reason for not sharing info

2003-06-30 Thread gwebara
I am curious if there are reasons that a breeder would not give an owner
of their dog information regarding owners of littermates. Is this a
privacy issue? Is there any other reason why I should or shouldn't let
one owner contact another? Just curious 
Susan Ablon
Gweebarra BMD
Balch Springs, Tx
http://www.pageweb.com/gwebara



Berner Days

2003-06-30 Thread chellotchr
If you are within reasonable driving distance of Norfolk/Virginia Beach,
Virginia, Care A Lot Pet Supply Warehouse (some of you are familiar with
their mail order services) has a retail outlet right on the border of
Norfolk/Virginia Beach.  Each weekend day, a different breed is featured.
August 3, 2003 is Bernese Mountain Dog Day.  Show up with your Bener and get
5% off your entire purchase.  I was wondering if anyone wanted to get
together at a specific time and show Care A Lot what a "bunch of Berners"
looks like.  Maybe afterwards, if anyone is interested, we could have a
little Berner picnic at a nearby park.  Please reply to me if you are
interested and I'll keep you posted on the developments.

I have no affiliation with Care A Lot other than I love the place, they have
the cheapest prices in town on all things pet (dog, cat, reptile) and have a
large, pet-friendly warehouse where leashed pets are welcome, all the time.
They have a website, www.carealotpets.com, if you are interested in
pre-shopping...

It would be really great to meet some of you since I'm new to Berners but
have already decided I definitely need another one!!!

Wendy Keene, Klarsson (Big Berner Boy) and Lilah (the right colored Sheltie)
Hampton, VA



PetSmart...puppy classes

2003-06-30 Thread BunsenBerners
What's the story on these.  One of my puppy people wants to take classes here.  My 
first reaction is UGH.  What do you all think?  Does anyone know their training 
methods?  Are they positive or negative trainers?  Does it vary by area or is it 
consistant?  I am located in CT.  Thanks.
Briana
Bunsen Berners



Fw: asking for your help to save my bernese puppy

2003-06-30 Thread Swisskiss BMD
This is a heartbreaking email that I received last night, the sad reality is
that this is what is happening to our breed.
The number of Berner puppies in pet shops, x-bred and unregistered litters
advertised in the papers is now common when only a few years ago it was
unheard of, I fear what the future holds for our breed.

Madeline
Swisskiss Bernese Mountain Dogs
'Loyal  Loving  Companions'
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.swisskiss-bmd.com
Don't Breed If You Don't Rescue!

Subject: asking for your help to save my bernese puppy


>   to whom it may concern
>i bought my first bmd puppy from local pet shop on 11may03, i
> discovered that it is very lovely and
>enjoyable . then i bought another bmd puppy which is 6 weeks old,
> three weeks later 31may03
>from the same local pet shop. however, after the first free health
> check up, my second puppy
>was found to have a diagnosis, congenital heart disease heart
murmur
> graded 5/6. so i returned it
>to the pet shop on 4jun03. i was told that the puppy will recover
> when 6 months old of age or
>later. then the puppy was stored in the pet shop these few weeks.
due
> to love,care and
>concern,i always went to pet shop to see the puppy to see how was
the
> situation. i requested
>to the the pet shop owner to have another check up hopefully to
have
> good news.
>unfortunately, i was given the same answer. i dont want the puppy
> stay in the pet shop crate
>another few weeks waiting for disposal, i paid the pet shop
handling
> charge and got the puppy
>back my home on 27jun03.
>now, i have problems to save my sick puppy. how can i handle this
> kind of disease?
>my to puppies always fight for domination and i dont want the sick
> puppy to have any accident
>due to any fighting exercise. what can i do right now? is there any
> place to save my sick puppy so
>i can prolong his life? do i need to do ultrasound to search for a
> detailed situation? or ask for heart
>   surgery?
>
>  plz reply
>
>  Richmond, BC.
>
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Goat in the House!

2003-06-30 Thread Jean Cheesman
Phew

Gone ever so hot and humid again!!

Got woken up around 5.30am with torrential rain, dogs barking, cats
everywhere a leaping and goats kicking up a terrible fuss! Hah! Was so hot
last night had not put the goats in the shed, left one tethered near the
kitchen door and the other loose on the bank behind the house, all doors and
windows wide open! Well, when the heavens opened goat on the loose came in
the house, they hate getting wet! So picture us all at this Ungodly hour of
the morning with Abbi in the kitchen and sister Elli still outside going
berserk! Honest the cats and dogs did not know what to do apart from jump on
me and wake me up! Hastily pulled on me wellies, chased Abbi out, and went
to let Elli off her tether and both goats fled to their shed! Closed down
some doors and windows and got all the cats and dogs inside again!

Thankfully, there was no-one around with a camera!! Don't ask what I was
wearing apart from the wellies!!!

