Re: Carob

[Pat Long Paul Dangel]

I haven't seen this answer yet, but I'm not current on all the List
traffic yet.

Carob has no chocolate in it, and also has no theobromine, so I suppose
it would be safe for dogs. Does anyone know for sure?

Pat Long ( Luther)
Berwyn PA

RE: Carob

[Andrea Brin]

it should be, but it is so closely related to soy that i would not use it.

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Carob has no chocolate in it, and also has no theobromine, so I suppose
it would be safe for dogs. Does anyone know for sure?

Re: Carob

[Mike Alexander]

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From: Chris /or Dave River [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  They ALL loved
 chocolate.  They ALL lived normal, healthy lives.

I'm glad that you have never had any problems, but my way of thinking is
that, if they don't need it, and if there is any question whatsoever about
it's affects, why give it to them? There are lots of safe treats that my
dogs love, so there is no need to take a chance giving them chocolate.

Besides, if I did want to give my dogs chocolate, then I would have to start
keeping it in the house, and I would probably eat most of it myself, and I
REALLY don't need it!  ;-)

...Mike

Re: Carob/Chocolate Toxicity

[Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners]

 I had a Newf do a raid on my 3+ pounds of fudge I had bagged for gifts one
Christmas - when we weren't home, obviously, and, though he was a very
thirsty dog and did develop diarrhea, he was just fine.  If there was any
way chocolate should have killed a dog, he was it.

Hi Chris,

Actually if the fudge was made with Milk Chocolate it would not have been a
fatal dose for a normal sized adult Newf.
With Milk Chocolate the toxic level of chocolate is calculated at:
1 oz. per 1 lb. of body weight so

A 2 lb. dog could die from 2 oz. of milk chocolate, whereas a 96 lb. dog
could die from 6 lbs. of milk chocolate and a 160 lb. dog could die from
eating 10 lbs. of milk chocolate.

Semi-sweet chocolate toxicity is calculated at: 1 oz per 3 lbs. body weight.
3 x's more toxic than milk chocolate.
A 3 lb. dog would die from eating 1 oz.
A 30 lb. dog would die from 10 oz
A 96 lb. dog would die from 32 oz. or 2 lbs.

With Baker's Chocolate:

Toxicity calculated at:
1 0z per 9 lbs. body weight.
3 x's more toxic than semi-sweet, and 9 x's more toxic than milk chocolate.
So a 3 lb. dog who ate only 1/3 of an ounce could die.

2 oz. per 18 lbs.
3 oz. per 27 lbs.
4 oz. per 36 lbs.
5 oz. per 48 lbs.
6 0z. per 54 lbs.
7 oz. per 63 lbs.
8 0z. per 72 lbs.
9 oz. per 81 lbs.
10 oz. per 90 lbs.
11 oz. per 99 lbs.

Website:
http://www.talktothevet.com/ARTICLES/DOGS/chocolatetoxic.htm

Here is an article about Daisy a 12 year old Golden who ate a 6 lb. box of
chocolates and what she went through in order to survive:
http://www.vetheart.com/choc.html

IMO Chocolate can be deadly and should be kept away/out of reach of dogs.
Giving dogs chocolate in small amounts will only make it more likely that
they will seek it out.
So, especially during the holidays, be careful, keep chocolate out of reach
of your pets.

Bernerly,

Mary

Jeff  Mary Chapdelaine
SnoBear Berners
N. California, USA
http://snobear.freeyellow.com