Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > If from inside Daphile, you should before DISABLE "Native" in file > types. > > That's correct, you shouuld DISABLE native and enable DxF/FLAC (for real > SB) using DSDPLAY or C-3PO, This is automatic in LMS, probably Daphlile > is making something weird here. > > The answer is YES, if using LMS and DSDPLAY, C-3PO or (rigth) > custom-convert,conf commands. > > It should be YES also using Daphile, BUT not with native AND real > squeezebox. > > This is the problem you are facing: no matter what tool you try to use, > real SB could not play 'native' DSD, you should disable that choice, > then use whatever you like to inform LMS what transcoding you like to > apply. Thanks for the help... I'd like to play DSF files without having to wrap them in a FLAC container. Looks like I'm going to build a Raspberry Pi based Squeezelite player. I'd like to keep my Squeezebox Touch but only if someone can get it to play DSF. Martin mhconley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40647 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Mac: can you please store Installed Plugins somewhere else than in the cache folder?
pippin wrote:
> The Mac has a folder tree for Caches, it's this tree where LMS installs
> the plugin data, not the application data ("Application Support") tree
> where e.g. preferences and - ironically - LMS provided plugins are
> stored.
>
> The Cache tree is explicitly for purgeable data so the OS could try to
> free up space there, that would be expected behavior.
>
Thanks I don't have a Mac - so I needed background.
> Getting the plugin directories off this tree is what this thread is
> about, I believe.
As I understand it, the OP suggested just moving the
Cache/Plugins/InstalledPlugins directory - I'm saying this won't work
because plugin-data.yaml is saved in top level cache directory so you
have to put the LMS Cache directory somewhere else and not in the Mac
folder tree of Caches perhaps by using the LMS "--cachedir" parameter on
the command line. This would mean OP has to clear LMS Cache manaually.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Mac: can you please store Installed Plugins somewhere else than in the cache folder?
bpa wrote:
>
> How does the Mac "know" the Cache directory is a cache directory - it
> cannot assume just by name ?
>
The Mac has a folder tree for Caches, it's this tree where LMS installs
the plugin data, not the application data ("Application Support") tree
where e.g. preferences and - ironically - LMS provided plugins are
stored.
The Cache tree is explicitly for purgeable data so the OS could try to
free up space there, that would be expected behavior.
>
> Would it not be better to get the Cache directory off this list.
Getting the plugin directories off this tree is what this thread is
about, I believe.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Mac: can you please store Installed Plugins somewhere else than in the cache folder?
afriend wrote: > Is reinstalling a plugin as simple as putting the folder back in the > -Installed Plugins- folder or is there more to consider? For example, is > there a file where LMS stores a list of installed plugins or does it > just scan the "installed plugins" folder? No. The installer plugin keeps track of the installed plugins in the Cache/plug-data.yaml file. If any of the "installed" plugins are deleted, the plugin installer will automatically reinstall using the plug-data.yaml file. How does the Mac "know" the Cache directory is a cache directory - it cannot assume just by name ? How is it excluded from backup process ? Is this part of the installation process ? Where is the list of temporary directories that can be deleted/excluded from backup kept on a Mac ? Would it not be better to get the Cache directory off this list. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109206 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Mac: can you please store Installed Plugins somewhere else than in the cache folder?
