Re: Dig 9.7 DNSSEC output

2010-05-09 Thread R Dicaire
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Peter Janssen peter.jans...@eurid.euwrote:

 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 ns.nic.se.  3600IN  A   212.247.7.228
 ns.nic.se.  3600IN  2a00:801:f0:53::53
 ns2.nic.se. 3600IN  A   194.17.45.54
 ns3.nic.se. 60  IN  A   212.247.3.83
 ns.nic.se.  3600IN  RRSIG   A 5 3 3600 20100517132001
 20100507132001 20273 nic.se.
 TLTnkqESLN7DdoC2urF14ox1JolvUSCySe4oqYfof4ER/ZNNl8DO1P46
 mSKpNxf3kNUJWoMkjBjtUgZgiMcVSuD7V6qTHLA2A8tEhnM4pXCeo/yj
 kirCEzo3YQzcW56BZVXgVe41K3QT4GpIm0rmTyEy+8ZCe7oeMKFem5PL Ibw=
 ns.nic.se.  3600IN  RRSIG    5 3 3600
 20100517132001
 20100507132001 20273 nic.se.
 HcUbk9y1aR9zeHOwNsqTtPL97P+ftyoQVAyTZbuPpr6GEzIsKL8MyQoP
 h4qyAkOHFWC2lgZ4xroHemR9OXa3JCLn1UtYE0UbgszUJWSJcQW+2ho3
 GIsfEzVfJwMEomhvPuEyVfNxdaP87ITFTfNJcUvEApHCnYHO0RNgeEL0 l/Y=
 ns2.nic.se. 3600IN  RRSIG   A 5 3 3600 20100517132001
 20100507132001 20273 nic.se.
 fGqc3OIwmaYPFJoRrULGaUIRxGV+i6FJkcSZ4HRJL0x+siwVcTrIb+5t
 ER9woGl9sabyXH9H4aHc90ARABer0RodbnQSZDT7SPamDb97UP1ESBs2
 Av9N43nr54M/ctLk8EZc1q7GblBK7inf7iY/AQsHTsFv1BWJOAYw+n4N YaM=
 ns3.nic.se. 60  IN  RRSIG   A 5 3 60 20100517132001
 20100507132001 20273 nic.se.
 vTil1+1r3dOyV3zHdd53p2O5qnBHfexdwJVjx2E+G5z5FTqa50YRQYfH
 JwVHHertJcMo2wek/y2g0GBQJdkFTKwpJZv3IWWp9TYqJ3lCIYzoWxWV
 pzc7i+m2Ha3HupVY0e/tOJPKsiJu+LnyH3LJ66WV/xCRDjhZ8N6RONl5 xQU=


I count 8 RRs. 3 A, 1 , 4 RRSIG.

Where are you seeing 9?

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Re: Dig 9.7 DNSSEC output

2010-05-09 Thread R Dicaire
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Peter Janssen peter.jans...@eurid.euwrote:

 as per the header of Dig output…
 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 9


Curious, I too get 9 but only 8 RRs are shown:

;  DiG 9.7.0-P1  +dnssec @rdb.ardynet.com ardynet.com ns
; (2 servers found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 19752
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 9
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ardynet.com. IN NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
ardynet.com. 10800 IN NS rdb.ardynet.com.
ardynet.com. 10800 IN NS dev.ardynet.com.
ardynet.com. 10800 IN RRSIG NS 5 2 10800 2010051512 2010050912 60794
ardynet.com. uEABRGErPScK6zTn8V2aZwWXdC7sc1wh7eFsyGHkwcfGrugsLdFPVSfZ
vetCUVXoOj1OnUNPeO5/cMB8Os0NGg==

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dev.ardynet.com. 10800 IN A 74.93.245.186
dev.ardynet.com. 10800 IN  2001:470:8:12:def::1000
rdb.ardynet.com. 10800 IN A 74.93.245.185
rdb.ardynet.com. 10800 IN  2001:470:e006::1000
dev.ardynet.com. 10800 IN RRSIG A 5 3 10800 2010051512 2010050912
60794 ardynet.com. OdH4FDSkj8daSKw0ooNX2ZJpjQVtTXI0ev5pblGM0+M/IYccu1fW9Tkk
h9N0PPI7/4C2fpitdBbFGCq14hxocg==
dev.ardynet.com. 10800 IN RRSIG  5 3 10800 2010051512 2010050912
60794 ardynet.com. ou2/+po9rUY1l8TYy4u23z0GWBuasEib5U1E1f//MJCQ1XRqOKX9h8y2
Gk6R3+lxXlDdoLtww8E2GpVpEK+U1A==
rdb.ardynet.com. 10800 IN RRSIG A 5 3 10800 2010051512 2010050912
60794 ardynet.com. jUJ/1Miq+Y3RwFW8AyfCs6vJ+alynM/gzVIBFdn3SoIFzg3AiV4R8zHl
sOX5xzP2eVEuQwtq6cDWhFqma3cr/A==
rdb.ardynet.com. 10800 IN RRSIG  5 3 10800 2010051512 2010050912
60794 ardynet.com. M9NcSwlhg50H5zRXeB8iKZLFdm1dGmwEg/PIHYgTn9gyoXOcLUWRjK5Q
RnPlqRyHoVdkkHyCFumEkMZVyneu1g==


