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BERNER-L Digest 4264

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) auction update
by "Amy Kessler" 
2) Watchung BMD Show Schedule
by "Don Metzler" 
3) Digest 4102
by heytrap 
4) Please change me to individual posts.
by "Linda R. Wilbur" 
5) You've got to laugh!
by "jean cheesman" 
6) Fwd: Florida Berner Rescue Needed
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7) Re: BERNER-L digest 4261
by "BRACKEN'S" 

8) Food for thought
by "Lisa D Allen" 
9) W32.Klez.E removal tools
by hvwhitney 
10) Fussy eaters?
by Melissa Chan 
11) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?????
by Sylvia Katvala 
12) Re: BMDCA Lobby Raffle
by "Janice Parky" 
13) Re: Food for thought
by "Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners" 
14) Digest 4102
by msontag 
15) Re: Weird things eaten 
by "Sharon Greenberg" 
16) Re: Weird things eaten 
by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ATTACHMENT part 2.1 message/rfc822 From: "Amy Kessler" 
To: "Berner l" 
CC: "BARC Group Chat" 
Subject: auction update
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:01:27 -0600

Sorry for the delay in telling everyone what happened yesterday at the
auction, but with a new baby, such a long night and an early morning, it
takes me a while to get anything done!

The auction news is both good and bad. Many of the dogs were scratched from
the auction prior to it starting, and many of Bub Gage's dogs were pulled
mid auction. Our best guess as to the reason is the low bids that the dogs
were bringing. These bids were nowhere near the bid prices that he got last
year and the year before. Of the 15 dogs he had scheduled to be auctioned, I
believe only 5 were actually placed for auction.

The BARC board decided that BARC would not be the outlet for Bub's dogs. In
the
past, these dogs have had numerous health problems, particularly orthopedic
ones, and always severe. Many of you may not be aware that Bub is the source
for many of the pups that have shown up in the pet stores. He can't sell
his dogs here in KS or MO and is having no luck CO. which was another one of
his big
markets. So BARC's board requested that those rescuers going to the auction
on behalf
of BARC NOT bid on the Gage dogs unless they were going at ridiculously low
amounts. Well, we did come home with 1 Gage dog. A male that sold for
450.00. Take note that this is a far cry from the $2500-8100 we paid a year
and two years ago. :-)

As most of you are aware, BARC has placed a "cap" on our bids at the last
several auctions to insure that WE are not the reason for the high prices or
increase in numbers of berners sold at auction. At the last two auctions, we
noted that the prices for Berners have begun to fall and continue to do so.
The number of dogs to be sold in this auction was comparatively high. There
were many more Cavaliers, Pomeranian and Yorkie's than Bernese, and to my
knowledge, their breed clubs have not been at the auctions bidding on their
breeds. We went to the auctions with limits on what we would spend per dog
and how many we could handle in terms of fostering, veterinary care and
transportation.

In the end, BARC came home with 13 dogs. In total,I believe there were
approximately 30 Berners sold. I don't have the catalog here to give you the
exact numbers, but I can tell you that the auctioneers were expecting BARC
to take the final
bids, they came to BARC with dogs that people had retracted their bid on,
and when
they had a dog with a high reserve that no one else would pay, again they
came looking for BARC. In all of these scenarios, BARC did not buy at the
inflated prices they were asking for, leaving them with no money in their
pockets for all the trouble of offering this large number of Berners.

There were groups of Amish/Mennonites there with their trailers ready to
buy. I am sure that Bob Hughes knew putting SO many berners and rare breeds
up for sale
at once would draw the Amish/Mennonites from PA and he was right.

As much as I would have loved to spend every one's money and come home with
ALL of those dogs, I truly believe that the statement we made was a loud
one, and possibly one of the means to help us to an end.

FYI; Berners were NOT the highest selling dogs at this auction.........the
Leo's have seemed to draw their interest now. There was a Leo that sold for
5000.00
Cavaliers are still in high demand and will probably stay there for a while
since they are so much
easier to house and sell. The highest selling berner at this auction was
$2750.00. This was for a 4 year old female that I suspect they had problems
breeding.
Many of these dogs were there because the breeders/importers could
not sell the dogs. Others I think have learned that raising and selling this
breed is NOT going to be as easy as most breeds because the true berner
lovers are SO much more aggressive about education and protecting their
breed. So it is a double-edged sword.......we are glad they are having a
tough time breeding and selling the dogs, but we hate to see them show up at
auction.

I hope you are all as pleased as I am with the job these wonderful BARC
people did. It is not easy to go to these auctions, but it is even tougher
when you are sent with instructions and limitations.

If any one has ANY questions, please feel free to ask.
I am always available in any way that I can be of help.

Thank you again Gary, Penny, Liz and Jim.....ya did good!

Amy R. Kessler
LionHeart Bernese
BARC, Inc.
PO Box 472892
Aurora, Co 80047


www.barcinc.com





> ATTACHMENT part 2.2 message/rfc822 From: "Don Metzler" 
To: "BernerDigest" 
Subject: Watchung BMD Show Schedule
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:31:21 -0500

Hi,

The Watchung BMD site does not list the show schedule. Since a good number of you 
folks on this digest below to the Watchung BMD club, could you please let me know what 
the schedule looks like for the next couple of months. I would be interested in seeing 
the carting as well as conformation trials. I would like to swing bye and put a face 
to some of the names. Thanks!

Diane Metzler
NJ > ATTACHMENT part 2.3 message/rfc822 From: heytrap 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Digest 4102
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:35:10 -0600

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> ATTACHMENT part 2.4 message/rfc822 From: "Linda R. Wilbur" 
To: "Berner L, Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing" 
Subject: Please change me to individual posts.
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 14:35:11 -0500

Please change. Thanks.

Linda R. Wilbur
Henrietta, NY
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> ATTACHMENT part 2.5 message/rfc822 From: "jean cheesman" 
To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" 
Subject: You've got to laugh!
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:55:44 -0000

Hi All,

Earlier today I had put a Guestbook on the Histio Roll Call WebPage I am
busily constructing at the moment and a little later had the usual
confirmation mail back from from the host server. Here's part of the
message:

>>>You've just created the Web ID: histiocytosis for yourself, and
>>>we couldn't be happier!

Well, you've got to laugh!

BTW All those of you on the original Roll Call who have sent me pics or
promised to send, biggest thanks! Starting to look like a proper website!
Those of you who haven't responded to all those personal mails I sent out, I
hope you have a good excuse and were away for the weekend or only have a
computer at work!!
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