Re: dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com aaaa lookup fail

2024-04-29 Thread Walter H. via bind-users

On 29.04.2024 22:19, Lee wrote:

On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 2:18 AM Walter H. via bind-users
 wrote:

something that I replied to and got this in response:

Error Icon
  Message blocked
Your message to Walter.H@[..snip..] has been blocked. See technical
details below for more information.

The response from the remote server was:
554 5.7.1 : Client host rejected: Use IPv4



For explanation: this is MY mail server, which blocks IPv6 connections from

Outlook.com
Gmail.com
...

as these are the biggest SPAM senders




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Re: dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com aaaa lookup fail

2024-04-29 Thread Lee
On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 5:13 PM Mark Andrews wrote:
>
> I prefer to only name and shame when I’m 100% sure of the target.

I was only trying to understand why I was getting a SERVFAIL, there
was no intention to name & shame.

Regards,
Lee

"name & shame" was not my intent.
>
> --
> Mark Andrews
>
> > On 30 Apr 2024, at 06:56, Lee  wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:56 PM Mark Andrews wrote:
> >>
> >> It isn’t DNSSEC. It’s a badly configured DNS server that is claiming that 
> >> it serves .com rather than dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com which is 
> >> actually delegated to it.
> >>
> >> % dig dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com  +trace +all
> >> ;; BADCOOKIE, retrying.
> >>
> >> ; <<>> DiG 9.19.24-dev <<>> dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com  
> >> +trace +all
> >> ;; global options: +cmd
> >> ;; Got answer:
> >> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 37498
> >> ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 14, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 27
> >  <.. snip lots ..>
> >
> >> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> >> com. 60 IN SOA this.name.is.invalid. hostmaster.this.name.is.invalid. 
> >> 2023030710 10800 3600 604800 60
> >
> > I did a search for "this.name.is.invalid" and the only results I got
> > were for F5 support pages - eg.
> >  The fix in BIG-IP DNS 14.1.0 introduces a new setting,
> > wideip-zone-nameserver, which defaults the WideIP zone nameserver to
> > this.name.is.invalid.
> >
> > Wouldn't a badly configured F5 server be a better explanation?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Lee
>
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Re: dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com aaaa lookup fail

2024-04-29 Thread Mark Andrews
I prefer to only name and shame when I’m 100% sure of the target. 

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> On 30 Apr 2024, at 06:56, Lee  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:56 PM Mark Andrews wrote:
>> 
>> It isn’t DNSSEC. It’s a badly configured DNS server that is claiming that it 
>> serves .com rather than dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com which is 
>> actually delegated to it.
>> 
>> % dig dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com  +trace +all
>> ;; BADCOOKIE, retrying.
>> 
>> ; <<>> DiG 9.19.24-dev <<>> dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com  
>> +trace +all
>> ;; global options: +cmd
>> ;; Got answer:
>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 37498
>> ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 14, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 27
>  <.. snip lots ..>
> 
>> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>> com. 60 IN SOA this.name.is.invalid. hostmaster.this.name.is.invalid. 
>> 2023030710 10800 3600 604800 60
> 
> I did a search for "this.name.is.invalid" and the only results I got
> were for F5 support pages - eg.
>  The fix in BIG-IP DNS 14.1.0 introduces a new setting,
> wideip-zone-nameserver, which defaults the WideIP zone nameserver to
> this.name.is.invalid.
> 
> Wouldn't a badly configured F5 server be a better explanation?
> 
> Thanks
> Lee

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Re: dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com aaaa lookup fail

2024-04-29 Thread Lee
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 7:56 PM Mark Andrews wrote:
>
> It isn’t DNSSEC. It’s a badly configured DNS server that is claiming that it 
> serves .com rather than dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com which is 
> actually delegated to it.
>
> % dig dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com  +trace +all
> ;; BADCOOKIE, retrying.
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.19.24-dev <<>> dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com  +trace 
> +all
> ;; global options: +cmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 37498
> ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 14, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 27
  <.. snip lots ..>

> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> com. 60 IN SOA this.name.is.invalid. hostmaster.this.name.is.invalid. 
> 2023030710 10800 3600 604800 60

I did a search for "this.name.is.invalid" and the only results I got
were for F5 support pages - eg.
  The fix in BIG-IP DNS 14.1.0 introduces a new setting,
wideip-zone-nameserver, which defaults the WideIP zone nameserver to
this.name.is.invalid.

