colourproblem in berners
Hi, we have been on our morningwalk and I must say I have a bernerproblem I hope some of you can help us with. Overnight Vincent changed colour so the bernerwhite is brown, the brown is black and all the rest in brown. Have he eaten something wrong or is it common in his age, he will become 4 in the end of this month. Please help! Vincent and Margareta Stockholm
Re: attacks on livestock
Hi Brooke, We live in the country in the middle of sheep cattle farmers... My Berner girl would probably chase anything that moves outside the house, be it cat, low flying jet planes, water, cars, cows, sheep. I think she would hurt, maybe try to eat, anything she catches too - she pinned down one of my cats (who think they're honorary canines walk with us) and I found teeth marks on his scalp after I rescued him. Then she started escaping, over a 5' fence, or through small holes at the bottom the fence. We had a month to make our 1 acre escape proof - sheep and cattle are put out to grass from the end of March, and I could not contemplate having a dog who chased unless she was fully contained. My husband finished putting 7' deer fencing all the way round the garden, 3 days before a bazillion sheep arrived in the fields. I was very relieved the animals hadn't arrived any earlier and I am now focusing on walking past the sheep with her on a lead and persuading her that they don't exist - it helps that Toby, my Alpha Newfy, ignores the silly animals. But I wouldn't even trust him if he got amongst them. Sheep are stupid, one runs, they all go and dogs just love to chase. That's when a game turns into a massacre. My girl is the sweetest, most obedient dog in the house, in the town, at the vets. I just have to make sure she's under control the rest of the time and if that means lead walking past stock in the summer months, and checking up on her whereabouts regularly, then that's what I'll do. Good luck with your boy - I'm sure he'll enjoy the extra attention that keeping an eye on him constantly, brings! I know my 'butter wouldn't melt in her mouth' girl does! Liz Bradbury in Sheep County g, Scotland On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:56:23 -0500, Brooke Hallowell wrote: Does anyone have experience with Berners attacking livestock? We've had trouble with a beautiful, obedient, sweet, loving one attacking pet llamas and sheep. Have any of you heard of this? We have yet to find a completely failsafe way of keeping him from getting loose on occasion. T
RE: Housebreaking Help
Hi Brigitte, When a puppy urinates within ten minutes of returning back into the house I would assume a urinary tract infection. These infections are very very common in puppies and are usually quickly cleared up with a course of amoxicillin or clavamox. You will have to try and collect a sample for the vet to analyse or being a male it is easy for the technician to catheritise them and empty the bladder. Try to keep him from lying for too long on cold damp surfaces. Inside the house he'll be fine on the vinyl or tile flooring but don't use that chill bed just yet:-) Rose T. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 30, 2003 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Housebreaking Help We've had Eli for nearly 2 weeks and are still having trouble with housebreaking. He has good days and bad days. On a bad day (like today), he'll go outside, doo his business, come in (on his own) and go to the bathroom in the house only minutes later... help! We haven't had him long enough to fill out a Berner survey yet, but he's racked up a naughtiest already -- he seems to think that the door molding on our bathroom is one giant chew toy - a large chunk has been chomped off! Luckily we love him... :+) Thanks to the poster who mentioned canine cooler mats - never heard of them, found on Petsmart.com and ordered. Eli thinks it's hot now (only mid 50's) -- wait till our Jersey summers -- thought this might help him. Thanks again! Brigitte Berner Mom in NJ
Re: attacks on livestock
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:46:23 +0100 Liz Bradbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sheep are stupid, one runs, they all go and dogs just love to chase. That's when a game turns into a massacre. Hahaha, truer words were never spoken. I had a small flock for a short time (the other saying is sheep were born looking for a place to die) and my dogs found the chase quite thrilling. I did have verbal control to call them off (at least verbal control after I hit one stubborn Berner girl in the head with a 2x4 to get her attention after she refused to quit running the sheep in the pen). I never found the dogs to attack the sheep however, because of the stupid sheep factor they could easily injure themselves trying to escape. I have also had dogs that chased cows and horses however aggressive steers and stubborn horses can turn on a single dog and give it it's come-uppence. I found the best solution to the problem was to teach the dogs to go get the sheep, cattle, horses under supervision to stop when told and come back when called. Outside of teaching left and right (come by and way to me) I guess training is the answer. Susan Ablon Gweebarra BMD Balch Springs, Tx http://www.pageweb.com/gwebara
re: tails
