Youngest Bernese Sire

2003-02-10 Thread BERNERINFO
Hi Guys,

The latest issue of the UK Kennel Club Breed Records Supplement has published 
details of a Bernese litter sired by a male who was just 21 weeks old at the 
time of mating - 7 months old at the date his 20 month old partner whelped 
9 puppies (she was the youngest Bernese dam listed in that issue too.)

This has caused a great deal of comment amongst Bernese breeders and owners 
here - as you can imagine!

Have any of you ever heard of such a young Bernese siring a litter?  

Jude Simonds.
Coliburn UK




Re: Youngest Bernese Sire

2003-02-10 Thread Eileen Morgan


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 The latest issue of the UK Kennel Club Breed Records Supplement has
published
 details of a Bernese litter sired by a male who was just 21 weeks old at
the
 time of mating - 7 months old at the date his 20 month old partner
whelped
 9 puppies (she was the youngest Bernese dam listed in that issue too.)

 This has caused a great deal of comment amongst Bernese breeders and
owners
 here - as you can imagine!

 Have any of you ever heard of such a young Bernese siring a litter?

Yikes! Sounds like perhaps the breeder was caught out thinking Mr. Guy was
not yet old enough or ready to breed. I would guess this was not a planned
breeding, but perhaps it was. Dogs can be very determined about things like
the mating imperative.

I don't know about young dogs, but I know of a few cases where a colt bred
his mother (or another broodmare out in the pasture with them) before being
weaned; the youngest of those was about 6-7 months. Normally, horses don't
get interested in that sort of thing until a few years old.

Eileen Morgan
The Mare's Nest
http://www.enter.net/~edlehman


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Re: Youngest Bernese Sire

2003-02-10 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 2/10/2003 6:15:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Have any of you ever heard of such a young Bernese siring a litter?  

Jude,
Here in the US, we have NO way of knowing the age at which a dog or bitch 
produces their first litter.   Sires  dams are entered in the stud book only 
once, when their first litter is registered.  Unfortunately, the stud book 
doesn't include their birthdate and the time lag between the litter's DOB and 
their publication in it varies so we can't be at all sure of the dog or 
bitch's age at the time of breeding.

-Sherri Venditti