Re: Clarification on bind result

2010-06-01 Thread rams
Is there any update on the following issue.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:16 PM, rams brames...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi ,

 I have the following zone file:

 $ORIGIN td3497.com.

 @ IN SOA udns1.ultradns.net. ppk.yahoo.com. (

 2010052610 ; serial

 10800 ; refresh

 3600 ; retry

 2592000 ; expire

 86400 ; minimum

 )

 cname.chain.td3497.com. 86400 IN CNAME mx.chain.td3497.com.

 mx.chain.td3497.com. 86400 IN MX 34 mx1.chain.td3497.com.

 mx1.chain.td3497.com. 86400 IN MX 34 mx2.chain.td3497.com.

 mx2.chain.td3497.com. 86400 IN MX 34 mx3.chain.td3497.com.

 mx3.chain.td3497.com. 86400 IN A 1.2.3.4

 ramesh.td3497.com. 86400 MX 20 .

 ramesh.td3497.com. 86400 MX 20 mx1.

 *cname.td3497.com. 86400 CNAME .*

  td3497.com. 86400 IN NS udns2.ultradns.net.

 td3497.com. 86400 IN NS udns1.ultradns.net.

 ;End



 I queried for cname domain against bind 9.6.X and got the following
 response

 C:\Documents and Settings\rameshbdig @localhost cname.td3497.com mx

 ;  DiG 9.6.1-P1  @localhost cname.td3497.com mx
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 681
 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;cname.td3497.com.  IN  MX

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 cname.td3497.com.   86400   IN  CNAME   .

 ;; Query time: 15 msec
 ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
 ;; WHEN: Mon May 31 14:10:32 2010
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 47



 Here why authority section is not returned? Actually authority section
 should be returned with SOA right?

 Thanks  Regards,

 Ramesh

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Bind response

2010-06-01 Thread rams
Hi ,

I have the following zone file:
$ORIGIN td3497.com.
@ IN SOA udns1.ultradns.net. ppk.yahoo.com. (
2010052610 ; serial
10800 ; refresh
3600 ; retry
2592000 ; expire
86400 ; minimum
)
cname.chain.td3497.com. 86400 IN CNAME mx.chain.td3497.com.
mx.chain.td3497.com. 86400 IN MX 34 mx1.chain.td3497.com.
mx1.chain.td3497.com. 86400 IN MX 34 mx2.chain.td3497.com.
mx2.chain.td3497.com. 86400 IN MX 34 mx3.chain.td3497.com.
mx3.chain.td3497.com. 86400 IN A 1.2.3.4
ramesh.td3497.com. 86400 MX 20 .
ramesh.td3497.com. 86400 MX 20 mx1.
cname.td3497.com. 86400 CNAME .
 td3497.com. 86400 IN NS udns2.ultradns.net.
td3497.com. 86400 IN NS udns1.ultradns.net.
;End

I queried for cname domain against bind 9.6.X and got the following response
C:\Documents and Settings\rameshbdig @localhost cname.td3497.com mx
;  DiG 9.6.1-P1  @localhost cname.td3497.com mx
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 681
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cname.td3497.com.  IN  MX
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cname.td3497.com.   86400   IN  CNAME   .
;; Query time: 15 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Mon May 31 14:10:32 2010
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 47

Here why authority section is not returned? Actually authority section
should be returned with SOA right?
Thanks  Regards,
Ramesh
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Re: Bind response

2010-06-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 01.06.10 14:16, rams wrote:
 I queried for cname domain against bind 9.6.X and got the following response
 C:\Documents and Settings\rameshbdig @localhost cname.td3497.com mx
 ;  DiG 9.6.1-P1  @localhost cname.td3497.com mx
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 681
 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;cname.td3497.com.  IN  MX
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 cname.td3497.com.   86400   IN  CNAME   .
 ;; Query time: 15 msec
 ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
 ;; WHEN: Mon May 31 14:10:32 2010
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 47
 
 Here why authority section is not returned? Actually authority section
 should be returned with SOA right?

For CNAME answers, the authority for destination (.) is returned and
authority is returned if it's known and configured.

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Re: Bind response

2010-06-01 Thread David Forrest

On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:


On 01.06.10 14:16, rams wrote:

I queried for cname domain against bind 9.6.X and got the following response
C:\Documents and Settings\rameshbdig @localhost cname.td3497.com mx
;  DiG 9.6.1-P1  @localhost cname.td3497.com mx
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 681
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cname.td3497.com.  IN  MX
;; ANSWER SECTION:
cname.td3497.com.   86400   IN  CNAME   .
;; Query time: 15 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Mon May 31 14:10:32 2010
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 47

Here why authority section is not returned? Actually authority section
should be returned with SOA right?


