.

Histio is a killer! No possible cure or treatment and it strikes so fast! If
we can find an answer to this disease, the Research will benefit us all!

So scroll down the page further and you will find the link to the new AKC
CHF Malignant Histiocytosis Fundraiser. Please contribute as much as you can
here, we have to make this the best ever, we are losing too many of our
beloved Berners to this disease and at such a heartbreakingly young age!

You have a chance here to win one of Willem's beautiful paintings, he has
lost so many of his dogs to Histio and other cancers and works tirelessly
here.

Let Joye's mailbox be full of cheques and all paws crossed that Nick Neff
doesn't get there first!!! Only joking Joye, am sure it is steel cased and
puppy proof!

Have had one sincere criticism of my Histio Roll Call Site from my lovely
Karen Connors, our Berner Angel Lady! I asked her would she please sign my
Guestbook as so far had only been me and Willem!  Well, she did! But said
that is hard to get to the bottom of the page without endless supplies of
boxes of Kleenex Tissues. Maybe I should have Guestbook and links at the top
too!

Guess, I should do this, just a few short weeks ago, the bottom of the page
was a lot closer to the top!

All love,

Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang
X
http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/histiorollcall.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm



RE: Histio Roll Call - The People Behind the Efforts

2003-03-14 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
We are such an incredibly lucky group. This breed seems to attract such
wonderful people, and I'd like to take time to thank some of them.

Joye Neff, the Fundraising Queen! You are AMAZING!

Karen Pickles, the Fundraising Website Wonder. Thank you for keeping one
step ahead of Joye, it's a difficult job, I know!

Willem Wijnberg, our new Fundraising Donor Extraordinaire! You keep
those eyes healthy for us, we want to have you with us for a very long
time!!

Karen Connors, The Angel Lady. Nothing I can say will adequately express
how much we all love you. Thank you!

Jean Cheesman, Master of the Quick Page! I have to be careful what I ask
of you, you are just too fast and excellent! (Take a peek at
http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/friends91.htm It has nothing
to do with the histio efforts, but everything to do with a budding
Rescue Queen, who is obviously an excellent Trainer.)

Coleen Hacker, who took on the task of digging for more information
about the Fred Hutchinson study, and did an excellent write-up of it.
THANK YOU!!

To everyone who has donated information, experience, blood samples,
time, money, support, sympathy, that's just about everyone on this List!

That's all I'll mention in the context of Histio - I know I'm missing
some others, I'm hungry and it's dinnertime. And if I start a list of
all the amazing people in this breed, I'm liable to go on all night. We
really are blessed with a terrific bunch of people, aren't we! THANK YOU
ALL

Pat Long ( Luther)
Berwyn PA



Mast cell tumors

2003-03-14 Thread Lisa D Allen
My Berner, Jorda, had a mast cell tumor surgically removed at age four 
years.  She lived an additional nine years.  I credit the work of my dogs' 
veterinarian, who is a skilled surgeon.
Lisa Allen
Blessed with Jorda, Olympians Helen of Troy CD  DD  from 1986 to 1999!





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Re: AKC CHF Malignant Histiocytosis Fundraiser

2003-03-14 Thread Cindy Reid
Joye wrote:
 Thank you in advance to the other 2001 members of the Berner-l who will be
 moved to send donations to this fundraiser.

Let's see...if each of the remaining 2001 members of this list donated just
TEN dollarsWOW!!  What huge strides we may be able to take to wipe out
this disease!

 I'd like to encourage others who would like to honor the memory of a
Berner
 who has lost the battle to histio, or to any other disease, to make a
 donation in that Berner's memory.

My check will be dated March 26, the day I lost my Travis one year ago to
MH.

Cindy Reid



RIP Katie, sadly lost to Histio!

2003-03-14 Thread jean cheesman
With much sadness I have just added beloved Katie to the Histio Roll Call
Site

http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/histiorollcall.htm

From Chris and Herb Baker:

We lost our First Berner to Histio,  this past Monday.
We've never dealt with this curse, personally, till now;  in any Berner
we've owned or bred; and are thrown for a loop. And, Katie was
one of our own Berners.   We bred  delivered her,  her mom,  her
grand-dad,  and her  great-grandma;  all of whom are alive and very
well.

All of Katies siblings are being spayed/ neutered, as is her mom
(just to be safe).And Katie had puppies, in Oct.  and they are all
on spay/ neuter contracts, too. We also submitted a blood sample,
for the Histio study.

Biggest hugs to Chris and Herb here, this is such an awful shock! And they
are being so brave and caring!

It was only a short while ago we were talking as they had submitted blood
samples of their older healthy dogs to the Histio Study and encouraged their
puppy owners to do the same!

We heartily agree that something MUST BE DONE, in the areas of research and
treatment of histiocytosis, and other canine diseases !!  As a matter of
fact, we are presently
following up several leads on the subject, and we will pass along any
information we get..
If we can dream it, we can do it !

