Re: DNSSEC

2015-01-17 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Jeremy C. Reed  wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Jan 2015, John wrote:
>
> > is there a separate DNSSEC mailing list?
>
> You may use this bind-users list to discuss DNSSEC.
>
> There are other lists for DNSSEC managed outside of ISC and not specific
> to BIND, such as:
> Dnssec-deployment.org  (but I cannot access their mailman webpage
> currently)
>
> DNSSEC-DEPLOYMENT was recently moved to a new server in a different
organization. Things are supposed to be  progressing, but it seems to be
taking forever to get things like list management up. Last post I saw said
mid-January. That should mean about now.
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Re: How to alias a domain

2015-01-17 Thread Tony Finch

> On 16 Jan 2015, at 15:36, John  wrote:
> 
> DNAME will not work with DNSSEC.

Other people have already corrected this statement, but I want to point out 
there are situations where DNAME makes DNSSEC easier. We use it extensively in 
our reverse DNS to delegate 128.232.128.0/17 from one part of Cambridge to 
another. Instead of having 128 sub-zones from 128.232.128.in-addr.arpa to 
255.232.128.in-addr.arpa, we have 128 DNAME records[*] that redirect to 
subdomains of the slightly weirdly named in-addr.arpa.cam.ac.uk zone. This 
means we only need to manage one secure delegation (which does not cross 
organizational boundaries) instead of 128 secure delegations (which do).

[*] Actually, 127 DNAMEs and 256 CNAMEs. There is a mail server in one of the 
/24s and some recipient servers choke on DNAMEs when checking reverse DNS. Sigh.

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Re: DNSSEC

2015-01-17 Thread Tony Finch
Another list which often discusses DNSSEC (though its remit is wider than that) 
is https://lists.dns-oarc.net/mailman/listinfo/dns-operations

Not relevant to the original poster but maybe of interest to those in UK 
academia is https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=DNSSEC-DISCUSS

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Re: Disable DNSSEC Validation for selected Domains

2015-01-17 Thread /dev/rob0
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Evan Hunt [mailto:e...@isc.org] 
> 
> On Jan 13, 2015, at 2:35 AM, stefan.las...@t-systems.com wrote:
> > I'm just wondering, is an option like unbound's "domain-insecure"
> > intentionally not implemented in in BIND? Or did just nobody care 
> > enough to implement it yet?
> 
> I have resisted implementing it because it's too easy for an 
> operator to forget they knocked a hole in their DNSSEC protections, 
> and leave the hole in place long after it stopped being useful.
> 
> The negative trust anchor implementation that will be released in 
> 9.11 corrects for this with built-in term limits.  NTAs are added 
> via rndc, and they expire and are removed after a relatively short 
> lifespan, not exceeding a week.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:34:35AM +0100, stefan.las...@t-systems.com 
wrote:
> Hm... In our case a short lifespan won't  be enough.

I hate to point this out, but a simple workaround to make NTAs 
permanent is to have a cron job which runs your "rndc nta" command 
as often as needed.

May Evan and the gods of DNSSEC have mercy on my soul! :(

> Our customer uses a fictional Toplevel Domain and migrating the 
> whole Infrastructure to a new, proper Domain will take him months 
> if not years. They'll have to adjust every DNS Config of every 
> Server, every Webservice they have running internally, all 
> Documentations etc...  I wouldn't be surprised if they are not even 
> aware of the problem, yet.



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Re: DNSSEC

2015-01-17 Thread John

On 1/17/2015 12:21 PM, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2015, John wrote:


is there a separate DNSSEC mailing list?

You may use this bind-users list to discuss DNSSEC.

There are other lists for DNSSEC managed outside of ISC and not specific
to BIND, such as:
Dnssec-deployment.org  (but I cannot access their mailman webpage
currently)

Thanks
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Re: DNSSEC

2015-01-17 Thread John

On 1/17/2015 12:12 PM, /dev/rob0 wrote:

On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 11:43:33AM -0500, John wrote:

is there a separate DNSSEC mailing list?

If *you* are using BIND for signing or validation, anything
pertaining to DNSSEC is quite relevant here.

Google for "dnssec mailing list" brought up a few possibilities.

Thanks.

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Re: DNSSEC

2015-01-17 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015, John wrote:

> is there a separate DNSSEC mailing list?

You may use this bind-users list to discuss DNSSEC.

There are other lists for DNSSEC managed outside of ISC and not specific 
to BIND, such as:
Dnssec-deployment.org  (but I cannot access their mailman webpage 
currently)
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Re: DNSSEC

2015-01-17 Thread /dev/rob0
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 11:43:33AM -0500, John wrote:
> is there a separate DNSSEC mailing list?

If *you* are using BIND for signing or validation, anything 
pertaining to DNSSEC is quite relevant here.

Google for "dnssec mailing list" brought up a few possibilities.
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DNSSEC

2015-01-17 Thread John

is there a separate DNSSEC mailing list?
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Re: How to alias a domain

2015-01-17 Thread John

On 1/16/2015 10:26 AM, Phil Mayers wrote:

Turned out that my (old) router was glitching and losing stuff along the 
way. New router solved problem!


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