Then was a lot cooler! When the downpour stopped, me and the Dogs went for
wonderful walk up in the woods and the cats and ponies came too! (Sunny is
doing really well! Walking off-leash now and back to normal!)

This evening is getting hot and humid again, suspect more torrential rain
tonight!!

Only put the goats out on the yard today, now in their shed again, enough
excitement for one day!

All Love,

Jean, Sunny, Sim, Barney and the Longlease Gang

http://bernese.biz



Re: Beware, another virus around!

2003-06-30 Thread berner1
People have reported getting this one with my email address on it, I know I've gotten 
it with the address of some of my friends, so do NOT open any attachments unless you 
know who is sending it to you and why. When in doubt - delete!

And update that virus scan software, keeping it current is the best way to prevent 
problems!

Pat Long (& Luther)
Berwyn PA

Check any e-mail over the Web for free at MailBreeze (http://www.mailbreeze.com)



correction

2003-06-30 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
>From my last post -- I want to clarify that the puppy is indeed
symptomatic -- not asymptomatic. In other words, the puppy already has
symptoms of her INHERITED elbow dysplasia.

Mary-Ann Bowman
Utah



Elbows and caution

2003-06-30 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
I just spoke with an acquaintance about her  puppy. She purchased the puppy
as a show/breeding prospect. At nine months old, this puppy is symptomatic
with elbow dysplasia and will be spayed. The person's hopes and dreams about
a show dog that she could one day breed just went up in smoke -- she cannot
even show the puppy because her gait is affected by the bad elbows.

Bad things happen even with the very best of intentions. Breeding is always
something of a gamble, and we never know what cards we will be dealt. But
isn't it important to stack the deck in our favor in the ways that we can,
and in the favor of those who have so much pinned on that small, sweet
puppy?

This dysplasic and asymptomatic puppy is at least the third generation of
failed elbows on the maternal side. She is from a breeder who has more than
once stated in a public forum that dysplasia is not necessarily genetic.
Well, does three generations of failed elbows tell you anything?!  Even the
most careful and ethical breeders will produce problems but let's review the
definition of insanity -- doing the same thing and expecting different
results.

Continuing to breed dysplasic dogs is wrong -- plain and simple. It is not
fair to anyone. I once again urge puppy buyers -- check those clearances!!!
Do not accept those lame excuses -- "jumped off a grooming table" or "jumped
off the deck" or whatever other baloney we are fed to excuse elbow
dysplasia.

There is indeed plain bad luck, which can happen to even the most careful
breeder or buyer. But is it bad luck when you are breeding dysplasic bitches
over and over -- for generations??? No -- that is not bad luck at all but I
will leave it to you to label that kind of behavior.

Mary-Ann Bowman
Utah




New A/C 4 day cluster in August - Kansas City

2003-06-30 Thread gabig
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Beware, another virus around!

2003-06-30 Thread Jean Cheesman
Do not fret,

All well here!!!

My AVG picked this one up OK, well, I am scanning all attachments now before
I open even though this is taking up a lot of time!

Came in as from support @ microsoft.nb  (Hackles rose, not microsoft.com?)
Header: Your Subscription, mail addressed to me personally.
Body: Attached details of your recent subscription
Attachment: YourDetails.zip

Hmmm! Well, I had recently re-registered with Microsoft, but didn't like it,
somehow!

Scanned attachment and contained new version of  W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instant
delete!

Just checked and this has just been upgraded to medium risk priority within
the last few hours!

Be very careful out there, they are getting very clever! And do an update on
your antivirus program now, the new DAT files only just went up on McAfee

All Love,

Jean, Sunny, Sim, Barney and the Longlease Gang

http://bernese.biz



Re: First Draft Test by Swissy Club in the Northwest

2003-06-30 Thread Maria Crifasi
Indeed congratulations to Ruth and Cindy!  And do tell us about the herding.
I don't think I've ever heard of herding trials in Maryland.  I know that
Daisy (my Berner) herds instinctively.  When Buddy decides to pretend he
doesn't understand the Come command, I send out Daisy and she herds him
right to me.  Anyone in Maryland know if we have herding?  Or some sort of
test to see if your dog herds?

Maria Crifasi
Home of Daisy and Buddy
Catoctin Mountains, Maryland



Where can I get Berner wallpaper/border

2003-06-30 Thread Jennifer Graves
My daughter REALLY wants Berners on her walls!

Thanks,

Jennifer
Mesa, AZ



Good so far: canine cooling beds

2003-06-30 Thread Jennifer Graves
I have a canine cooler water bed and two Berner boys, one 20 months old, 95
lbs, and the other 4 months old and 45 lbs.  I bought the Canine Cooler on
ebay after seeing a post about it on the Berner L last year.  I think it's
supposed to be about 112 F here today and my dogs will be on that bed a lot
of the day!  They tend to scratch at it and circle before laying down and we
have not had a leak yet.