I had to gigglethis post came up a while back and I suggested sippy cups for serving our guests a fine wine. Cathi
Tails and berner moving
My built-in kitchen table is at the exact width and height such that Doppo, my 11 month old BMD can stand under it, lean his head back to lick what's on my dish on one side, while simultaneously swiping the other side of the table clean of dishes, cereal, etc. Add the bump and you'll see why we're all considering wearing special protection garments while eating. At lunchtime, though, he will just lie under the dinner/lunch table on the porch, spread out in such a way that none of the members of the family can (a) sit close to each other (b) close to the food or (c) at any angle that is comfortable. By the way, how do you MOVE a berner who's decided to stay put be propped up and carried? Dog biscuits don't do it anymore, neither does bread or cake, and I really don't have a fresh supply of liver lying around at all times. (Nor do I wish to have gucky fingers, when, say, leaving for work and find doppo blocking the doorway so that I can't close the house and leave. Simone de Lima Brasilia Brazil
Tail safe
Janice, I couldn't agree more! Cheap wine glasses YES! Cheap wine, never! W = Wendi Giordano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Striving to be worthy of my beautiful Berners... In gratitude to and loving memory of Miss Kitty (Swiss Stars Cat Balou) Dec. 1, 1994 - Feb. 14, 2003 Splash (Swiss Stars Over Niagara) Cutter (Swiss Stars Black Diamond) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com
Tail wagging
Stevie is a tail wagger personified!! We just simply clear the decks and let him go to it. We certainly don't live in a show palace and between the hair and muddy paws and frequent tail induced spills, my house is, shall we say, lived in. One bonus from the tail-wagging, is in the summer if they are positioned just right, there is no need for a fan!! In winter however, keep those legs and feet well covered 'cause its cold!!! Karen and Stevie NB, Canada
whole dog journal past issues
i am looking for the following articles from the whole dog journal. if you have any of them and would be willing to copy them for me and mail or e mail them i would be so appreciative. i will be happy to cover all costs. i am pursuing becoming certified in massage. andrea Putting It All Together May 2000 Pre- and Post-Sports Massage August 2000 A Touch Should Do It July 1998 Petting With a Purpose December 1999 Knead Your Dog January 2000 Conscious Contact April 1998 Compression Technique April 2000
Re:Garden designs
Ah Liz I too have a landscape designer in my home! Ain't it grand? Saves s much time and money each Spring - no more wasted trips to the nursery for me! Funny, if something grows from the ground up (ie weed) it can stay interminably, but if it suddenly appears (ie new planting) it must be removed from the ground and destroyed immediately. Dale's 2002 designs ranged from Hole To China through to Nucleur Holocaust, then in late summer before the drought broke we had Lunar Moonscape, capitlising with my personal favourite.Complete and Utter Destruction. His latest release of the 2003 range is looking impressive. We've had a great deal of rain recently resulting in a surprising spurt of greenery. This sudden influx of alien plant life has inspired my demon child enormously, so currently we are sporting the first stages of Enter At Own Risk - Twisted Ankles and umm, Hidden *Landmines* Abound! With much empathy, but please don't let your guys near the email - Dale doesn't need any more bright ideas! Anne Dale - Director of Destructo Mutt Enterprises
the digging thing
Hi, Listers - My girl had a bit of a digging problem when she was young. I was never really able to get a handle on it, but I think mostly because I used to get s kick out of watching her do it! She was so determined and focused, those paws furiously flying, the ears flopping up and downCracked me up:) My friends and I took on the summer project of building a brick patio in the backyard 2 years ago. We had to excavate a large area and therefore had a HUGE pile of dirt in a section of the backyard. Well, that became Harper's Hill. She would chase the other dog off of the hill (a 140lb Rottie), dig a hole on the side and plop down. Nose covered, paws brown with dust, belly clumped with dirt and she was happy as can be. How do you get mad at that? When it became too much, I used to try filling a hole with poop. That seemed to help for that section, but she would just move to another part of the lawn. She eventually grew out of it. It was funny to watch though! -Ellen Harper
Arts Crafts
Thanks to the generousity of several artists and production people, we have the opportunity to do some unique, fine art and craft items to help fund BMDCA public outreach efforts. But I'm missing a couple of pieces...I'd like to find: 1) People who make *handmade paper* or can provide some other type of high quality, 'artsy' paper and would be willing to donate their work. 2) The donation of a bold and graphic piece of artwork well suited for solid block silkscreen printing. This can be an opportunity to do a Berner piece that's a bit more 'artsy' and off the beaten track than what's widely available so if you're artistically inclined, go for it. If either of these click for you, or you know someone I should contact, please drop me a note. TIA, Sherri Venditti