Wouldn't a badly configured F5 server be a better explanation?

Thanks
Lee
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Re: dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com aaaa lookup fail

2024-04-29 Thread Mark Andrews
And the SMTP server doesn’t need to listen on IPv6 if it isn’t going to accept 
messages over that transport. Talk about a way to DoS yourself. 

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> On 30 Apr 2024, at 06:19, Lee  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 2:18 AM Walter H. via bind-users
>  wrote:
> 
> something that I replied to and got this in response:
> 
> Error Icon
> Message blocked
> Your message to Walter.H@[..snip..] has been blocked. See technical
> details below for more information.
> 
> The response from the remote server was:
> 554 5.7.1 : Client host rejected: Use IPv4
> 
> 
> 
> Which is strangely appropriate when trying to troubleshoot an issue
> that applies only to IPv6.
> But I've forgotten how to turn off IPv6 :(
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Re: dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com aaaa lookup fail

2024-04-29 Thread Lee
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 2:18 AM Walter H. via bind-users
 wrote:

something that I replied to and got this in response:

Error Icon
 Message blocked
Your message to Walter.H@[..snip..] has been blocked. See technical
details below for more information.

The response from the remote server was:
554 5.7.1 : Client host rejected: Use IPv4



Which is strangely appropriate when trying to troubleshoot an issue
that applies only to IPv6.
But I've forgotten how to turn off IPv6 :(
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Re: dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com aaaa lookup fail

2024-04-29 Thread Lee
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 2:18 AM Walter H. wrote:
>
> On 27.04.2024 16:54, Lee wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 9:50 AM Walter H. via bind-users
> >  wrote:
> >> # host dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com
> >> dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com is an alias for
> >> dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com.
> >> dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com has address 209.131.158.42
> >>
> > Right, the IPv4 address lookup works.  Now try looking up the IPv6 address.
>
> if there was one it would be presented there

 Try this:

$ dig www.github.com 

; <<>> DiG 9.16.48-Debian <<>> www.github.com 
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 45964
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1432
; COOKIE: 6e0635047fb42cbf0100662ff80b95c1aaed2c48a54b (good)
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.github.com.IN  

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.github.com. 3600IN  CNAME   github.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
github.com. 3600IN  SOA dns1.p08.nsone.net.
hostmaster.nsone.net. 1656468023 43200 7200 1209600 3600


The query status is NOERROR.  Compare that to

$ dig dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com 

; <<>> DiG 9.16.48-Debian <<>> dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com 
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 18045
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1432
; COOKIE: 8dca27caaec9a4740100662ff8ad9cc9bff9bf779d54 (good)
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;dnssec-analyzer-gslb.verisignlabs.com. IN 

where the query status is SERVFAIL.

OK.. noerr vs. servfail doesn't make all that much difference to me,
but I *would* like to understand why looking ip the IPv6 address for
that name gives me an error.
I'm still operating under the (increasingly looking like it's
delusional) assumption that I should be able to understand this stuff.

> this can't be a matter of DNSSEC, as there are only signed whole zones
> and not just single DNS-records ...

I dunno.  I've seen some weird stuff with servers on AWS not resolving
IPv6 addresses but having a CNAME pointing outside the zone.
Which I don't understand, but at least it doesn't return an error so I
just chalked it up to them deciding that supporting IPv6 was too much
of a pain.

Regards,
Lee
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