Re: transfer with views

2011-01-01 Thread Alan Clegg
On 1/1/2011 9:15 AM, Gary Wallis wrote:

 You will need to setup one virtual IP for each extra view.

Not since very versions of BIND that are long-since EOL'd.  The FAQ goes
into how to use TSIG keys to deal with picking the right one.

 This is what no one here addresses clearly and upfront:
 
 The truth is that when you need N views, BIND transfer is a royal pain,
 for almost all networks and IT departments.

Setting up views correctly is not simple.  If you HAVE to do it, it's
much easier to do it with BIND than it is to do it with alternative
methods (in my opinion).

 Think about it.

Given choices, I think I'm in agreement with you:  I'd chose to not do
views.

Based on the posts here, the OP is going to do views.  The best thing to
do is provide the best method of replicating those views to the machines
that are providing slave services without using external applications.

If it were me and I had no other choice than to use views, I'd get into
the system and re-wire everything using BIND 9.7.2 and write a set of
scripts that used rndc addzone and rndc delzone to control the
master and all of the slaves, configure TSIG keys to manage zone
transfers between hosts, etc.

 Cheers!

and Happy New Year!

May 2011 be the best one before we all perish in the fires of whatever
is going to happen in 2012!  :)

AlanC



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Re: transfer with views

2011-01-01 Thread Gary Wallis

Alan Clegg wrote:

On 1/1/2011 9:15 AM, Gary Wallis wrote:


You will need to setup one virtual IP for each extra view.


Not since very versions of BIND that are long-since EOL'd.  The FAQ goes
into how to use TSIG keys to deal with picking the right one.


This is what no one here addresses clearly and upfront:

The truth is that when you need N views, BIND transfer is a royal pain,
for almost all networks and IT departments.


Setting up views correctly is not simple.  If you HAVE to do it, it's
much easier to do it with BIND than it is to do it with alternative
methods (in my opinion).


Think about it.


Given choices, I think I'm in agreement with you:  I'd chose to not do
views.

Based on the posts here, the OP is going to do views.  The best thing to
do is provide the best method of replicating those views to the machines
that are providing slave services without using external applications.

If it were me and I had no other choice than to use views, I'd get into
the system and re-wire everything using BIND 9.7.2 and write a set of
scripts that used rndc addzone and rndc delzone to control the
master and all of the slaves, configure TSIG keys to manage zone
transfers between hosts, etc.


Cheers!


and Happy New Year!

May 2011 be the best one before we all perish in the fires of whatever
is going to happen in 2012!  :)

AlanC
Much thanks! I will look into the TSIG key method for view transfers, 
and see if the very conservative (but that I am stuck with) CentOS BIND

version supports it.

Cheers!
Gary
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Re: transfer with views

2011-01-01 Thread Gary Wallis


Alan Clegg wrote:

...

Given choices, I think I'm in agreement with you:  I'd chose to not do
views.

Based on the posts here, the OP is going to do views.  The best thing to
do is provide the best method of replicating those views to the machines
that are providing slave services without using external applications.

If it were me and I had no other choice than to use views, I'd get into
the system and re-wire everything using BIND 9.7.2 and write a set of
scripts that used rndc addzone and rndc delzone to control the
master and all of the slaves, configure TSIG keys to manage zone
transfers between hosts, etc.


Cheers!


and Happy New Year!

May 2011 be the best one before we all perish in the fires of whatever
is going to happen in 2012!  :)

AlanC
Much thanks! I will look into the TSIG key method for view transfers, 
and see if the very conservative (but that I am stuck with) CentOS BIND

version supports it.

Cheers!
Gary
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Found it in a Mark Andrews post:

http://www.mail-archive.com/bind-users@lists.isc.org/msg03593.html

Main snippet:

The general and robust solution is:

acl allviewkeys { key A; key B; key C; key D; };
match-clients { key A; !allviewkeys; subnet A; }
match-clients { key B; !allviewkeys; subnet B; }
match-clients { key C; !allviewkeys; subnet C; }
match-clients { key D; !allviewkeys; subnet D; }

This is easily expandable to many views without having to touch
each view when a new view is added.  The order of the match-clients
acl is important.

Cheers!
Gary
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Entired NS crashed

2011-01-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *,

since ZKT is not able to work over 200.000 Domains on a singel server  I
have coded my own tool which does it!

Now my NS is running DNSSEC and crashed!

To load the 230.000 zones it created a very huge load and  consumed  the
entire memory of 8 GByte.

Question to power hosters:

1)  How many ZONEs do you host per NS?
2)  Whats your CPU speed?
3)  How much memory do yo use?

As far as I can see, 'dig +dnssec www.tamay-dogan.net' give a nice output
but how can I know, the expiration date?

Is this the timestamp here:

tamay-dogan.net.3600IN  RRSIG   SOA 5 2 3600 20110131191903

[ command 'dig +dnssec tamay-dogan.net' ]---
tamay-dogan.net.3600IN  SOA dns1.tamay-dogan.net. 
hostmaster.tamay-dogan.net. 1292829280 10800 3600 604800 86400
tamay-dogan.net.3600IN  RRSIG   SOA 5 2 3600 20110131191903 
20110101191903 12795 tamay-dogan.net. 
lti7l2JlLeIATApQfWp3BdPTH4MiP75crl4921bC1qdOXfWJH4La+L58 
t0hVMmzNaNbLDH36cQwrYdQvaBJHPkQEwi2Mr8WP0jCSp+bpc2lEP6sz 
f+kRGWYITjuxAwFsSdhVR+EQd4pIupa16ylJ65OWcBGlIHbC5eA5KSN4 lTk=
tamay-dogan.net.86400   IN  NSECadmin.tamay-dogan.net. NS SOA 
MX TXT RRSIG NSEC DNSKEY
tamay-dogan.net.86400   IN  RRSIG   NSEC 5 2 86400 20110131191903 
20110101191903 12795 tamay-dogan.net. 
YS5Y44ywYrsjbSJmtFgF9hk8K80VWLuyLRuDxLeO84kXA/hN9i8mzzDy 
XYIoiUwWbyeKxEIhqAdA6gekLU2Z+ZuNsSGnPUcCdfZD+GiWEneeWGg/ 
LcIi9FWTf7J++yGnVMA5Ng6vZ3SgTtiC7r74ZZytm7FkijxCwd8tRyKy a9c=


which I could grep?  And what is NSEC entry?
Why is the VHost admin.tamay-dogan.net there?

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack

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