re:coffee table tails
I wish coffee tables were the extent of our tail problem. My male is big and tall and has quite a gay tail. When he walks by the dinner table wagging, there's no telling what you're going to find in his tail (or your dinner)...spaghetti sauce, pieces of rice, pasta--whatever he can sweep up sticks pretty well to that velcro tail. If you just add a little endust you could get some serious cleaning done...If I applied that to my much smaller female, I could probably cover all levels of furniture...:~))). Anne with Maddie and Titan Cranford, NJ
2003 Entries Close THIS Wednesday
PLEASE CROSS POST! There's just a wee bit of time left to enter the 2003 National Specialty. All entries close tomorrow - WEDNESDAY APRIL 2nd! TO ENTER CONFORMATION OBEDIENCE classes online*, via fax* or by FedEx/Overnight mail: http://www.jbradshaw.com/entryfrm.htm TO ENTER AGILITY classes via FedEx/Overnight mail: http://www.jumpnfunagility.net/secretary.htm OR TO ENTER AGILITY classes online*: http://www.dogeventsonline.com FOR A DRAFT TEST PREMIUM LIST to enter via FedEx/Overnight mail: http://www.bmdcaspecialty.org/2003/Pages/DraftPremium.pdf *Additional fees may apply NOTE: Conformation, Obedience and Draft entries close at 12:00 PM PST; Agility entries close at 8:00 PM PST.
Joint pain meds
Hello, Zack is 6 1/2 now and has just started showing signs of joint discomfort. There is now a delay between his front half getting up and his back half. Would you kindly lend me the benefit of you experience and tell me what supplements and/or treatments have worked best for sore berner joints? Thank you! Julie Toft __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com
tables
Regarding keeping objects save from berner tails, I have begun using a sofa table that goes along the sofa at the rear and is that height, rather than a coffee table. It works better for keeping your drinks out of tail range, and I like the aesthetic of an open room, uncluttered with tables. Julie Toft __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com
Hot Question
Does anyone know if hot sauce is harmful to dogs? I'm asking because that is the only way we can get one of our dogs to eat -- by putting Frank's hot sauce on his food! This particular dog developed the nasty habit of eating some of the other dogs' poop. We tried a number of things to break the habit. We tried various additives to food (from meat tenderizer to licorice). We have tried to keep the yard scooped, but with 10 dogs there is always a poop hiding in the bushes somewhere. So, we resorted to the brilliant idea of pouring a glug or two of hot sauce (we prefer the brand Frank's) on top of fresh poops, assuming that anyone (anydog) who ate them would get burned and be taught not to eat poop. Well, that did not work either. In fact, it seems that one of the dogs has become quite addicted to Frank's and now will not eat his meals unless there is a few drops of hot sauce on them. Not only is this inconvenient, but we are starting to worry that hot sauce may have some undesirable side effects. So, does anyone know if hot sauce is harmful to dogs? Thanks, Rick Robinson
Re: Berner tails -- deadly weapons
Our boy Niko managed to knock over one of our halogen pole-lights with his tail. My family had come over for dinner, and as they came in the front door Niko bounced out to say hello, his tail swung out and wrapped around the lamp, and down went the whole kit and kaboodle! Only in a Berner home can you smash a lamp (thankfully there was no broken glass) and not even have it interrupt the conversation. My husband grabbed the toppled light and marched it downstairs while I carried on chatting, greeting, gathering coats, etc. We've replaced the light, but it's now safely tucked in a corner behind the loveseat. Laura, Niko (did I do that??), and Brodie (it was HIM!) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com
Griffin: bad news and good news
Dear Listers, Griffin's new vet confirmed my suspicions today - he does have systemic reactive hystiocytosis. Griffin presented a classic case: nose lesions, conjunctivitis with mucosal involvement, nasal congestion with stuffy respiration. The biopsy taken from a lesion in January was also reviewed again and thankfully we won't need another one. Please don't be sad for us we're okay and we are going to be even better as soon as the meds kick in. We've been through stuff before and we will get through this too. The wonderful new vet was full of optimism. She said that Griffin's lymph nodes were not enlarged and that as long as he tolerates the med combo (cyclosporine ketoconazole), everything will fine. You know what? If it weren't for this list, I never would have found the histio site, recognized the symptoms and persisted with my suspicions. If it weren't for this list, Margareta and I would have never found each other and Griffin would have had to wait even longer for a correct diagnosis. If it weren't for this list, I would have gone crazy this weekend. Thank you all so very much! I am so endlessly grateful. Cecilia Ståhl Griffin Stockholm, Sweden
Re: To make your house BMD tail-safe!