pippin wrote: > it does all kinds of weird stuff True. And not only when running out of disk space (which happens sometimes to me, very small SSD...). And as I've come to know the cache folder as unreliable I guess I was just surprised that LMS stores so much in such a delicate place, esp. the *installed* plugins. But ok, that's not going to change obviously... so I suppose I better make to -manual- backup of my installed plugins as suggested because most backup software does not include the cache folder. mherger wrote: > If you want to be sure you have a copy of those plugins, download them, > put them aside. But don't rely on them remaining in the cache folder. Once I tried to 'reinstall' a plugin by putting a copy of its folder (named like the plugin) back into the -installed plugins- folder (the one in the cache folder). All went well - until I tried to install another plugin and the 'reinstalled' one had just disappeared. Is reinstalling a plugin as simple as putting the folder back in the -Installed Plugins- folder or is there more to consider? For example, is there a file where LMS stores a list of installed plugins or does it just scan the "installed plugins" folder? Thanks for your help. afriend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109206 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
mhconley wrote: > Yes, Daphile, Triode DSDPlayer. > > I tried C-3PO but it did not change the DFF or DSF settings nor allow > additional options.Martin If from inside Daphile, you should before DISABLE "Native" in file types. mhconley wrote: > > The only choices for DFF and DSF are Native or Disabled. That's correct, you shouuld DISABLE native and enable DxF/FLAC (for real SB) using DSDPLAY or C-3PO, This is automatic in LMS, probably Daphlile is making something weird here. mhconley wrote: > > So back to my main question: > Will the *Squeezebox Touch* play DSF files or do I need to use > foobar2000 to put them in a FLAC container?. The answer is YES, if using LMS and DSDPLAY, C-3PO or (rigth) custom-convert,conf commands. It should be YES also using Daphile, BUT not with native AND real squeezebox. This is the problem you are facing: no matter what tool you try to use, real SB could not play 'native' DSD, you should disable that choice, then use whatever you like to inform LMS what transcoding you like to apply. mhconley wrote: > > Thanks, > Martin Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > Is that Daphile? > > Daphile has it's own transcoding, looks strange to me DFF/DSF Native > with a real SB (it's allowed only with squeezelite), but is so, better > ask to Kimmo. Yes, Daphile, Triode DSDPlayer. mhconley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40647 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
mhconley wrote: > Are you saying the DSF files should play? > > Here are the relevant file type settings: > DFF > DFF Native > FLAC dsdplay > > DSF > DSF Native > FLAC dsdplay > > FLAC > AIFF flac > FLAC Native > MP3 flac/lame > PCM flac > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Martin Is that Daphile? Daphile has it's own transcoding engine, but wat looks strange to me is "DFF/DSF Native"if uisng a real SB, it should go the route FLAC dsdplay, instead. Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
mhconley wrote: > Are you saying the DSF files should play? > > Here are the relevant file type settings: > DFF > DFF Native > FLAC dsdplay > > DSF > DSF Native > FLAC dsdplay > > FLAC > AIFF flac > FLAC Native > MP3 flac/lame > PCM flac > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Martin Is that Daphile? Daphile has it's own transcoding, looks strange to me DFF/DSF Native with a real SB (it's allowed only with squeezelite), but is so, better ask to Kimmo. Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
marcoc1712 wrote: > With DSD_PLAY plugin installed it should work, converting everything to > PCM. Probably you should check FYLE TYPE conversion settings for DFS. > C-3PO plugin could do the same plus some additional processing. Are you saying the DSF files should play? Here are the relevant file type settings: DFF DFF Native FLAC dsdplay DSF DSF Native FLAC dsdplay FLAC AIFF flac FLAC Native MP3 flac/lame PCM flac Any suggestions? Thanks, Martin mhconley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40647 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] LMS 7.9 and DSD
mhconley wrote: > I've read everything I can find on playing DSD on LMS and have a > question. > > My setup: > Synology DS918+ > - Wi-Fi - > Squeezebox Touch > - USB - > Topping DX7s DAC > > LMS Info: > Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 0011.1527861596 @ Fri Jun 1 > 16:21:00 CEST 2018 > Hostname: A_NAS_Server > Server IP Address: 192.168.1.76 > Server HTTP Port Number: 9002 > Operating system: Synology DiskStation - EN - utf8 > Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux > Perl Version: 5.24.0 - x86_64-linux > Audio::Scan: 0.95 > IO::Socket::SSL: 2.037 > Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) > Total Players Recognized: 1 > > DSDPlayer (v1.0) installed: > Enable DSD-over-PCM is checked > Soxr Quality: Very High Quality > Soxr Filter: Intermediate Phase > Soxr Steep Filter: Soxr Steep Filter > > Squeezebox Touch info: > Version: 7.8.0 r16754 > EDO installed > > My system plays up to 24 bit 192kHz FLAC files without issue. > > I have several DSF files from different sources. The all play fine when > the Topping DX7s is plugged into my PC. > > I get this error when I try to play the DSF files on the Touch: > Problem: Can't open file for: SONG TITLE > > If I convert the files using foobar2000 to 24 bit 176.4kHz FLAC using > the Super Audio CD Decoder (foo_input_packeddsd) they play fine. The > Topping DX7s correctly reports them as 2.82MHz DSD files. > > Finally, my question: Must I convert all my DSF files to play them on my > Squeezebox Touch? > > Thanks, > Martin With DSD_PLAY plugin installed it should work, converting everything to PCM. Probably you should check FYLE TYPE conversion settings for DFS. C-3PO plugin could do the same plus some additional processing. Author of C-3PO plugin, Squeezelite-R2, Falcon Web interface - See www.marcoc1712.it marcoc1712's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101641 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
