Re: One A record fails on one server on Sunday evening

2009-11-03 Thread Josh Luthman
How do I export the cache dump?

rndc dumpdb on the first execute took a few seconds, but after updatedb 
locate named_dump.db (as it suggested it would store it there) returns
nothing.  The man page for rndc doesn't say anything about these commands
either.

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When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu wrote:

 In article mailman.872.1257181286.14796.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
  Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  It has happened the last 4 or 5 Sunday nights.
 
  Currently there are no logs - what categories would you suggest I start
  logging?
 
  The server comes back with simply no response.  It just times out.  It
  resolves every other record I could think of to ask it.  Also, it may or
 may
  not be relevant but if I ssh in I can ping (and hence resolve) the
  mail.alexandertelecominc.com.

 When it's failing, make a cache dump.  Check the cache for the NS
 records of the domain, and the A records for the nameservers.

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One A record fails on one server on Sunday evening

2009-11-02 Thread Josh Luthman
I have two servers that users query that as as cache servers.

The server having the problem is CentOS 4.4 running bind 9.2.4

The second server configured similarly is CentOS 3.9 also running bind
9.2.4.

There is one A record on Godaddy's DNS servers that fails look ups on the
4.4 server start around 7PM EST Sunday.  I have been able to solve this each
Monday morning by issuing the commands (rndc reload  /etc/init.d/named
restart).

I have not had to do this on the second 3.9 server.

I am looking for any suggestions or ideas to help fix this issue.  Thanks in
advance!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
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Re: One A record fails on one server on Sunday evening

2009-11-02 Thread Josh Luthman
The issue is that the A record no longer gets resolved.

The command dig mail.alexandertelecominc.com @firstserver times out.  Not
sure what else I can provide that would help.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Jeremy C. Reed jr...@isc.org wrote:

  I am looking for any suggestions or ideas to help fix this issue.  Thanks
 in
  advance!

 To get good help, you may want to tell us what the issue is. Provide
 real names and show your real tests. Also the version of BIND you are
 using is out of date and is no longer supported.
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Re: One A record fails on one server on Sunday evening

2009-11-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Let me say it this way...

Starting ~7PM EST Sunday evening the command

dig mail.alexandertelecominc.com @74.218.88.168 #fails
dig mail.alexandertelecominc.com @4.2.2.2 #works

until I issue

rndc reload  /etc/init.d/named restart #on the 74.218.88.168 server

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Bill Larson wlla...@swcp.com wrote:

 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com said:

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  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
  The issue is that the A record no longer gets resolved.
 
  The command dig mail.alexandertelecominc.com @firstserver times out.
  Not
  sure what else I can provide that would help.

 Well, when you are querying this firstserver (whatever that is - giving
 us
 a fully qualified domain name would be helpful), it times out.  The DNS
 server on this firstserver isn't answering the query.

 Not sure what else I can provide that would help.  You don't give us much
 to work with.

 Bill Larson

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Jeremy C. Reed jr...@isc.org wrote:
 
I am looking for any suggestions or ideas to help fix this issue.
 Thanks
   in
advance!
  
   To get good help, you may want to tell us what the issue is. Provide
   real names and show your real tests. Also the version of BIND you are
   using is out of date and is no longer supported.
 
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  Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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Re: One A record fails on one server on Sunday evening

2009-11-02 Thread Josh Luthman
It has happened the last 4 or 5 Sunday nights.

Currently there are no logs - what categories would you suggest I start
logging?

The server comes back with simply no response.  It just times out.  It
resolves every other record I could think of to ask it.  Also, it may or may
not be relevant but if I ssh in I can ping (and hence resolve) the
mail.alexandertelecominc.com.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Bill Larson wlla...@swcp.com wrote:

 Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com said:

  Let me say it this way...
 
  Starting ~7PM EST Sunday evening the command
 
  dig mail.alexandertelecominc.com @74.218.88.168 #fails
  dig mail.alexandertelecominc.com @4.2.2.2 #works
 
  until I issue
 
  rndc reload  /etc/init.d/named restart #on the 74.218.88.168 server

 Ok, we're getting somewhere.  Do the logs on your 74.218.88.168 server tell
 you anything?  Is there anything unusual logged prior to ~7PM EST Sunday?

 Again, without knowing more there is no way that we can identify exactly
 what occurred to cause the query to fail.  Also, even with all the
 information that is available, we may still not be able to identify the
 problem.

 Then again, is this a one time situation or does it occur regularly?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

 I don't know exactly why, but this statement struck me.  Sherlock Holmes
 should never have been susceptable to this logical falicy.

 The opposite of the impossible is the possible, but no matter how
 improbable this possible may be, this is not the same as truth.

 A counter example, something occurs and there are three posited causes.
  One
 cause is impossible and can be eliminated.  This leaves the other two
 possibilities, no matter how improbable.  This does NOT make both, or
 either, of these possibilities the truth.

  On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Bill Larson wlla...@swcp.com wrote:
 
   Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com said:
  
--000e0cd32f54da30b8047764ddcc
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
   
The issue is that the A record no longer gets resolved.
   
The command dig mail.alexandertelecominc.com @firstserver times out.
Not
sure what else I can provide that would help.
  
   Well, when you are querying this firstserver (whatever that is -
 giving
   us
   a fully qualified domain name would be helpful), it times out.  The DNS
   server on this firstserver isn't answering the query.
  
   Not sure what else I can provide that would help.  You don't give us
 much
   to work with.
  
   Bill Larson
  
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
   
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
   
   
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Jeremy C. Reed jr...@isc.org
 wrote:
   
  I am looking for any suggestions or ideas to help fix this issue.
   Thanks
 in
  advance!

 To get good help, you may want to tell us what the issue is.
 Provide
 real names and show your real tests. Also the version of BIND you
 are
 using is out of date and is no longer supported.
   
--000e0cd32f54da30b8047764ddcc
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
   
The issue is that the A record no longer gets resolved.brbrThe
   command
   =
dig a
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c.com/a @firstserver times out.=A0 Not sure what else I can
 provide
   that
   =
would help.br
   
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 2343br1100
   Wa=
yne StbrSuite 1337brTroy, OH 45373brbrquot;When you have
   eliminate=
d the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the
   truth=
.quot;br
   
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doylebr
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   Jeremy
   =
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   fi=
x this issue.=A0 Thanks inbr
gt; advance!br
br
/divTo get good help, you may want to tell us what the issue is.
   Provide=
br
real names and show your real tests. Also the version of BIND you
 arebr
using is out of date