What did you guys have to do to protect your belongings against your dogs tail? Put them away or display at least 5 feet above ground level :) Decorative items need to weigh, oh, maybe about 50 pounds to stay put on tables :) Table-height tailwags, Cathy, Memories BMDs
BMDCA annual dues
!!!IMPORTANT - This message is for BMDCA members only and does not apply to Alpenhorn renewal for non-members. This is a reminder that If I have not received your 2003 membership dues, they are now past due. The membership year runs from April 1st thru March 31st. An annual dues notice and the membership fee schedule is published in the inside back cover of the February Alpenhorn. I will be sending out a reminder postcard to the 590 plus 2002 members whose renewals have not been received, but Please if you know you have not sent your payment, go ahead and stick it in the mail today. If you do not send your membership dues by May 1st you will be removed from the membership roles. To be reinstated, you will have to apply for reinstatement between May 1st and August 1st by contacting me for a board approved reinstatement form. This form will need to be filled out and sent along with a check for the now required $15 reinstatement fee. Reinstatement is not allowed after August 1. Please forward dues appropriate for your level of membership to me at the following address: Laurie Farley BMDCA Membership Chair 416 Maclor Forest Rd Franklin, NC 28734 [EMAIL PROTECTED] For problems call:(828) 349-6006 or email (preferred) - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laurie Farley BMDCA Membership Chair Laurie B Farley BMDCA Membership Chair 416 Maclor Forest Rd Franklin, NC 28734
Ang: Griffin: bad news and good news
Hi all, I will also be in the choir If it weren´t for the list. My Vincent was diagnosed with systemic reactive histiocytosis in December 2002 and I got so very god information from many of you on the Berner-L, I will mention and say thank you to: Pat Long Marion Brown Terrill Eckert Heidi Parker Cecilia Stahl Peter F. Moore Verena Affolter and the wonderful veterinarian Kerstin Bergvall, DjurAkuten in Stockholm. - The wonderful new vet was full of optimism. She said that Griffin's lymph nodes were not enlarged and that as long as he tolerates the med combo (cyclosporine ketoconazole), everything will fine. You know what? If it weren't for this list, I never would have found the histio site, recognized the symptoms and persisted with my suspicions. If it weren´t for the list and you all, all over the world, my bernerboy was not a rather healthy boy today! We started the medication with ketaconazol and cyclosporin A the 6th of December 2002 and now Vincent feel good with less medication for every week. THANK YOU, The biggest and warmest bernerhugs - Vincent and Margareta Strand Stockholm, Sweden
Systemic Reactive Histiocytosis
Can I take this opportunity to ask what this disease is all about (not that I think I need one more thing to worry about)...I assume from the postings that it is a much less lethal form of histiocytosis than the dreaded MH that has been the topic of many postings lately...Is this another form of cancer Bernese are prone to, or something else altogether? Anne with Maddie and Titan Cranford, NJ
FW: Systemic Reactive Histiocytosis
Hi Anne, Here are good websites were you find a lot of information. The second one Dr Peter F.Moore´s website at ucdavis have a lot of useful information upon the systemic reactive form of histiocytosis. Some count the disease as a form of cancer, a tumour disease - often treatable if you be in time at your veterinarian and if you meet a veterinarian with knowledge in this special form of histiocytosis. You will se swellings, like bumps on the nose - very red eyes with corneaoedema - there can be other symptoms as well. http://www.bmdca.org/pages/histiocytic.htm http://www.histiocytosis.ucdavis.edu/ Perhaps Cecila will add more later on, she is so much better in the English language than I am. And again Thank heaven for the Berner-L and all the listers! I got help and courage from all of you and I feel so thankful! And big hugs to Griffin Cecilia! I know he will feel so much better very soon, Vincent and Margareta Strand Stockholm, Sweden
Amy Kessler, baby gift!
