Re: Good news! Very good!

2011-01-30 Thread pyh
listman, 

why this user has been always staying here for sending spams? 

Regards. 

Juan O writes: 



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Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-30 Thread pyh


From RFC 1123 


   One aspect of host name syntax is hereby changed: the
   restriction on the first character is relaxed to allow either a
   letter or a digit.  Host software MUST support this more liberal
   syntax. 





p...@mail.nsbeta.info writes: 

Joseph S D Yao writes:  



The labels must follow the rules for ARPANET host names.  They must
start with a letter, end with a letter or digit, and have as interior
characters only letters, digits, and hyphen.  There are also some
restrictions on the length.  Labels must be 63 characters or less.  



A label must start with a letter? oh I don't think so.
How about these domains which all have huge DNS traffic?  


163.com
126.com
51.com
56.com  

yes 163.com is a domain name but 163 also can be treated as a label for 
domain com., is it?  

Thanks.  


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Re: cache server with authoritative answer

2011-01-30 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 14:49 +0800, p...@mail.nsbeta.info wrote:
 The book Pro DNS and BIND says: 
 
 If the caching server obtains its data directly from an authoritative DNS, 
 then it too will respond as authoritative. Ohterwise, if the data is 
 supplied from its cache, the response is nonauthoritative. 
 
 So this means even for a cache only server it can answer with authoritative 
 response? I have been thinking the cache only server shouldn't do this. 
 
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If the caching-only server does not have an answer to a query in its
cache and recurses and gets an authoritative response, it, too, will set
the AA bit. If it gets another query for the name that is now cached,
the AA bit will not be set. Further, if any host responding to a query
already has the information in cache, the AA bit will not be set.

In simple terms, if the response to a query comes directly from
information at an authoritative source, the AA bit is set.

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Re: cache server with authoritative answer

2011-01-30 Thread Ben Croswell
That is no longer the case.  It doesn't respond authoritative on the first
query.

-Ben Croswell
On Jan 30, 2011 10:01 AM, Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 14:49 +0800, p...@mail.nsbeta.info wrote:
 The book Pro DNS and BIND says:

 If the caching server obtains its data directly from an authoritative
DNS,
 then it too will respond as authoritative. Ohterwise, if the data is
 supplied from its cache, the response is nonauthoritative.

 So this means even for a cache only server it can answer with
authoritative
 response? I have been thinking the cache only server shouldn't do this.

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 If the caching-only server does not have an answer to a query in its
 cache and recurses and gets an authoritative response, it, too, will set
 the AA bit. If it gets another query for the name that is now cached,
 the AA bit will not be set. Further, if any host responding to a query
 already has the information in cache, the AA bit will not be set.

 In simple terms, if the response to a query comes directly from
 information at an authoritative source, the AA bit is set.

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ddns and subdomains

2011-01-30 Thread Rick Dicaire
Hi folks,
I have ddns setup in a testing env, its working.
ddns-domainname is dhcp6.example.com. Clients get assigned
host.dhcp6.example.com

My question is, is it correct to create a separate subdomain zone
specifically for dhcp6.example.com so example.com zone itself doesn't
have to be updated, and if so, how would example.com zone have to be
configured to point to zone dhcp6.example.com?

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Re: cache server with authoritative answer

2011-01-30 Thread Chris Buxton
No, BIND 8 was broken this was also. This was fixed in BIND 9. As for
non-BIND name servers, anything goes.

Chris Buxton
BlueCat Networks


On 1/29/11, Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
 In article mailman.1566.1296284011.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
  p...@mail.nsbeta.info wrote:

 The book Pro DNS and BIND says:

 If the caching server obtains its data directly from an authoritative DNS,

 then it too will respond as authoritative. Ohterwise, if the data is
 supplied from its cache, the response is nonauthoritative.

 So this means even for a cache only server it can answer with
 authoritative
 response? I have been thinking the cache only server shouldn't do this.

