Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-12-04 Thread steffen

mherger wrote: 
  First i thought that any locales are broken. But i checked them and
 even
  the mounted Samba-Share has correct Characters.
  My setup is:
  Sheevaplug wheezy hosts the LMS.
  Music is mounted from my Synology (latest DSM) via SMB.
  Corrected locales, rebooted and made a clean Library also.
  My regular Music Library is empty and the music is imported by the
  iTunes Plugin via the SMB mount.
 
 iTunes integration is cool when it works. But having three different
 systems involved (Windows/Mac to create the xml file, one Linux box to
 host it, another one to read and analyze it) is asking for trouble.
 Would it work if the library was on the same system as LMS at least?
 
 Logging is always a good idea.

i have some news. made some tests with one album which contains Special
Characters.
1. iTunes Library via Samba - Album not found
2. local Library directly in file System - works!
3. local Library via Samba - works!
Scanner gives some weird output at least at (3):
/mnt/nas/test/Chilltronica - A Definition N° 1/01 Grotesquely
Beautiful.mp3

But in Albums view, the Name is correctly displayed: Chilltronica - A
Definition N° 1 

So it's at least an iTunes Plugin Problem. if the library would work
locally, i did not test. 
How does the Plugin work? Parse by FileSystem or locate Music Files by
the iTunes XML?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-12-04 Thread Michael Herger
i have some news. made some tests with one album which contains Special 
Characters. 
1. iTunes Library via Samba - Album not found 
2. local Library directly in file System - works! 
3. local Library via Samba - works! 
Scanner gives some weird output at least at (3): 
/mnt/nas/test/Chilltronica - A Definition N° 1/01 Grotesquely 
Beautiful.mp3 
Well here’s the problem: LMS is reading the XML file. You might have written 
the music files on a Mac over NFS to a Linux box, which then exposed those 
files over Samba to Windows, which wrote the filenames it was seeing in a file, 
which then is parsed on the Linux box again. That latter then takes the file 
paths stored in the XML file, which are invalid in the Linux server’s context, 
and tries to match them to its own local paths, which could be in yet another 
encoding. Which means: there are many ways to make this configuration break.

So it's at least an iTunes Plugin Problem. if the library would work 
locally, i did not test. 
How does the Plugin work? Parse by FileSystem or locate Music Files by 
the iTunes XML? 
The plugin is reading the file paths from the XML file, to then read the 
metadata from the actual music files.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-12-03 Thread steffen

mherger wrote: 
 
 No. What version have you been using before? Where is your LMS running? 
 
 Are you scanning iTunes only?
 

Should be any version of 7.8 in the late summer/fall. (sorry did not
keep the last installation file). I am using 7.8 for a long time now.
First i thought that any locales are broken. But i checked them and even
the mounted Samba-Share has correct Characters.
My setup is:
Sheevaplug wheezy hosts the LMS.
Music is mounted from my Synology (latest DSM) via SMB.
Corrected locales, rebooted and made a clean Library also.
My regular Music Library is empty and the music is imported by the
iTunes Plugin via the SMB mount.
In the next days, i will try to import music via the regular Library and
maybe i am going on to switch the logging on...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-12-03 Thread Michael Herger
 First i thought that any locales are broken. But i checked them and even
 the mounted Samba-Share has correct Characters.
 My setup is:
 Sheevaplug wheezy hosts the LMS.
 Music is mounted from my Synology (latest DSM) via SMB.
 Corrected locales, rebooted and made a clean Library also.
 My regular Music Library is empty and the music is imported by the
 iTunes Plugin via the SMB mount.

iTunes integration is cool when it works. But having three different systems 
involved (Windows/Mac to create the xml file, one Linux box to host it, another 
one to read and analyze it) is asking for trouble. Would it work if the library 
was on the same system as LMS at least?

Logging is always a good idea.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-12-03 Thread JJZolx

Just so I have this straight...

Using --novideo --noimage on the command line results in something
different than simply disabling the UPnP plugin?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-12-03 Thread Michael Herger
 Using --novideo --noimage on the command line results in something
 different than simply disabling the UPnP plugin?

From the user’s point of view they’re almost identical. But from a runtime pov 
they’re not: the command line parameters are interpreted like pre-compiler 
statements. The code disabled by those flags isn’t even evaluated. 
Unfortunately disabling the plugin isn’t as thorough as that: while the code 
isn’t executed neither, it’s still initialized.