Pat forwarded me some pics from Amy of newly adopted baby Cara with her new friend Rocky which she wanted to share with you all. Have just uploaded: http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/friends96.htm Enjoy!! All love, Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang X http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm
digging dogs
Hi, We have a golden around the corner, Kolan is her name - she is a digging girl. In the summertime at their house at the countryside Kolan is digging her a big hole - it will be colder to lay there. A new hole each summer. Her family use to fill the hole with earth in the autumns. Sometimes Kolan has another golden retriever friend with her for some weeks and she then digging a hole for her friend also. They must be good friends and perhaps we will meet Kolan at our nightwalk very soon. Vincent and Margareta
RE: BMDCA annual dues - Foreign Cheques
For those of you who are in other countries, as always - Joye Neff and I are happy to help convert foreign cheques to US dollars. Our bank does not charge extra for deposits of foreign cheques. Contact us as soon as possible to make arrangements so that you don't have to go through a new membership approval process instead of just the reinstatement. Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA
Longlease Updates
Where to start? Tonight, beautiful pics from Amy Kessler and newly adopted baby girl, Cara, with her baby gift, Rocky! And from Cecilia Stahl, lovely picture of Griffin, As you may know Griffin is not too well at the moment, possibly with systemic reactive histiocytosis, we pray that today's visit to the vet has gone well! And on Histio Roll Call Site have added in a new individual page for Susie Folk's, Charlotte, sadly lost to Histio just before Christmas. And talking of Histio! Just a few days left on the Fundraiser! If you haven't put in for your Raffle Tickets for those beautiful paintings by Willem, do it now! (Ooops, Joye! I am one of the laggards here too, will mail you next!) http://www.overthefence.com/raffle/histio/ Other recent updates (so many, have even been updating the updates!) New litters for Baker's Bernese Blessings. Cassie has a very Patriotic Pup, Prince Valiant. And Sweetie gave birth to a very health litter of nine pups. She and sister, Cassie, have been sharing nursing duties here and Chris and Herb have sent me some wonderful fun pics. The latest update on Stevie is there if you missed Karen's post to the list. My Guys and Gal posing with daffodils, what's left of them after Barney trashed them And still to add, recent Nick Neff pics! Hmm! What time is it here UK? All love, Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang X http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm
Hiking with Berner puppies
I am in search of some general information. I have what we believe is a five month old rescue male Bernese mix. He has a long sad story for such a young guy. The question is, what are safe distances for hiking with these young guys? What about inclines? I generally hike in the mountains, and I do not want to cause him trouble. I just need some general rules to follow as he grows. Thanks in advance for any help! Linda DeHarak Franktown, Colorado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: attacks on livestock
Brooke My first Berner was a devil for chasing livestock. Bad news for me living surrounded by 360+ square miles filled with nothing but livestock. But CHASING is different from attacking. Not to the farmer, of course, who would shoot first and answer later. Could you tell us more about the exact circumstances? Did it start as a playful chase - something that maybe went on for a while - and slowly escalated from there? Or was it an attack out of the blue? By the way, you can ABSOLUTELY cure a dog from attacking livestock. Not every one, but the vast majority. If one couldn't, we wouldn't have any dogs left in Devon! That's the good news. The bad news is, that it's hard. REALLY hard. On you. This is the ONE time you will have to turn into Lucifer personified. Your dog must be left in no doubt that whatever fun he just had attacking that sheep is FAR outweighed by the consequences. Or, if you can't do that, you have to accept that you can't ever let your dog off the leash around livestock. Not ever. Michaela Devon/UK - Does anyone have experience with Berners attacking livestock? We've had trouble with a beautiful, obedient, sweet, loving one attacking pet llamas and sheep. Have any of you heard of this? We have yet to find a completely failsafe way of keeping him from getting loose on occasion. This is a really rare but really awful thing for him to do. He's absolutely wonderful with little children, people of all ages, and cats.