 BIND 4 worked this way, but I think it was changed in BIND 8.

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Re: ddns and subdomains

2011-01-30 Thread Chris Buxton
There's nothing wrong with doing that. You would create delegation NS records 
in the example.com zone:

dhcp6   NS  some.name.server.
dhcp6   NS  other.name.server.

You can of course use the same set of name servers as are authoritative for 
example.com.

Chris Buxton
BlueCat Networks

On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Rick Dicaire wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I have ddns setup in a testing env, its working.
 ddns-domainname is dhcp6.example.com. Clients get assigned
 host.dhcp6.example.com
 
 My question is, is it correct to create a separate subdomain zone
 specifically for dhcp6.example.com so example.com zone itself doesn't
 have to be updated, and if so, how would example.com zone have to be
 configured to point to zone dhcp6.example.com?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-30 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1583.1296410997.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Chris Buxton chris.p.bux...@gmail.com wrote:

 Correct, the requirement to start with a letter was removed ages ago.
 Witness 3com.com, which may have been the first.

Yes, I'm pretty sure they were the impetus for the change, paving the 
way for 1-800-FLOWERS.COM years later.

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Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-30 Thread Vytautas Grigaliunas
What is the status of dotted hostnames - i.e. a period in the hostname 
portion of a domain name ?

At one point they were allowed, I believe ? What is the latest official RFC ?

Thanks...

Vyto



- Original Message -
From: Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu
Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: what's a valid domain name?
To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org


 In article mailman.1583.1296410997.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
   Chris Buxton chris.p.bux...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Correct, the requirement to start with a letter was removed ages ago.
   Witness 3com.com, which may have been the first.
  
  Yes, I'm pretty sure they were the impetus for the change, paving the 
 
  way for 1-800-FLOWERS.COM years later.
  
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Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-30 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1586.1296424051.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Vytautas Grigaliunas v...@fnal.gov wrote:

 What is the status of dotted hostnames - i.e. a period in the hostname 
 portion of a domain name ?
 
 At one point they were allowed, I believe ? What is the latest official RFC ?

I don't think they've every been allowed.  Why would you need to do 
this, instead of just using another level of subdomain?  To get a 
literal period into a label, you need to escape it, e.g. 
foo\.bar.company.com instead of foo.bar.company.com.  The latter is 
allowed, always has been, and is quite common.

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Re: what's a valid domain name?

2011-01-30 Thread Chris Buxton

On Jan 30, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Vytautas Grigaliunas wrote:

 What is the status of dotted hostnames - i.e. a period in the hostname 
 portion of a domain name ?
 
 At one point they were allowed, I believe ? What is the latest official RFC ?

Periods, or dots, act as dividers in a domain name, separating the various 
labels. You may have a 'dotted host' in any zone you control. For example, if 
you control example.com, then some.host.example.com is a valid record name 
within that zone, as long as host.example.com is not delegated as a subzone.

Chris Buxton
BlueCat Networks

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Re: cache server with authoritative answer

2011-01-30 Thread Mark Andrews

In message aanlktinnokvhtux8f9-dfgcl2lkzjfe+wmb_xxk0r...@mail.gmail.com, 
Chris Buxton writes:
 No, BIND 8 was broken this was also. This was fixed in BIND 9. As for
 non-BIND name servers, anything goes.
 
 Chris Buxton
 BlueCat Networks

It depended on the BIND 8 version.  Running everything through the cache
cleaned up the answers the stub resolvers saw.

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Re: Good news! Very good!

2011-01-30 Thread Alan Clegg
On 1/30/2011 4:41 AM, p...@mail.nsbeta.info wrote:
 listman,
 why this user has been always staying here for sending spams?
 Regards.

Things happen, spammers send junk, they are then unsubscribed from the
list as soon as we notice (and get back from the weekend).

All done, user zapped.

AlanC



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