Find Katie's Tribute Page on Histio Roll Call, a true hero! She had an
extra six happy weeks thanks to Herb's cooking!

All love,

Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang
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BMDC of Watchung Draft test: One more week to enter

2003-03-14 Thread BLKCAT123
There's only one week left to get your entries in for the BMDC of Watchung's
7th Annual Draft test.  They close Friday March 21st, 2003.

We will be having a workshop  draft match the weekend prior to the test.
The info is below.

Thank you, 
Beth Schmoyer
BMDCW Draft Secretary


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Bernese Mountain Dog Club of America 
DRAFT TEST 
Seventh Draft Test Hosted by 
Bernese Mountain Dog Club of Watchung 
SATURDAY - APRIL 12, 2003 
Lebanon Township Memorial Park 
530 West Hill Road 
Glen Gardner, New Jersey 08826 
Park Headquarters Telephone: (908) 638-8523 
All judging will be outdoors 
Test hours: 8:30 AM to 4:30 PM 

Judges 
Phil Atkinson 

Barbara Gibson 

Premium lists may be obtained from 
Patrick Barlow (908) 766-0293 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Ace Those Narrows! 
A Chance to Learn  Practice! 
Sunday, April 6, 2003 
A Draft Workshop/Run-throughs will be held at Lebanon Township Memorial 
Park, the Draft Test site. 
This all-breed event, using BMDCA rules, will let you polish your skills. 
Workshop 9-12 AM 
Including harnessing instruction, maneuvering in the ring, training tips. All 
levels. Pre-registration required. $20 with dog, $10 without dog. Lunch may 
be ordered in advance. Entry limit: 20 
Judged Run Throughs 
Afternoon: run-throughs with a judge, 12-2 PM or 2-4 PM time slots. $15 per 
team. Entry limit: 15 

For an entry flyer or more information, contact 
Claire Coppola, (973) 492-1377, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Join us on Sunday, April 13th, 2003 
For the Watchung Club Breed  Obedience 
Berner Match 
At Duke Island Park, Bridgewater, about 25 miles from the draft test site 
For information on the Match, call Janice Bann, 908 704-1743 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Fund Raising

2003-03-14 Thread Julie Toft
Hello all,
On the topic of fund raising for the cancer research (which by the way
I work right next door to the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research facility
in Seattle):
Would you consider setting up a PayPal account, so we can send money
electronically? It's so quick and easy.

Julie
and Zack my beautiful berner boy

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FW: This is scary - News from AKC

2003-03-14 Thread Lisa Baldwin
i thought that this would interest the list

lisa baldwin 
(dickens, bark  zel)
seattle, wa
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From:  Patsy Shuler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:04:47 -0800
To:  unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input)
Subject: This is scary - News from AKC

From  http://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm?article_id=1712

RI Bill Further Reduces Rights of Owners
[Thursday, March 13, 2003]

Rhode Island would take a giant step towards animal rights and away from the
basic rights of animal owners if legislation introduced in February is
allowed to pass. Help from Rhode Island clubs and individuals is needed to
defeat this very real threat to responsible dog ownership.

In 2001, Rhode Island became the first and only state to approve the
guardian concept, an animal rights initiative that denigrates owners and
equates owned animals with slaves. Animal rights activists were able to
convince Rhode Island legislators that animals are not our property and we
are not their owners. Rather than owners, activists campaigned,
individuals who keep animals should be referred to as guardians. The AKC
and other opponents argued that this was just the first step in a mission to
end all animal ownership.

HB5817 brings these concerns to reality, creating several new categories of
animal neglect and abuse that will be enforced not just by police and
special humane agents, but also must be reported by a whole series of
professionals ranging from school employees to photographers to the media.
If any of these experts suspect a guardian is not providing adequate care,
the animal can be confiscated and guardianship terminated.

In addition, HB5817 prohibits bodily alterations, a broad category which
includes ear cropping, tail docking, dewclaw removal, and debarking.

No one cares more about the welfare of animals than the purebred dog fancy
and many dog fanciers may agree with some of the basic principles of HB5817.
Unfortunately, HB5817 goes too far and threatens the rights of responsible
dog owners. Animal care and control decisions cannot be blindly handed over
to humane agencies. Owners, breeders, and veterinarians should retain some
control and responsibility for making decisions about the care of pets.
What the Bill Does:

* Creates various degrees of animal abuse and neglect and makes aggravated
abuse and neglect felonies.
* Compels 21 categories of professionals to report suspected abuse and
neglect (doctors, nurses, school employees, members of the clergy,
attorneys, marriage and family therapists, photographers, employees of news
media, firefighters, and more).
* Allows animal care agencies to petition for termination of guardianship.
* If a guardian is deemed unfit, he cannot possess any animal for at least 3
years and must repay costs associated with the care of the animal.
* Creates animal abuser registry and requires notification of neighbors.
* Bans procedures that disable or remove any part or organ, making commonly
accepted elective procedures such as ear cropping, tail docking, dewclaw
removal, and debarking illegal. Violators will be subject to fines and jail
time.
* Allows any guardian of an animal subjected to a violation to bring a civil
lawsuit for actual and punitive damages of not less than $1000 per
violation.
* Requires motorists to immediately stop and render aid to any animal
injured by the motorist, including all wild animals such as deer, opossums,
raccoons, squirrels, and birds.
* Makes individuals who cause the death of a person¹s pet or companion
animal intentionally or negligently liable for up to $10,000 in noneconomic
damages if the death occurred on the owner or caretaker¹s property or while
under the control of the owner or caretaker. Noneconomic damages shall
include compensation for the loss of companionship, love, and affection of
the pet.