Creatin Levels
ORIGINAL POST (snipped): From Kelliher, Christine [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the beginning of March, I took my two year old female berner Kina to the vet for pre-surgery blood work. The blood work revealed that she had the lymes disease antibodies and a high creatin (sp?) level. When she returned on March 27th to be spayed, the vet advised me that the creatin level increased again. I was told this has to do with her kidneys. She has never had any problems holding her urine. The vet has recommended Science Diet K/D and special biscuits. I've been told this means no special treats such as Frosty Paws and peanut butter flavored dog biscuits. The vet also assured me this has nothing to do with cancer. Has anyone ever experienced this or can explain this to me? Any information would be appreciated. RESPONSE: My spayed girl had some seriously out-of-wack blood levels (high creatin levels included) at 19 months, which my vet diagnosed as severe kidney failure. The high creatin levels indicate that the kidneys are not properly filtering toxins from the blood. I don't believe that would have anything to do with a kidney or bladder infection, which WOULD show up as too frequent urination and pain. The nasty thing about kidney disease and/or failure is that generally there are NO symptoms until the kidneys have gotten so bad that they are barely functioning. This is usually irreversible by this stage, so it's best to catch a problem early -- like you and I did. At the time, my vet also recommended a prescription kibble and medication, which she said Maddie would have to be on for the rest of her life. I chose to decline her suggestion and put Maddie on a reduced protein BARF (bones and raw foods) diet instead, and a year later her kidney failure was cured. (My vet warned me that I would be killing my dog -- she just told me the other day that we are her favorite clients, because I am always raising questions and issues with her and she's learned a lot through me. She's very impressed with Maddie's health today.) Proteins and sodiums are difficult for failing kidneys to process. But in addition to reducing the quantity of protein, it's important to provide the very best *quality* protein. And from my research, I believe that is fresh, raw meat protein as opposed to highly-processed meat and plant protein (kibble). Given the right tools, the body can heal itself -- so you can reserve the more radical treatments for later, if necessary. I don't want to start a nutrition war here, I'm just relating Maddie's experience and offer any help I can. If you'd like more information on what worked for my girl, please e-mail me privately. Good luck -- it sounds like you've caught this early, and with the right diet she'll be fine. Vicky Whitney in Bozeman, Montana _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Histio Fundraiser
Jean, I heard a disturbing rumor that Joye has free time. I was just shocked! Joye simply never ever has any free time, so it's undoubtedly not true. However... if she isn't logging lots of fundraiser tickets, maybe, just maybe - I have a better chance to win one of the paintings. Once again, I offer to make the sacrifice in order to save the cost of shipping either one of them to anyone else. I will magnanimously offer to donate my cost of shipping them - to the very next fundraiser! Ain't I just a stinker? VBEG http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/histiorollcall.htm Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA
Re: The bulb is gone
Look harder for baby proofing latches. I had some that screwed to the inside of the cabinets. They don't show and don't deface and actually add value to a rental-the next renter could have small children or the next potential renter with children might find the child proof cabinets a selling point. Any way the door opens part way only just enough to get your fingers in and depress the plastic bar that is holding it shut. The only potential hazard I can see is that the dog may just try hard and ruin the cabinets with his nails. Dino Radha Iyengar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/03 06:06AM Well, Smokey is now lightbulb free. I will spare everyone the gory details but needless to say, he is still the light of my life--but won't be able to literally light up which all for the best. Thanks to everyone on the list. As I said, I would not have been able to react as calmly (not that it was really all that calm) as I did had it not been for all the wonderful people who emailed me suggestions and stories about their dogs. You don't realize just how much these guys are part of your life until something like this happens. Well, we are happy and healthy and lightbulbs are now going on the TOP SHELF of the cabinet. Say does anyone have a good way of dog-proofing their cubbards. I know this sounds crazy but Smokey can open things that don't have latches. He just keeps pawing them and eventually they open. In this way he has stolen loads of cereal, ripped open a box of raw pasta (which apparently is the only thing he has ever tasted that is not worth actually eating), and finished many a box of dog treats. I think there are things that one uses to baby proof but since I rent right now I can't deface the cabinets or anything--and so the ones that I saw you have to screw into the outside of the cabinets wouldn't work. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks again to everyone on the list. You are wonderful people. Love, Radha and Smokey (mom--now that I'm better, I am going to dig--my friend told me about this place called China and I hear if you dig a lot you can get there!!!) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com
Karen Martin
If anyone has an email address or phone number for Karen Martin, could you please contact me privately? Thanks! Kim Morrow Susa Reg'd Saskatoon, SK http://www.bernesedogs.com
ADMIN: Another Completely Plain Text Digest!