Jennifer
Mesa, AZ

- Original Message -
From: "S. Walquist and J. Patenaude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 5:23 AM
Subject: canine cooling beds


> Hello--Has anyone tried the canine cooling bed?  Does
> it really work, and does it last?  Thank you,
> Stephanie Walquist
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Clinton Park Show - just pics

2003-06-30 Thread Hugh Hayes
http://www.hotdogfx.com/clinton/Clinton_03.html



Vermont Berner events.....

2003-06-30 Thread Darcy Mangan

Hi Barbara!
I saw your post on the Berner-L concerning Berner events in Vermont.there is not much here in the way of Berner specific events (if any at all!!-which I'd like to help change someday!!!) but the Champlain Valley Kennel club is having a show at the Champlain Valley expo grounds on July 12. That's in Essex Jct., outside Burlington (on your way home I think!) and there are 9 Berners entered in Berner classes. I am due to have a baby sometime that week, so I will not be able to go:(. I just aquired my first of manyI hope!!!Berners, a female from the Barking Bunch in NL, and I adore her to pieces. I am so looking forward to meeting other Berners and thier people soon! My husband and I did make it to the regional specialty in Mass. last month, and absolutely loved seeing the 95+ Berners there!!! Hope you have a great vacation here.sorry for replying personally but I still have not figured out how to get my post on the L. Would love to meet you if you'll be in the area!
Regards,
Darcy Mangan
Cabot, Vermont




 




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Internet Bernese Mountain Dog Consortium's PandaSite

2003-06-30 Thread _Adam Conn
Well, after almost seven years online, the Internet
Bernese Mountain Dog Consortium's PandaSite finally
has its own domain space. It was starting to become a
question of what would come first -- getting the
domain space, winning the lottery, or Panda earning
his CD. [Panda earned the first leg of his CD in his
first try(!) and just missed the second leg.]

So I'm proud to announce, on behalf of Panda and
everyone who has helped build the Internet Bernese
Mountain Dog Consortium's PandaSite over the years,
the new location.

It is now http://BerneseBreeders.org/

Please update your bookmarks (and site links!)

Thanks!

Adam Conn
Panda, Pockets, and Bison
Plymouth, MN

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Fw: Carting Berner and Entle - Day #1

2003-06-30 Thread LeAnn Zogg
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First Draft Test by Swissy Club in the Northwest

2003-06-30 Thread Coral and David Denis
Ruth Neilsen and Cindy Switzler are probably too humble to brag, so I will
brag for them.  On Friday the 27th. the Northwest Greater Swiss Mountain Dog
Club held its first draft test.  There were two Gt. Swiss, one Rottie and
four Bernese  entered.  Very proud to see how Ruth and Cindy and their dogs
worked.  There were three Bernese that passed.  Ruth with Max (who is nine
years old) earned their Open Draft and Cindy with Windee and Katee earned
their Open Draft as well.  It was extremely hot and on the one mile freight
haul it must have been very taxing on them.  These were the only passes as
well.

Today the same Club is holding a AHBA Herding Test and I see Ruth has Winter
entered.  Look forward to hearing how they do

It was so nice to see so many Gt. Swiss and Bernese and two mini Swissies
( Entlebuchers) all in one place.  There is talk of trying to form a Swiss
Dog Group so we can get together and have a lot of fun.

Thank you Ruth and Cindy for making us proud to have our beautiful,
wonderful, clever Bernese, and showing how well they can work.

Coral.



Re: Bungie Cord Leads

2003-06-30 Thread Alan & Susan Kowitz
Hi Christy,

I have two of them gathering dust in the garage.  I did not buy them as
training tools.  They just looked really comfortable w/ handles and all.
The dogs did pull on them and I felt that a good ol' fashioned leash would
work much better.  Because of the give in the bungee material the dogs
really didn't feel it as much when they walk to the end of the leash and
tended to keep on going.

Susan Kowitz, Mercedes, and Bentley
Sequim, WA



RE: Puppies in NJ pet stores

2003-06-30 Thread Fray, Jason (NJ)
There is also a puppy for sale in Marlboro, NJ at the Pet Paradise, just
absolutely horrifying that there are such unresponsible breeders out there.
This one was "allegedly" bred out in Kansas.

-Original Message-
From: Teri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 5:01 PM
To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List
Subject: Puppies in NJ pet stores


Just FYI, this  past week, 2 pet stores in Central NJ have Berner puppies
for sale  $1500. - the pet store at the Phillipsburg mall had a sign up -
not to purchase puppies from puppy miller.  It said that all of their
puppies are from local breeders and they do not support puppy mills.   Can't
imagine any breeder selling their dogs through a pet shop.  It's so sad that
now our berners in the the pet store cages.   Teri



Berner hitch cover?

2003-06-30 Thread Susan Houser
Hello all.  I recently purchased a new vehicle & it came equipped with a 
trailer hitch...does anyone know if they make a hitch cover that has a 
Berner on it?

Thanks in advance,
Sue Houser
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