Re: Not receiving "Fixed/Ordered" query response

2019-01-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 25.01.19 13:39, Brent Douglas wrote:

We are testing a query:
FQDN: test.testdomain.net
Query Type: 

Client > DNS A > DNS B

Simplified DNS query flow:
1. Client queries test.testdomain.net -t 
2. Query goes to DNS A which then forwards the query to DNS B
3. DNS B responds with 2 ORDERED IPV6 addresses to DNS A
4. DNS A receives the 2 ORDERED IPV6 addresses from DNS B

Expected
5. DNS A responsds with 2 ORDERED IPV6 addresses to Client

What is happening
5. DNS A responds with 2 NON-ORDERED IPV6 addresses to Client


maybe you could try configure sortlist:

ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/9.9.11/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#the_sortlist_statement

BTW what is the point of you wanting to use fixed order?


Things we have tried:
Turn off cacheing on DNS A and DNS B

Things we noticed:
When the query goes from DNS A to DNS B, the transaction ID changes


it does not change, it is a different DNS transaction.


When DNS A responds with 2 IPV6 address to Client, the transaction ID
changes back to the original transaction ID.


It does not change, it is the original transaction.


What options/settings are we overlooking to make sure the Client receives
fixed ordered query responses?



What could be the reason for DNS A receiving the ordered query response
from DNS B, but does not send the ordered query response back to the client?



ftp://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/9.9.11/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#options

Note

In this release of BIND 9, the rrset-order statement does not support
"fixed" ordering by default.  Fixed ordering can be enabled at compile time
by specifying "--enable-fixed-rrset" on the "configure" command line.


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Not receiving "Fixed/Ordered" query response

2019-01-25 Thread Brent Douglas
Hello BIND ISC,

We are testing a query:
FQDN: test.testdomain.net
Query Type: 

Client > DNS A > DNS B

Simplified DNS query flow:
1. Client queries test.testdomain.net -t 
2. Query goes to DNS A which then forwards the query to DNS B
3. DNS B responds with 2 ORDERED IPV6 addresses to DNS A
4. DNS A receives the 2 ORDERED IPV6 addresses from DNS B

Expected
5. DNS A responsds with 2 ORDERED IPV6 addresses to Client

What is happening
5. DNS A responds with 2 NON-ORDERED IPV6 addresses to Client

Things we have tried:
Turn off cacheing on DNS A and DNS B

Things we noticed:
When the query goes from DNS A to DNS B, the transaction ID changes
When DNS A responds with 2 IPV6 address to Client, the transaction ID
changes back to the original transaction ID.

What options/settings are we overlooking to make sure the Client receives
fixed ordered query responses?
What could be the reason for DNS A receiving the ordered query response
from DNS B, but does not send the ordered query response back to the client?

Thanks
Brent D
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Re: DNS Flag Day may cause any problem in private DNS servers ?

2019-01-25 Thread Roberto Carna
Thanks a lot!

El jue., 24 ene. 2019 a las 16:24, Evan Hunt () escribió:

> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:53:49AM -0300, Roberto Carna wrote:
> > Dear, I've just worked around on my public BIND DNS's in order to solve
> the
> > problem of DNS Flag Day.
> >
> > But I have a pair of private DNS (BIND and Windows) that respond to
> > internal queries and also forward non authoritative queries to my public
> > DNS'smay my private DNS's become unstables after DNS Flag Day if I
> > don't any workaround on them ?
>
> DNS flag day is when vendors of recursive name servers will stop releasing
> new software that coddles ancient or broken authoritative servers and
> firewalls. Instead of trying over and over in different ways to coax some
> broken remote system to send back an answer, new resolver software will
> just declare the remote server to be broken, and give up.
>
> Nothing will stop working suddenly on February 1. However, the next time
> you upgrade your recursive name server to the latest version, you *might*
> have problems then.  My guess is that you won't, but I can't guarantee it.
>
> If you do have some legacy server running internally that can't be fixed to
> support EDNS properly, you can still configure your resolvers not to use
> EDNS when talking to that specific server. That option will still be
> available after flag day.
>
> An easy way to check would be to install the latest BIND development
> release (version 9.13.5) and see if it works. It already has all the flag
> day changes in it.
>
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>
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Re: RNDC Stats

2019-01-25 Thread Tony Finch
N. Max Pierson  wrote:
>
> Under Incoming Requests it has QUERY's among some other stats. Is this
> the total queries across all zones? If it is, it doesn't seem to add up
> to what the total of each zone added together in the per zone stats.

Hmm, good question. I suspected it might be something to do with REFUSED
queries for zones that you are not authoritative for, but that doesn't add
up for me either, because my server sent a lot more refused responses than
the difference between its overall query count and the zone query
counts...

awk '
/queries received/ {
if (n < 2) { server += $1 }
else { zones += $1 }
n += 1;
}
/REFUSED/ { refused = $1 }
END {
printf "server %d\n", server;
printf "zones %d\n", zones;
printf "difference %d\n", server - zones;
printf "refused %d\n", refused;
}
' named.stats

server 141242445
zones 141221559
difference 20886
refused 364380

Tony.
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