All right, you guys are going to spoil me now! That's two - in one week without a single HTML post! THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!!! You are the BEST! I know it is a pain to do, but trust me - it is very much appreciated!! Arrgghhh, a brag!! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA
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Hi, Could I please be removed from the mailing list. Although I LOVE reading about the Berner experiences, I just dont have that kind of time to read! Thanks very much! Trina ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: BERNER-L digest 4349
Forgot two things. Jeff was called last night from the play house to be in My Fair Lady and Send me no flowers. So, now he'll be gone most nights for for the next several months. Also Dr. A's favorite borzoi (Jordan) died o f cancer on monday. We're going to lunch thurs. She was the same age as Wrigley.(10) - Original Message - From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:41 PM Subject: BERNER-L digest 4349 BERNER-L Digest 4349 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Re: At what age...? by _Adam Conn [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2) Re: Creatin Levels by Margareta Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Re: re tail safe/lovely words by Margareta Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) re:coffee table tails by Emma Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5) Pacific Grove Parade by Lary Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6) colourproblem in berners by Margareta Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7) Re: attacks on livestock by Liz Bradbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) RE: Housebreaking Help by Rose Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9) Re: attacks on livestock by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10) re: tails by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11) Tails and berner moving by Simone de Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12) Re: Berner tails-- deadly weapons by Radha Iyengar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13) The bulb is gone by Radha Iyengar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14) Re: colourproblem in berners by Liz Bradbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15) Tail safe by Wendi Giordano [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16) Tail wagging by Karen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17) whole dog journal past issues by Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18) Re:Garden designs by Anne Gribbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19) the digging thing by Ellen Lauber [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20) Arts Crafts by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) re:coffee table tails by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22) 2003 Entries Close THIS Wednesday by Lynne Hawkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23) Joint pain meds by Julie Toft [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24) tables by Julie Toft [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25) Hot Question by Lynne Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26) Re: Berner tails -- deadly weapons by Laura McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27) Griffin: bad news and good news by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cecilia_St=E5hl?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28) Re: To make your house BMD tail-safe! by Burlile\\MemoriesBMDs [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29) BMDCA annual dues by lbfarley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30) Ang: Griffin: bad news and good news by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31) Systemic Reactive Histiocytosis by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32) FW: Systemic Reactive Histiocytosis by Margareta Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] 33) Amy Kessler, baby gift! by jean cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 34) digging dogs by Margareta Strand [EMAIL PROTECTED] 35) RE: BMDCA annual dues - Foreign Cheques by Pat Long Paul Dangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 36) Longlease Updates by jean cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 37) Hiking with Berner puppies by Linda DeHarak [EMAIL PROTECTED] 38) Re: attacks on livestock by Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 39) Creatin Levels by Vicky Whitney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tail safe
We have a new command. One of my human kids was sitting in a low chair with a glass of soft drink, when I suddenly heard her say Coffee. I turned around in time to see a tail thumping nose bumping Berner suddenly stop dead in its tracks. I guess coffee has a much more gutteral sound than wine which makes it more effective. Many precious things at our house are now called coffee. Carol Eastley Cloudforest Tasmania --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 17/03/2003
Re: colourproblem in berners
Mostly in the Winter my Bernese are Tri-Coloured, Black, Tan and Pink! We have heavy red clay in this area and it stains the white bits. In the Summer this goes away naturally with a lot of brushing. Refer to earlier mail here, I am combing my three outside now! Hair floats away, actually pretty windy at the moment! Birds do come and collect the hair for nest building, have yet to observe crow picking out the white fluff! All love, Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang X http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/longlease/index.htm
Bernese Mountain Dog Club of Victoria, Australia
Hi Everyone, the BMDCV is having it's second ever champ show in May. Last year when we had our first one (and discovered how much work was involved!) some kind individuals and clubs donated some items as prizes and raffle items. If anyone is able to make a donation this year, I will be attending the Speciality at Long beach on the last two days (SatSun) and would be able to take items back in my luggage and save on postage. Looking forward to meeting you all there. Lynette Dawson Vice President BMDCV
Re: ADMIN: Another Completely Plain Text Digest!
