Re: BERNER-L digest 4259

2003-02-13 Thread EKDAL3
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Re: BERNER-L digest 4259

2003-02-08 Thread BernerFolk
Hi Jenn,

 How do I know the breeder I have pick is a reputable breeder? 

I look for *responsible* breeders.  There are many breeders with 
reputation, ie: well known...but that doesn't mean they are necessarily 
*responsible breeders* which is who I want to deal with.

There are many things responsible breeders do and don't do that sets them 
apart from people who are simply interested in taking your money.

Responsible breeders screen their dogs for hereditary diseases to minimize 
the risk of passing them on to their puppies.  Most of these problems aren't 
visible, they require expert evaluation to detect.  Before breeding, my dog 
was *certified* free of hip dysplasia, elbow dysplasia, eye diseases, von 
Willebrands Disease, and heart defects.  The examinations and certifications 
were done by *board certified*  radiologists, opthalmologists, cardiologists, 
and using DNA.  They were NOT declaration made by my vet.

*** The responsible breeder will make available to you *copies* of the 
clearance certificates for the diseases the sire and dam of the litter were 
screened for BEFORE you sign a contract or give a deposit.***

Instead of providing paperwork for the pedigree, clearances, titles, their 
contract, etc... profiteers will speak in general terms.  Statements like:
Her hips are good, 
My vet says she's healthy as can be, 
The pups are from Champion lines, 
I don't have cancer in my lines, 
I've never had a problem with (hips, elbows, etc),
I'll send you the paperwork after I receive your deposit,
These pups are from European lines, they don't have the problems Bernese 
here do,
A good friend of mine in Europe sent them to me...

Responsible breeders are happy to arrange a time for you to meet their dogs 
and see how they're raised.  You won't be welcome when very young puppies are 
present or the weekend of their family reunion, but you should be able to 
arrange a mutually agreeable time to VISIT the breed.

Responsible breeders have put a lot of effort into producing a litter of 
mentally and physically sound Bernese.  Expect them to put just as much 
effort into deciding which home will be the best match for each individual 
puppy.  If the breeder doesn't want to get to know you before agreeing to 
sell you a puppy, that says something about how much they care about what 
they produce.

Most *responsible* breeders are actively involved with Bernese in more ways 
than just producing puppies.  They're active in the national and regional BMD 
clubs, they do draft, obedience, therapy work, they mentor newcomers, they 
attend and volunteer to help out at specialties.  In other words, they're 
active in, and give something back, to the BMD community. 

Be sure the person you're dealing with ACTUALLY bred the litter.  I've heard 
of several people who were let to believe the person they spoke with on the 
phone had bred the litter, only to find out when picking up the puppy that 
they had been imported from eastern Europe, weren't AKC registered, and there 
were no health clearances or anything else.  Not many people can walk away 
from the puppy at that point and the profiteers know it.

It's getting harder and harder to know what sort of person you're really 
dealing with as the profiteers are pretty expert at playing with words so 
that you hear exactly what you want to hear.  So maybe the best advice is to 
join and participate in your regional BMD community so you get to know who's 
for real and who's not on a first hand basis.

-Sherri Venditti

  



She seems
  nice. How do I really know that she is right for me?




Re: BERNER-L digest 4259

2003-02-07 Thread Jenn and Scott Waldron
How do I know the breeder I have pick is a reputable breeder? She seems
nice. How do I really know that she is right for me?
Jenn
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 BERNER-L Digest 4259

 Topics covered in this issue include:

   1) Seeking information regarding abdominal carcinomatosis
 by Eric Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   2) RE: weird things berners have eaten
 by Jennifer Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   3) more thyroid thoughts
 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   4) (no subject)
 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   5) hyper thyroid
 by Schoenfeld, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   6) re: trying to get information
 by Canine-Corner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   7) Fw: Rally
 by LeAnn Zogg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   8) normal thyroid range and aggression/dosing
 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   9) Re: Altered Classes
 by Robin Camken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  10) Re: Gunner
 by THOMAS SLIDER [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  11) Weird things Berners have eaten
 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  12) Re: A mouse trick
 by jean cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  13) Re: normal thyroid range and aggression/dosing
 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  14) Re: normal thyroid range and aggression/dosing
 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  15) Re: Weird things berners have eaten
 by Kelliher, Christine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  16) RE Altered Class
 by catherine green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  17) Aggression/Thyroid
 by Don Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  18) Gunner
 by catherine green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  19) Re: Weird things dogs have eaten
 by jean cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  20) Re: Puppy with Peeing Problem (digest 4258)
 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  21) Stevie Pictures and Update!
 by jean cheesman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  22) Weird things Berners eat or is it goble whole
 by Elaine Diedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  23) Everest Pictures
 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]