While this might make a slight difference in memory consumption, the results to 
the user should be exactly the same.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-12-02 Thread Michael Herger

Tried out the Build from 11/29. Look for new Music works now fine with
my iTunes Library, which is mounted via SMB on my Sheevaplug :cool:
But Albums, Tracks with German Umlauts or Special Characters are not
found by the scanner any more (where the filename has some special
Chars)
Did you change there also anything?


No. What version have you been using before? Where is your LMS running?  
Are you scanning iTunes only?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-12-01 Thread justwords

I use Lms on a WD MyBookLive NAS (unsupported install via SSN). Two
questions:
1. can i just install this over the existing Lms 7.8 from earlier this
Year? Or do i have to delete the Old version?
2. i would like to do a clean install of my NAS Firmware. Where
(directories or files) can i find the Important Setting files? I would
like to Save and restore my settings of Lms and of all my Kids Players.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-12-01 Thread steffen

I like the new Changes of the LMS :)
Tried out the Build from 11/29. Look for new Music works now fine with
my iTunes Library, which is mounted via SMB on my Sheevaplug :cool:
But Albums, Tracks with German Umlauts or Special Characters are not
found by the scanner any more (where the filename has some special
Chars)
Did you change there also anything?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-11-29 Thread Wirrunna

7.8.0 - 1385569630, Win7/64, MusicIP, no UPNP, Music  Artist Info,
Spicefly SugarCube.
Ran a new and changed that appeared to work fine and then a clear 
rescan overnight. All appeared to work, playing music now.
Settings, Basic Settings screen looks cleaner.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-11-28 Thread DJanGo

Mnyb wrote: 
 FYI I've been using --noimage --novideo in my settings for a very long
 time , ever since a lot of bizarre things happend with the media scan in
 7.6 :) so all of my beta testing with 7.8 and you plugins have been with
 these things disabled .

+1:D

@ Michael:

did you notice that the Wipe Scan makes some strange things? (That i
didnt understand)
eg my 1st Artist (sort by name and folderstukture where the scanner
starts) is 1Giant Leap.
Only if i drop the .db Files manual (or via script - whats my fav. task)
1 giant Leap gets the id 1 - if i only press wipe scan in the frontend
(or starting the scanner.pl with --wipe) it may gets Id 3 or 3000 or
something else and all Artists after that get one digit higher.

cheers and my big thanks for your work to the last mohican



Gruss

Jan

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-11-28 Thread Michael Herger

did you notice that the Wipe Scan makes some strange things? (That i
didnt understand)


It's not that strange (and shouldn't bother you anyway). The IDs are given  
by the DB automatically. It's just a number which is incremented whenever  
a new record is created. As we don't drop the DB, but only delete the  
records upon rescans, that number keeps getting increased. Eg. if you had  
1000 records, then do a wipe  rescan, the first item would get the ID  
1001. By deleting the file you reset the counter, of course.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-11-28 Thread DJanGo

mherger wrote: 
 As we don't drop the DB, but only delete the records upon rescans

ill noticed that (but you mean drop the table[s] not dropping the
db):cool: [even when everyone knew whats the meaning of db - its just
a catalog - duck under my chair
cause i had some knowledge about big (2 gb) Dbs i always use drop,
create table - cause of its much faster and the db is better compressed
after than (delete * from xyz).

I just thought - if your on the db handling you can add this feature.



Gruss

Jan

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-11-28 Thread gharris999

DJanGo wrote: 
 ill noticed that (but you mean drop the table[s] not dropping the
 db):cool: [even when everyone knew whats the meaning of db - its just
 a catalog - duck under my chair
 cause i had some knowledge about big (2 gb) Dbs i always use drop,
 create table - cause of its much faster and the db is better compressed
 after than (delete * from xyz).
 
 I just thought - if your on the db handling you can add this feature.
Django: what would you expect the behavior to be like using the
drop/create wipe method on systems whose DBs are on slow media...e.g.
SD cards or such?  Would delete * rescans likely end up being faster on
those systems since the file space remains allocated?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-11-27 Thread Mnyb

FYI I've been using --noimage --novideo in my settings for a very long
time , ever since a lot of bizarre things happend with the media scan in
7.6 :) so all of my beta testing with 7.8 and you plugins have been with
these things disabled .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Changes to the media scanner handling

2013-11-27 Thread Michael Herger

FYI I've been using --noimage --novideo in my settings for a very long
time , ever since a lot of bizarre things happend with the media scan in
7.6 :) so all of my beta testing with 7.8 and you plugins have been with
these things disabled .


Yeah, I'm doing the same on my production server. There are ugly crashes  
on OSX with the media scanner enabled and iTunes disabled... which makes  
me wonder how many people even bother to check such settings.


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