Re: Best DNSSEC documentation for current version?

2021-06-21 Thread Brett Delmage

On Mon, 21 Jun 2021, John W. Blue via bind-users wrote:


Have you seen the webinar videos on ISC's youtube channel?

https://www.youtube.com/user/ISCdotorg/search?query=DNSSEC


No! I would not have thought to look there for this -- although I learn 
all kinds of other things on YT. Many thanks for pointing this out to us 
all. I will definitely look at this. It looks extensive!


Brett
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Re: Best DNSSEC documentation for current version?

2021-06-21 Thread John W. Blue via bind-users
Hello Brett,

Have you seen the webinar videos on ISC's youtube channel?

https://www.youtube.com/user/ISCdotorg/search?query=DNSSEC

I would encourage you to attend them as they are presented.  One even had a 
VM's for the attendees to practice the information presented and ask questions.

John

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Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:58 PM
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Subject: Best DNSSEC documentation for current version?

I am looking to read the best documentation on DNSSEC
configuration for the current versions on BIND.

Is this comprehensive and up to date?
https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/latest/dnssec-guide.html

This doc does not refer to any version - Am I missing that? It seems that
this is an important detail to know when attempting to apply such a
document.

Is there anything else I have missed that isn't misleading, especially
with regard to key management, on the ISC site or elsewhere? Right now I
am feeling there are gaps in my knowledge and/or comprehension. I don ;t
want to get further confused.

Thanks for your tips!

Brett



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Re: Reverse Lookup / PTR record

2021-06-21 Thread techlists




On 2021-06-21 12:00, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On 21.06.21 09:41, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:
I am configuring a home office PHP webserver on my cable company's 
business connection that allows for servers.


My cable company provides the reverse lookup / PTR record.  Given 
that, I'm thinking I need to provide only the zone file, no reverse 
lookup.


if your ISP provides reverse lookup, you don't need reverse zone file 
at

all.


Any thoughts are much appreciated.


what is your question?


You answered it  it was do I need a reverse if my ISP is providing 
one.  Thanks!!





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Re: Managing localhost

2021-06-21 Thread techlists



Thank you Kevin and Tony!!

On 2021-06-21 10:07, Kevin Darcy via bind-users wrote:

[ Classification Level: GENERAL BUSINESS ]

That chapter doesn't show any PTR records, for the reverse zones of
any *public* address range, pointing back to a "localhost" name. It
only shows a PTR record in the reverse zone for the 127.0.0/24 private
range, which is what enables a reverse lookup for 127.0.0.1. Your ISP
isn't (or shouldn't be) hosting reverse zones for any range under the
127/8 private block, on your behalf. That's your responsibility; hence
the term "private".

And, as Tony mentioned, these days it's highly questionable whether
"localhost" entries in *any* zone, forward or reverse, serve any
useful purpose, and may actually cause harm.


 - Kevin

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:48 PM  wrote:


Hi,

This book  :


https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/dns-and-bind/0596100574/ch04.html


says I should manage the localhost within my zone (SOA) and reverse
lookup / PTR.

I do not manage my revers lookup / PTR the IP owner does that.

Any thoughts on managing the localhost within the zone file and PTR?

Thanks!!
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Re: Best DNSSEC documentation for current version?

2021-06-21 Thread Brett Delmage

On Mon, 21 Jun 2021, Ondřej Surý wrote:

you haven’t said the version, but readthedocs.io has a version picker, 
so you can go with the version you are interested in (v9.16 and up) with 
“latest” referring to the latest stable branch (v9.16.xx).


Thanks for letting me know about this. I seem to have missed that because 
I accessed the DNSSEC Guide directly from a duckduckgo search and so did 
not realize this docs listing site worked this way. (i thought it was just 
another ISC domain; I never thought to look at the root.)


Brett


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Re: Best DNSSEC documentation for current version?

2021-06-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
Brett,

you haven’t said the version, but readthedocs.io has a version picker, so you 
can go with the version you are interested in (v9.16 and up) with “latest” 
referring to the latest stable branch (v9.16.xx).

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> On 21. 6. 2021, at 21:58, Brett Delmage  wrote:
> 
> I am looking to read the best documentation on DNSSEC configuration for the 
> current versions on BIND.
> 
> Is this comprehensive and up to date?
> https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/latest/dnssec-guide.html
> 
> This doc does not refer to any version - Am I missing that? It seems that 
> this is an important detail to know when attempting to apply such a document.
> 
> Is there anything else I have missed that isn't misleading, especially with 
> regard to key management, on the ISC site or elsewhere? Right now I am 
> feeling there are gaps in my knowledge and/or comprehension. I don ;t want to 
> get further confused.
> 
> Thanks for your tips!
> 
> Brett
> 
> 
> 
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Best DNSSEC documentation for current version?

2021-06-21 Thread Brett Delmage
I am looking to read the best documentation on DNSSEC 
configuration for the current versions on BIND.


Is this comprehensive and up to date?
https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/latest/dnssec-guide.html

This doc does not refer to any version - Am I missing that? It seems that 
this is an important detail to know when attempting to apply such a 
document.


Is there anything else I have missed that isn't misleading, especially 
with regard to key management, on the ISC site or elsewhere? Right now I 
am feeling there are gaps in my knowledge and/or comprehension. I don ;t 
want to get further confused.