Um , maybe you could make your error crew the recipient of your brag money ?? In the form of a nice bottle of champagne ??? Just a thought blink , blink Laurie Montoya (proud member of the volunteer berner-l error crew) ps , thank you all for making our esteemed leader so happy :-))) (a little groveling goes a long way) All right, you guys are going to spoil me now! That's two - in one week without a single HTML post! THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!!! You are the BEST! I know it is a pain to do, but trust me - it is very much appreciated!! Arrgghhh, a brag!! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA
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seizure like episodes
For those of you who remember Boone's health problems, he continues to baffle his regular vet and his neurologist at the vet school... Has anyone had experience with seizure-like episodes that really aren't seizures? Boone's neurologist is starting to doubt that he is having seizures. He used to have what we called a seizure about every 1 1/2 months. Since the end of February he is all of the sudden having much more - 6 in 7 weeks. He has been on Phenobarbital for 2 weeks and has had two episodes since being on it (although he is on a low dosage). The main reason we are wondering if his episodes are seizures is because he ONLY has them when he is excited about something (I read somewhere that seizures usually occur when the dog is at rest). In addition, the last episode he had, I was playing with him, he started breathing funny, swaying back and forth. I caught him and helped him to the ground and then he whimpered a little and it was over in a total of about 10 seconds and he was fine. Usually he starts howling after he falls over (lasts about 30 seconds total) but it was almost like I was able to calm him down and stop the episode. There has been no evidence of heart problems or low blood sugar, but we are considering testing him further. I have a theory that maybe it all has something to do with his cervical disk compression that was fixed a year ago in May. The neurologist says that it could still be unsteady and causing problems, but could pressure on his spine in his neck cause such episodes? How about pain? Any other ideas I should bring up with the vets? My second question is about the medicine Gabapentin. Has anyone used this on their dogs before? For what reasons? Did it help? This is an idea the neurologist has, but she brought that up before we started doubting he is actually having seizures. Supposedly it works to prevent seizures, but also helps get rid of pain when other pain meds don't tend to work. But it costs $170/month! Once again any advice/suggestions are welcome! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks so much! Annette Tucker and our beloved Boone (5 1/2) whose been struggling with these neurological problems for almost 2 years now Raleigh, NC
Nicco Pics - 6 weeks to 8 months
Dear List, I have finally gotten around to uploading some recent pictures of Nicco to his webshots photo page. Can't believe that cute lil' pup is almost 9 months old now!! His webpage has photos from six weeks to 8 months - How fast they grow! Just click the link below. http://community.webshots.com/album/50511539TPRWOv Nicco is a funny, happy pup and loves everybody. His is just getting over a bout of pano and we are back to taking our long walks down to the river in back of our home. Well, husband Dan and Nicco are walking down to the river...I am recovering from knee surgery and should be able to keep up with them in another week or so. Berner puppies grow so fast...into such beautiful dogs :) Cindy Reid and Maine's Lake Country Nicco Corning, NY
Happy Birthday Mutzi!
Hapi Mtn is celebrating Mutzi-Man's EIGHTH birthday today! Mutzi was born April 1, 1995 in Switzerland and came to us at four months old. He lived in Minnesota with his co-owner, Debby Hendrickson, for a short while before coming to live with us in Idaho. Mutzi gives new meaning to a dog with his own agenda, but has mellowed into a fine gentleman, ready to please, devoted, healthy happy, sound in body mind, and a real sweetheart to the girls (he LOVES the girls)! He's certainly proud of his kids, too! Many more birthdays, Mutzi! We celebrate you! (Ch Mutz V Waldgruess). ~ Kathy M. Deyo the Hapi Mtn kids in Orofino, Idaho (PARTY TIME!!!)
re:coffee table tails
Oh Anne, I was going to write to the list that I think THIS is why gay tails are a fault!!! grin Nothing to do with structure or appearance... Tucker, my big tall boy with a high gay waggy tail, recently walked by the kitchen table when it had a tray of paint on it (I was doing the ceiling) -- by the time I noticed, I had swish marks three feet high down the hall and into a dark blue bedroom! That tail sure is a great fan in the summer though! Jen P.S. The solution to your dogs' tails spilling coffee table drinks is simple - drink only white wine - the stain doesn't show, and the more you drink the less it all matters. grin At 10:08 AM 01/04/2003 -0500, you wrote: My male is big and tall and has quite a gay tail. When he walks by the dinner table wagging, there's no telling what you're going to find in his tail (or your dinner)...spaghetti sauce, pieces of rice, pasta--whatever he can sweep up sticks pretty well to that velcro tail.
Q: Bernese in Australia
Hello, A distant relative who resides in Australia is seeking a Berner, possibly... (Are there quarentine laws to bring a dog into Australia from the U.S.?) ; and can someone send me the Australian Bernese club contacts (if there is one) and webpages and other information that may assist an individual in seeking information about this breed in Australia. If you can respond to me privately it would be greatly appreciated! [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks so much!. Rebecca Kent ~Rebecca (owned by Bernese since 1989) Canine-Corner from hair to heel Grooming Training CC Bernese Red Hook, NY www.canine-cornerbmd.com A DOG IS THE ONLY RELATIVE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE SO CHOOSE WISELY! --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by Webjogger's AntiVirus Protection System]
