RE: Make dig and nslookup DNSSEC aware?

2024-05-22 Thread Friesen, Don CITZ:EX via bind-users

  Doesn't dig already offer DoT using +tls and DoH using +https ?

Don Friesen

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> On 22. 5. 2024, at 17:02, Havard Eidnes via bind-users 
>  wrote:
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> And, no, I'm not aware of any such plans to incorporate a DNSSEC
> validator in any of those tools.  Not sure it makes technical sense,
> as it's a fairly large task.  That's what a validating recursive
> resolver does; watch for the 'ad' flag from one such instead?

delv does that:

$ delv http://www.isc.org/
; fully validated
http://www.isc.org/. 300 IN CNAME isc.map.fastlydns.net.
http://www.isc.org/. 300 IN RRSIG CNAME 13 3 300 20240605025251 20240522021818 
27566 isc.org. SG32Y38XgzScNzN4mw0ow6mHx2Su5t8sX5jvFzbsct9obDbfnidNaOXq 
CuJqBDwVfg/M0 9CXJ9f2MYdI1SzYPQ== ; unsigned answer isc.map.fastlydns.net. 60 
IN A 151.101.2.217 isc.map.fastlydns.net. 60 IN A 151.101.66.217 
isc.map.fastlydns.net. 60 IN A 151.101.130.217 isc.map.fastlydns.net. 60 IN A 
151.101.194.217

But then only dig has support for DoT and DoH. Nobody has asked for the 
combination yet
- those are debugging tools and not something you should incorporate "as 
library" into other products after all.

We should probably add DoT, DoH and in future DoQ to both of the tools, not 
just dig.

And forget that nslookup ever existed, just used dig (or delv).

Ondřej
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RE: Answers from subzone even when superzone has a delegation elsewhere

2024-02-13 Thread Friesen, Don CITZ:EX via bind-users
Andy,
   The existence of 8.f.0.f.1.f.1.0.8.a.b.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa as an 
authoritative zone on the server has higher relevance than the delegation 
inside another zone.  The answer comes from the authoritative zone, no need to 
follow the delegation.

Don Friesen

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Hi Don,

Yes.

If you want actual names to look at, these zones are both present on the same 
servers:

1.f.1.0.8.a.b.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa 
8.f.0.f.1.f.1.0.8.a.b.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa

However, the presence of 8.f.0.f.1.f.1.0.8.a.b.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa is a mistake 
and in the mean time someone has changed the delegation inside 
1.f.1.0.8.a.b.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa to be:

8.f.0.f NS  ns-auto.bitfolk.com.

A query for, say:

2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.8.f.0.f.1.f.1.0.8.a.b.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa. IN PTR

is answered NXDOMAIN because it does not exist inside the 
8.f.0.f.1.f.1.0.8.a.b.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa zone file, instead of following that 
delegation to ns-auto.bitfolk.com.

Thanks,
Andy

On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 02:31:32PM +, Friesen, Don CITZ:EX via bind-users 
wrote:
> Andy,  You do also have the A record glue for elsewhere.example.com in the 
> example.com zone, right?  Just checking.
>
> Don Friesen
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RE: Answers from subzone even when superzone has a delegation elsewhere

2024-02-13 Thread Friesen, Don CITZ:EX via bind-users
Andy,  You do also have the A record glue for elsewhere.example.com in the 
example.com zone, right?  Just checking.

Don Friesen

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Hi,

I'm running:

9.16.44-Debian (Extended Support Version) 

If I have zones example.com and sub.example.com both loaded, but example.com 
contains a record:

sub.example.com. NS elsewhere.example.com.

(i.e. the subzone is delegated to some other server)

is it normal and expected that a query for foo.sub.example.com should be 
answered NXDOMAIN from the auth servers for example.com because the zone 
sub.example.com is also loaded there (and has no "foo" RR), rather than the 
delegation to elsewhere.example.com be followed?

If that is expected, is there configuration that can alter that behaviour, or 
is that RFC required behaviour that should not be altered?

Thanks,
Andy
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