For CNAME answers, the authority for destination (.) is returned and
authority is returned if it's known and configured.


And here it is known to be NXDOMAIN when the server is recursive:

[...@maplepark ~]$ dig cname.td3497.com. any

;  DiG 9.7.0-P2  cname.td3497.com. any
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 6782
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;cname.td3497.com.  IN  ANY

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
com.			864	IN	SOA	a.gtld-servers.net. 
nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1275386123 1800 900 604800 86400


;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.102.9#53(192.168.102.9)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun  1 04:56:13 2010
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 107

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max-cache-size query

2010-06-01 Thread Techi
Hallo,
Recently, I faced huge problems with my DNS servers (bind crashed with no 
apparent reason). Some of the symptons were:
* Huge number of connections on our firewalls (15).
* A lot of errors in syslog about max file descriptors limits reached 
(currently on system, the FD limit is 4096, the default of centos)

Anyway, after the proposal of a friend of mine, I removed the the max-cache-
size limit (that was set to 256MB.
After a restart of bind, the FW guys reported a huge drop on connections 
(1)!
Additionally, I have no crashes so far (in contract with 1-2 per week).
So, why:
a. bind generated so much traffic?
b. Is it possible to have bind crash because I could not handle the cache 
clean-up and on the same time to serve requests?

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RE: max-cache-size query

2010-06-01 Thread Todd Snyder
What version of BIND are you running?  If you're getting FD limits, I'd think 
it's an older version with a bug, and your problems might also be alleviated by 
upgrading.

Todd.

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To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: max-cache-size query

Hallo,
Recently, I faced huge problems with my DNS servers (bind crashed with no 
apparent reason). Some of the symptons were:
* Huge number of connections on our firewalls (15).
* A lot of errors in syslog about max file descriptors limits reached 
(currently on system, the FD limit is 4096, the default of centos)

Anyway, after the proposal of a friend of mine, I removed the the max-cache-
size limit (that was set to 256MB.
After a restart of bind, the FW guys reported a huge drop on connections 
(1)!
Additionally, I have no crashes so far (in contract with 1-2 per week).
So, why:
a. bind generated so much traffic?
b. Is it possible to have bind crash because I could not handle the cache 
clean-up and on the same time to serve requests?

Thank you
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Re: max-cache-size query

2010-06-01 Thread Techi
On Tue 01 of Jun 2010 15:43:54 you wrote:
 What version of BIND are you running?  If you're getting FD limits, I'd
  think it's an older version with a bug, and your problems might also be
  alleviated by upgrading.
Version: bind-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2

I cannot upgrade. Company's policy is to use only Centos packages :(
Anyway, I believe that it  is not a true 9.3 since for example, I can set 
the allow-query-cache statement of 9.5. Of course, only RH can say that and 
I am not RH.
Cheers.


 
 Todd.
 
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  [mailto:bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of
  Techi Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 8:36 AM
 To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Subject: max-cache-size query
 
 Hallo,
 Recently, I faced huge problems with my DNS servers (bind crashed with no
 apparent reason). Some of the symptons were:
 * Huge number of connections on our firewalls (15).
 * A lot of errors in syslog about max file descriptors limits reached
 (currently on system, the FD limit is 4096, the default of centos)
 
 Anyway, after the proposal of a friend of mine, I removed the the
  max-cache- size limit (that was set to 256MB.
 After a restart of bind, the FW guys reported a huge drop on connections
 (1)!
 Additionally, I have no crashes so far (in contract with 1-2 per week).
 So, why:
 a. bind generated so much traffic?
 b. Is it possible to have bind crash because I could not handle the cache
 clean-up and on the same time to serve requests?
 
 Thank you
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Re: max-cache-size query

2010-06-01 Thread Adam Tkac
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 03:52:56PM +0300, Techi wrote:
 On Tue 01 of Jun 2010 15:43:54 you wrote:
  What version of BIND are you running?  If you're getting FD limits, I'd
   think it's an older version with a bug, and your problems might also be
   alleviated by upgrading.
 Version: bind-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2
 
 I cannot upgrade. Company's policy is to use only Centos packages :(
 Anyway, I believe that it  is not a true 9.3 since for example, I can set 
 the allow-query-cache statement of 9.5. Of course, only RH can say that and 
 I am not RH.