Thanks for your tips!

Brett



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Re: Reverse Lookup / PTR record

2021-06-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 21.06.21 09:41, techli...@phpcoderusa.com wrote:
I am configuring a home office PHP webserver on my cable company's 
business connection that allows for servers.


My cable company provides the reverse lookup / PTR record.  Given 
that, I'm thinking I need to provide only the zone file, no reverse 
lookup.


if your ISP provides reverse lookup, you don't need reverse zone file at
all.


Any thoughts are much appreciated.


what is your question?

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Re: Managing localhost

2021-06-21 Thread Kevin Darcy via bind-users
[ Classification Level: GENERAL BUSINESS ]


That chapter doesn't show any PTR records, for the reverse zones of any
*public* address range, pointing back to a "localhost" name. It only shows
a PTR record in the reverse zone for the 127.0.0/24 private range, which is
what enables a reverse lookup for 127.0.0.1. Your ISP isn't (or shouldn't
be) hosting reverse zones for any range under the 127/8 private block, on
your behalf. That's your responsibility; hence the term "private".

And, as Tony mentioned, these days it's highly questionable whether
"localhost" entries in *any* zone, forward or reverse, serve any useful
purpose, and may actually cause harm.


- Kevin

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:48 PM  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This book  :
> https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/dns-and-bind/0596100574/ch04.html
> says I should manage the localhost within my zone (SOA) and reverse
> lookup / PTR.
>
> I do not manage my revers lookup / PTR the IP owner does that.
>
> Any thoughts on managing the localhost within the zone file and PTR?
>
> Thanks!!
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Re: Managing localhost

2021-06-21 Thread Tony Finch
techli...@phpcoderusa.com  wrote:
>
> This book  :
> https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/dns-and-bind/0596100574/ch04.html  says I
> should manage the localhost within my zone (SOA) and reverse lookup / PTR.

That advice is out of date: nowadays you should not put any localhost
entries in the DNS, because it can cause problems for web browser
security. Modern software should suppress queries for localhost so they
never reach the DNS.

https://www.dns.cam.ac.uk/news/2017-09-01-localhost.html

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6761#section-6.3

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Managing localhost

2021-06-21 Thread techlists

Hi,

This book  :  
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/dns-and-bind/0596100574/ch04.html  
says I should manage the localhost within my zone (SOA) and reverse 
lookup / PTR.


I do not manage my revers lookup / PTR the IP owner does that.

Any thoughts on managing the localhost within the zone file and PTR?

Thanks!!
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Reverse Lookup / PTR record

2021-06-21 Thread techlists

Hi,

I am configuring a home office PHP webserver on my cable company's 
business connection that allows for servers.


My cable company provides the reverse lookup / PTR record.  Given that, 
I'm thinking I need to provide only the zone file, no reverse lookup.


Any thoughts are much appreciated.

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Re: Origin of reverse lookup

2021-06-21 Thread techlists


Reverse lookup problem resolved.  Apparently my ISP did not understand I 
wanted to change the pointer record.  Maybe I did no articulate myself 
very well!!



On 2021-06-19 01:17, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 19.06.21 um 01:17 schrieb techli...@phpcoderusa.com:
I had my ISP configure a reverse lookup years ago.  They say they no 
longer offer that service and there is no reverse lookup for my IP.


don't matter unless you try to send mails from your machine

I keep running into this old reverse lookup and do not know where it 
is coming from.


from the ISP owing the network range

When I run https://intodns.com/ it shows this reverse lookup and not 
the one I just configured on my local box.


whatever you configure on your box is irrelevant to the world unless
the owner of the network range delegates the reverse zone to your
server which is unlikely for most cases and impossible for a single IP

Any thoughts on how I might resolve this or find who is hosting this 
reverse lookup?


"whois ip"
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Re: do I need to configure a Caching Server

2021-06-21 Thread techlists


I am setting up a SOHO PHP web server on my business cable account that 
allows for running servers.  This is a product for small home bound 
businesses.


I have BIND working. The website I am hosting  :   
http://www.keiththewebguy.com/



On 2021-06-19 01:14, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 18.06.21 um 20:28 schrieb techli...@phpcoderusa.com:
I am building a home PHP hosting server for learning.  I have a 
commercial connection to the Internet so no blocked ports and my ISP 
allows servers.


unless you are hosting a authoritative zone aka domain on your
nameserver it don't matter what your ISP allows

if you are not hosting any official zone you shouldn't have the port
open to the world because nobody but bots and attackers will ask your
server anyways


I believe I only need a Primary Master Server.  Is this the case?


what is your usecase to begin with?

if it's just internal hostnames for your LAN maybe dnsmasq is the
better solution because it can use simple hostfiles like /etc/hosts
and forwards everything else to your ISP nameserver


My question is, do I need to configure a Caching Server?


there is nothing to configure, if you ask your named for something
it's not authoritative it either forwards or doing recursion (depends
on the configuration) and cache the result based on the TTL


In /etc/bind/named.conf.options:


     [...]

     forwarders {
  1.2.3.4;
  5.6.7.8;
     };

     [...]

Do I need to set the forwarders?


no

let named do it's out-of-the-box job which is recursion - i can't
think of any usecase where i do the work setup a nameserver and then
forward everything to a crappy ISP server

after stop using forwarding all random dns problems where gone and
never came back

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