Want to Learn More?

* Read the full text of HB5817.
* Read more about the Guardian movement:
Taking Command article, Guardians at the Gate (April 2001)

NAIA brochure

Contact the AKC¹s Canine Legislation department for more information on this
bill or any issue facing dog owners:
919-816-3720
919-816-4275 fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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2003-03-14 Thread Terry Cathy Bering
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RIP Bear - Malignant Histiocytosis.

2003-03-14 Thread jean cheesman
Hi Renee,

With great sadness have lit more candles tonight at Longlease for Bear!

This is the most awful of diseases but thank you for being so brave and
caring and going through with the blood test at this awful time for you!

When  you feel ready, please let me have some pics of Bear and will make him
a special Tribute Page on Histio Roll Call, sadly this Site is growing too
fast!

PLEASE, PLEASE help Joye Neff with her current raffle (AKC CHF Malignant
Histicytosis Fundraiser)- - http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/histio/

Bless you, Renee, for caring so much about others, this is a SHOUT that
needs to be heard!

Bless you beloved Bear! May your passing be gentle and know you have so many
friends waiting for you at the Bridge, too many friends!

In memory of you all, we will work to find the answer to this awful disease!

All Love,

Jean, Sunny, Sim, Barney and the Gang
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RE: [Fwd: Invisable Fencing]

2003-03-14 Thread Nancy Melone
I think that she was asking for experiences, both good and bad.  That is the
value of the Berner-l.  My comment was not meant to upset you, just to
broaden the discussion.
Nancy Melone

-Original Message-
From: Denise Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Berner List
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Invisable Fencing]


Nancy,
When I lived in a development I used IF on my Mel who was attacked by a
stray Rhodesian Ridgeback that walked thru the IF.  This stray,
purebread dog, lived eight miles away in a different city!  I do not
denounce IF but, if someone has no other alternative but to install an
IF, then they deffinately should hear the bad bad xperiences as well as
the good.  I am simply stating my experiences so that others can make a
well informed determination on which type of fencing is best for their
needs.
- Denise
Michigan USA

Nancy wrote:

 Subject:
 RE: Invisable Fencing
 From:
 Nancy Melone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:
 Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:11:49 -0800
 To:
 Denise Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Denise --
In many cases, the problem when people inquire about IF is that they are
not
allowed to erect a physical fence without violating their housing plan
rules. This problem is becoming more prevalent and so people are searching
for information on alternative ways to protect their dogs from auto injury
and roaming off premise in their neighborhoods.  I live in such a
neighborhood -- my neighbors contain their dogs, so there is virtually no
problem with outside dogs roaming into our yards (it is against the law
anyway, so our development can easily enforce this should someone be a bit
lax -- a reminder letter usually does it).  In addition, many people have
IF
signs posted in the yard indicating that an IF is present. There are ways
of
handling the situations that you describe and still use IF.  What typically
dictates how one handles containing one's dog (physical fencing or
in-ground
wire) are the constraints the individuals faces in their specific living
environment.  I have done both and can tell you that both options involve
significant outlays of money when you are fencing multiple acres.
Nancy Melone

-Original Message-
From: Denise Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:58 PM
To: Berner List
Subject: Invisable Fencing



Regarding invisible fencing.  I do not have one, I have a physical
fence.  I have almost 3 acres fenced  - yes it is expensive and there is
maintenance, but I have piece of mind.  Friends visit often bringing
their dogs over for a run off leach in a large, safe, fenced area.  They
could not do this if I had a invisible fence for they would have to
train their dog on my invisible fence line with a shock collar - or keep
it leached up.   I baby-sit my sisters and my parents dogs and no dogs
have ever escaped.  My neighbors dogs who wander often can only pick a
fight through the fence.  An invisible fence can be deceiving to
children, the postman and responsible adults.  Most don't realize they
are in or near an invisible fence area until it is too late.  Not all
dogs like children or adults for that matter, and not all people are
comfortable with dogs - especially unleashed dogs.  Have you ever walked
through a neighborhood on a quite evening and had the poop scared out of
you when a barking, unleashed dog rushed the sidewalk only to stop four
feet from you for no apparent reason.  Granted no harm was done but the
two year old in the stroller cried for several more blocks.

-Denise
Michigan, USA
































PVBMDC Maryland draft test in May

2003-03-14 Thread Andrea Stefanac
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