a scare with Bacchus....again
Hi all Well once again my boy decided to freak me out. He started limping really badly a week or so ago. And this was not on his left front [the bad elbow] but his right front. Well, like all good berner owners, I totally lost it, thought the worst, and was busy writing his obit, figuring it could be nothing other than ostoscarcoma. sighsometimes too much info is a bad thinglol. Got him into the vet and it turns out he sprained the middle 2 toes on his right foot. I have never heard of such a thing. But, boy am I happy! A sprain I can live with. Of course our vet [the cortisone king] gave me cortisone. I have been doing crate rest and leash walking, but he said this is a very slow healing injury. Bacchus isn't complaining or yelping like he did with the ACL injury, he's just limping. My poor boy. He's 8 1/2 and my best friend. The only reason I continue with this vet is he was Mary Townsends vet for like 20 years and knows berners. She is Bacchus's sires owner. So he knows berners but unfortunately isn't ready to accept anything new. Like BARF or not giving regular vaccinations. Sigh. No amount of research I've given him has swayed him. Bacchus' half brother died at 7 after a rabies shot. It was just horrible. Documented by UC Davis. But he [the vet] won't concede that that would have anything to do with my boy. Sorry to rambleglad I have good news. Just thought I'd pass this along and ask if anyone has ever had an injury such as this. Cathi with Bacchus and Ari
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Re: Everything you ever wanted to know about elbows
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carting clinic
apparently there is a carting clinic in virginia this fall. it is a one or two day event. does anyone have the information. i would like woofit to learn carting, but classes are two hours away. a weekend clinic sounds great. thanks andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
Re: BERNER-L digest 4555
My concerns over the years are the need to perform very expensive very invasive procedures on a dog where the outcome is "temporary". (sorry, surgeons are notorious for thinking everything can be fixed by a knife) While by no means a scientist nor in a position to determine outcomes for a large number of dogs with a given problem I have to wonder what studies would show the long term prognosis would be for a dog that was not given surgery but instead treated in the manner a dog will be treated post surgery - glucosamine, chondroitin, rimadyl, adequan, and weight control. That is exactly what Dr Schulz is working towards, verifiable data that something actually helps--surgical or not. He's right up front saying that he is not sure that arthroscopy will be beneficial unless there are loose bodies. He is brining as much science to this as possible and I'm pretty sure he's on the right track. His mainstays of therapy are those you mention above. The advantage of arthroscopic surgery is twofold. First it lets you know exactly what is going on in the joint, as I mentioned xrays are not reliable. Second if there are loose bodies they can be removed. If they are left in they will cause more damage. In Blooms case, he got a fair amount of range of motion back post-op so they must have been getting in the way a bit. I wondered if what was happening was more of the mortar and pestle action of the joint over time "grinding" down any fragments to smaller osteocytes along with the ulna and radius returning to normal position as the dog reached maturity. At least in humans this doesn't happen--in general the fragments create more damage and frequently more fragments. The radius and ulan probably don't change much--they are through growing and if (and its a big if according to Dr.Schulz) the ED is cause d by inconguities (ie abnormal length-remember measured in millimeters which can not be reliably diagnosed by xray) the incongruities would remain and not be subject to much change. I feel that until something more permanent and effective is an available option for dogs than the "temporary" surgeries currently being offered the treatment of neutraceuticals and anti inflammatories, weight control, and light to moderate ongoing exercise is an option for owners also Perhaps I was long winded, but that is pretty much Dr Schulz point that the mainstay of the therapy is just as you've described. The benefit of the arthroscopy is to establish exactly what is going on and to remove any fragments to prevent the damage they are causing. He only proceeds past that point ie to osteotomy after all else fails. He basically considers osteotmy the very last choice.(How bout that folks a surgeon who is reluctant to do an operation he has invented.) sorry I wasn't clearer on this point Tim Help protect your PC: Click here to go to the Mcafee.com free online virus scan.
Re: no-pull devices
Hi--One thing you can do to teach your dog correct behavior for greeting new people etc., is to do a body block, which means simply using your body to interrupt her. You just step into the area where she is going (you don's push her or step on her toes), ans she will most likely rememeber you're with her, since she got pumped dull of adrenaline. (Oh right, I'm with you). Then you can have her sit, and treat her. (If you've been doing Positive Reinforcement training, this will be easy. If you haven't I recommend you find a trainer using these methods). If she tries to get around you, you simply keep blocking her. You may need to move her away from what is over-stimulating her. Once she is paying attention, using a clicker first or Yes!, treat her, then you can move closer. You should practice this at home first with a friend in an environment with low distractions, and then gradually increase the distractions. You are then teaching her self-control, and she will learn that self-control brings good things, like treats or pets from the new person. If she loses her self-control, you simply step in again, regain her attention, and repeat the above steps. It takes work. Using a no-pull device by itself doesn't teach her anything. Take care, Stephanie Walquist __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: BERNER-L digest 4555
Hi everyone--If you would like to something to fight the puppy mills in Lancaster, PA, you can go to http://www.hua.org/Prisoners/millpetition1.html and sign a boycott petition. Stephanie Walquist __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Puppy Rescue
All On August 13, Amy Kessler sent out a general alert for a puppy who needed rescue and asked for donations. Has anyone heard anything else about this puppy? Thanks, Andie Reid Wilmington, NC
Lancaster Boycott
Stephanie, Thank you for posting this, and remember to boycott as well!! We've had other posts about this over the years, and I know a great many people who refuse to spend money in Lancaster. I'm hoping that Governor Rendell will help to make some changes in the conditions in that county, he's been involved with Golden Retriever rescue for many years. He's already made some new appointments that should help. Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA -Original Message- From: S. Walquist and J. Patenaude http://www.hua.org/Prisoners/millpetition1.html and sign a boycott petition.
Re: Everything you ever wanted to know about elbows
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FYI: Articles on Health, Orthopedic evaluations, etc.
While doing some searching for information on Pano, I ran across this site with articles written by Dr. Fred Lanting http://siriusdog.com/articles.htm I especially found his article concerning OFA, PennHip an GDC interesting: http://siriusdog.com/hip_update-2003.htm The health link has various articles written by Dr. Jean Dodds http://siriusdog.com/health.htm Pat Tackett Texas __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Berner is pet store
Hi Everyone, I don't know if this has been posted already. A friend of mine who lives in Annapolis Md saw a Berner pup in the pet store in the Annapolis Mall. Maybe there is someone on this list who would like to check it out? Marjorie in Rhode Island
Re: Gentle Leader
Jane My dog has been wearing the Gentle Leadere since last July and still rubs and throws himself on the ground when I first put it on. I either ignore or give him a good tug on the lead. It is delightful to walk with him when he is wearing it. And I don't use it all of the time, but put it on just to remind him who is boss. Your friend should give it more time. Esta Dalsass NJ
Re: BERNER-L digest 4553
Joye Wow. Those prizes are awesome. I just put my check into the mail today.. Hope it will arrive in time. Esta Dalsass NJ
