RE: thyroid/aggression

2003-02-06 Thread Rose Tierney
Hi Vicki,
It is not sufficient to just measure the T4. A full panel needs to be done
and Michigan State University or Cornell will do this for your vet and
interpret the findings. It is potentially dangerous to boost a dog's
thyroid level too high, there are diseases that can result. If your boy is
aggressive you need to find yourself a behaviourist registered with the
Association of Pet Dog Trainers who can properly evaluate him. Aggression
is often misunderstood and may result from a multitude of causes. Can you
describe specific incidents of his demonstrating aggression and the
circumstances leading up to it and how you dealt with it at the time. What
is his age, is he neutered, been socialised and obedience trained? Has he
demonstrated shyness as a puppy and is now overly defensive? Are his joints
sound? Many things to take into account so it would be best if we can steer
you towards a behavorist skilled in dealing with aggression.

Berners tend to be on the low side of normal and if he is truly hypothyroid
and actually needing supplementation then you must start with low doses and
test every two weeks until the right dose is established and then retest at
least every six months.

Rose Tierney




Re: thyroid/aggression

2003-02-06 Thread gwebara

On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:42:25 -0500 Rose Tierney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Berners tend to be on the low side of normal and if he is truly 
 hypothyroid

Actually this is one of those issues I am questioning. I have been told
that Bernese and other large and giant breeds tend to be on the low side
of normal. These dogs also tend to have shorter lifespans. Does one have
anything to do with the other? I do not know. 
Idiopathic thyroiditis may be ignored since all T3 T4 and cTSH normals
are within the normal values (albeit may be low normal). It's only the
TgAA that is elevated. The endocronology report on my bitch with this
type of report came back saying she was NOT hypothyroid YET. By placing
her on medication all her values are not mid to upper normal and the TgAA
is back to normal range. 

 and actually needing supplementation then you must start with low 
 doses and
 test every two weeks until the right dose is established and then 
 retest at
 least every six months.

According to Dr. Jean Dodds (and I know not everyone believes in her
findings) thyroid supplements for dogs that are hard to diagnose or such
as the case above or one that is borderline or low normal can be done
safely
for a 6-8wk period following the standard dose recommendations. Once
correct dose is established then yearly testing is recommended

Susan Ablon
Gweebarra BMD
Balch Springs, Tx
http://www.pageweb.com/gwebara




thyroid/aggression

2003-02-05 Thread Vicki Fallin
We have had aggression problems with our male Samson.  One of the
recommendations we have been given is thyroid replacement therapy to
boost his thyroid to the upper part of normal or higher (his level is
1.3 normal 1-4).  

 

Has anyone experienced problems with use of thyroid medication?

 

Other changes we have made are in his dog food (lower protein)  he
works for what he used to get just for being so cute. 

 

Thank you for any input.

 

Vicki Fallin




Re: thyroid/aggression

2003-02-05 Thread gwebara
The only problem I have seen is if the thyroid supplementation tends to
be to high the dog seems a bit hyper. I recently lowered the dose of my
girl on supplementation from .8mg to .6mg. I will test to be sure she is
therapeutic in a couple more months. I have noticed that she appears
adequately energetic without seeming nervous or hyper.

Susan Ablon
Gweebarra BMD
Balch Springs, Tx
http://www.pageweb.com/gwebara

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:29:10 -0500 Vicki Fallin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 We have had aggression problems with our male Samson.  One of the
 recommendations we have been given is thyroid replacement therapy 
 to
 boost his thyroid to the upper part of normal or higher (his level 
 is
 1.3 normal 1-4).