You are right, it is not a true 9.3.6-P1, it contains numerous
enhancements from later releases (like allow-query-cache).

If you set too low max-cache-size and it is really busy recursion server
(from number of connections it seems it really is) then BIND will
often hit upper cache watermark and will start cache cleanup, which
is, at least in 9.3.X series, quite expensive operation. Additionally,
when cache is too small and cleaned too often, BIND will ask again and
again for the same records, which means huge number of connections.

If you hit again the crash you should probably open a report in
the CentOS tracker.

Regards, Adam

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   [mailto:bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of
   Techi Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 8:36 AM
  To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
  Subject: max-cache-size query
  
  Hallo,
  Recently, I faced huge problems with my DNS servers (bind crashed with no
  apparent reason). Some of the symptons were:
  * Huge number of connections on our firewalls (15).
  * A lot of errors in syslog about max file descriptors limits reached
  (currently on system, the FD limit is 4096, the default of centos)
  
  Anyway, after the proposal of a friend of mine, I removed the the
   max-cache- size limit (that was set to 256MB.
  After a restart of bind, the FW guys reported a huge drop on connections
  (1)!
  Additionally, I have no crashes so far (in contract with 1-2 per week).
  So, why:
  a. bind generated so much traffic?
  b. Is it possible to have bind crash because I could not handle the cache
  clean-up and on the same time to serve requests?
  
  Thank you
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DNSSEC Status...

2010-06-01 Thread Heavy Man
A few questions about DNSSEC...

I understand the root zones are currently getting signed.  Just for sanity 
sake, should I be able to DIG +dnssec a.gtld-servers.net and be able to see a 
RRSIG record (assume I have a valid dnssec recursive name server with a valid 
trust anchor configured).  Check out the following...

[r...@int-dns ~]# dig +dnssec a.gtld-servers.net
;  DiG 9.6.1-P1  +dnssec a.gtld-servers.net
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 54144
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 8, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;a.gtld-servers.net.    IN  A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
a.gtld-servers.net. 171425  IN  A   192.5.6.30
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
gtld-servers.net.   171424  IN  NS  d2.nstld.com.
gtld-servers.net.   171424  IN  NS  f2.nstld.com.
gtld-servers.net.   171424  IN  NS  a2.nstld.com.
gtld-servers.net.   171424  IN  NS  g2.nstld.com.
gtld-servers.net.   171424  IN  NS  l2.nstld.com.
gtld-servers.net.   171424  IN  NS  e2.nstld.com.
gtld-servers.net.   171424  IN  NS  c2.nstld.com.
gtld-servers.net.   171424  IN  NS  h2.nstld.com.
;; Query time: 130 msec
;; SERVER: 10.10.10.1#53(10.10.10.1)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun  1 09:46:13 2010
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 208


Also, referense the following URL..

https://ns.iana.org/dnssec/root.zone.signed

I assume this data is correct.  Is there a security risk publishing this data?  
I understand DNS is public information but why wouldn't the root be signed 
using nsec3 versus nsec?

Thanks.


  

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Re: DNSSEC Status...

2010-06-01 Thread Casey Deccio
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Heavy Man heavyma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 A few questions about DNSSEC...

 I understand the root zones are currently getting signed.


The root zone is currently signed with a DURZ (deliberately unvalidatable
root zone) as part of its deployment.  See the following site for more
information:  http://www.root-dnssec.org/

Just for sanity sake, should I be able to DIG +dnssec a.gtld-servers.net and
 be able to see a RRSIG record (assume I have a valid dnssec recursive name
 server with a valid trust anchor configured).


(As a side note, gtld-servers.net is the domain corresponding to the names
of servers authoritative for TLD servers (e.g., edu, com, net), not the root
zone.)

There is a difference between the name of a zone and the names of the
servers authoritative for that zone, which are the targets of the NS
records.  For example:

$ dig . ns

;  DiG 9.7.0-P1  . ns
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63188
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;.INNS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
.484118INNSd.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSl.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSi.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSh.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSe.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSj.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSm.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSg.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSa.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSf.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSc.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSk.root-servers.net.
.484118INNSb.root-servers.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
a.root-servers.net.144120INA198.41.0.4

The zone origin is ., but the names of the authoritative server are [a-m].
root-servers.net.  In DNSSEC, signing is done on a per-zone basis, so the
signing of the root-servers.net zone is independent of (and unnecessary for)
the signing of the root zone (.).

This being said, if you now query the root servers for DNSSEC RRs pertaining
to the root zone, you will get the following:

$ dig @a.root-servers.net +dnssec . ns

;  DiG 9.7.0-P1  @a.root-servers.net +dnssec . ns
; (2 servers found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8463
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 14, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 21
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;.INNS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
.518400INNSa.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSh.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSj.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSm.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSg.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSe.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSk.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSd.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSc.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSi.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSb.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSl.root-servers.net.
.518400INNSf.root-servers.net.
.518400INRRSIGNS 8 0 518400 2010060707
2010053106 55138 .
xJyVQ+6RhZ7OQZFqFBY+z6xTeLWk7GpGljhp2zmkXVkK1bB3x0DZsdwA
MF7+pyXa3hkUvbG4+MBErWmhiJveV/DyU00kZXrWc8oma82uhLvgBjwf
/q7JArynxkbhrsbFoHT0IBQe9mQBhfJAta9myUEc01EGDVWwvpATMTTM Ktc=

which includes the RRSIG covering the NS RRset for the root zone.

Regards,
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question about bind bug fixed in 9.6.2-P2

2010-06-01 Thread Jack Tavares
From the release notes:

--- 9.6.2-P2 released ---



2876. [bug]   Named could return SERVFAIL for negative responses

  from unsigned zones. [RT #21131]







Question:

Does this bug only occur if dnssec is enabled?

or only if dnssec validation is turned on?

or will it (potentially) occur regardless of whether or not either of these 
options are used?



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Re: max-cache-size query

2010-06-01 Thread Warren Kumari
One obvious solution to keeping  the firewall guys happy would just be  
to make them not burn state entries for the nameserver at all  
Firewalls in front of nameservers cause an ungodly amount of issues  
for no real benefit...



Just sayin'...

W


On Jun 1, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Techi wrote:


Hallo,
Recently, I faced huge problems with my DNS servers (bind crashed  
with no

apparent reason). Some of the symptons were:
* Huge number of connections on our firewalls (15).
* A lot of errors in syslog about max file descriptors limits reached
(currently on system, the FD limit is 4096, the default of centos)

Anyway, after the proposal of a friend of mine, I removed the the  
max-cache-

size limit (that was set to 256MB.
After a restart of bind, the FW guys reported a huge drop on  
connections

(1)!
Additionally, I have no crashes so far (in contract with 1-2 per  
week).

So, why:
a. bind generated so much traffic?
b. Is it possible to have bind crash because I could not handle the  
cache

clean-up and on the same time to serve requests?

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Re: DNSSEC Status...

2010-06-01 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 573607.58516...@web114302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com, Heavy Man writes:
 A few questions about DNSSEC...
 
 I understand the root zones are currently getting signed.  Just for sanit=
 y sake, should I be able to DIG +dnssec a.gtld-servers.net and be able to s=
 ee a RRSIG record (assume I have a valid dnssec recursive name server with =
 a valid trust anchor configured).  Check out the following...

Firstly it would be a.root-servers.net, not a.gtld-servers.net.
Secondly root-servers.net is not signed and doesn't need to be.

 Also, referense the following URL..
 
 https://ns.iana.org/dnssec/root.zone.signed
 
 I assume this data is correct.  Is there a security risk publishing this =
 data?  I understand DNS is public information but why wouldn't the root b=
 e signed using nsec3 versus nsec?

Because there is no benefit to signing with NSEC3.
* The entire zone is publicly available so you don't need the obscuration.
* The zone is so small that you don't need optout.

Also NSEC3 is more expensive to operationally.  The authortative servers
need to do more work to serve the zone and validators need to do more
work to check the answers.

You don't use NSEC3 unless there is a real benefit to using it.  If you
just have a http server and email don't go using NSEC3.

Mark
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Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org
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probleme with dk dkim and dlv for miltiple domain for dkimproxy and bind dnssec

2010-06-01 Thread fakessh
hello all 


hello bind network

I am having problems with my dk and dkim signature of my emails
I have successfully made the process of verification of signatures dnssec
all my domains are correct and good displays on dlv.isc.org
the reason for my problem just the reason that I have updated my postfix
and I have recreated a pair of keys with openssl for dkimproxy

the reason for my questions
one of my domains. in .fr: after validation of signatures by isc dk dkim
said OK
Other areas domains ( other .fr and other .eu ) after validation of
signatures by isc dk dkim said bad


that happens I do not understand


thanks for advice
thanks for help

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