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Re: problem with bind stop

2009-07-01 Thread R Dicaire
2009/7/1 Joan Marc Riera marc.ri...@barcelonamedia.org:
 we have some troubles with restart and stop.

 bind does not stop and I think it's because of a wrong kill argument on the
 stop) case.

This isn't a bind problem per se, have you talked to the debian
maintainer, or filed a bug report with debian?

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control channel logging

2009-06-21 Thread R Dicaire
Hi folks, bind 9.6.1...I'm looking in the ARM but I dont see a logging
category specific to control channel communications.
In syslog I have (generated by an mrtg script):

named[7837]: received control channel command 'stats'

What category does this fall under?

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bind 9.6.1 stats dump

2009-06-18 Thread R Dicaire
Hi folks, while looking at a stats dump from bind 9.6.1 I see:
++ Per Zone Query Statistics ++
but there are no stats showing for this, how is this enabled (if at all)?

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nsec and nsec3 records

2009-06-13 Thread R Dicaire
Hi folks,
Can both nsec and nsec3 records be used simultaneously in a zone file,
or is it an either/or?

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Re: nsec and nsec3 records

2009-06-13 Thread R Dicaire
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Evan Hunte...@isc.org wrote:
 Why would you want them both?  If you don't mind the drawbacks of NSEC,
 why take on the operational and computational burdens of NSEC3?

I don't know why, I'm simply not knowledgeable enough in DNSSEC deployment.
Currently I'm using bind 9.4.x, with NSEC records, but looking to move
to 9.6.1, in fact my slaves are already 9.6.1, but my master isn't
yet. I've recently read where .org has been signed, and using NSEC3. I
thought it might be a good idea to resign my zones using NSEC3, but
was unaware if both NSEC and NSEC3 were acceptable.

Is it too soon to go NSEC3? No doubt a good portion of DNSSEC-aware
resolvers arent NSEC3 capable yet, is this something I need to take
into account?

I use ISCs DLV, is NSEC3 an issue for that?

I don't grasp whats going to be involved in a move from NSEC to NSEC3.

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Re: [DNSSEC] SERVFAIL when resolving .gov through DLV

2009-05-05 Thread R Dicaire
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote:
 I get a SERVFAIL when trying to resolve .gov:

I get:

;  DiG 9.4.3-P2  +dnssec SOA gov.
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 32204
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags: do; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gov.   IN  SOA

;; ANSWER SECTION:
gov.259200  IN  SOA A.GOV.ZONEEDIT.COM.
govcontact.ZONEEDIT.COM. 1241524864 3600 900 1814400 86400
gov.259200  IN  RRSIG   SOA 7 1 259200
20090510110105 20090505110105 31802 gov.
WR3awt6m9j1C3o72BRR/SdFp5RrSOPLxSGV90DpQ0s+I2d9jp6RvR1vg
YFRuPtu2L8r+9/NSwEzOAVvXivEJJYTZYM3olNaO7j+EZHy81vCFW5Wl
iwyuo5pl1ITWdam//+m6wd67legEeYJOu4Xn929YQ6AHyNVUT/T7+XxK
Cwyp+8IrLb4AhVjWFCKROwfhyIGkmv+uMPe1p3zyT7zcSFB5oYVAYoK1
hBUUEmzYDSi5DHvctA+3tFu/PzVLM3Fz88sB+gDYoMO79dCbMgXegwA7
hKuwhk9SJzu3DylNdZpy4jQOtrtNRUFrCAgBY0bCwmNdfZBe2RSZvBKF O69QUw==

;; Query time: 231 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.1.6#53(192.168.1.6)
;; WHEN: Tue May  5 14:41:28 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 388

Whats missing is the RA flag...




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Re: Postgres v MySQL v Berkely backend for BIND

2009-05-04 Thread R Dicaire
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Stephen Carville
stephen.carvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone here have experience or an informed opinion in using a database
 backend to BIND?

I've been using the pgsql sdb backend for 5+ years, wrote my own php
front end to it.
Its been solid.

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ISC DLV dnssec

2009-04-05 Thread R Dicaire
Hi folks, last night the ISC server responsible for responding to DLV
lookups was apparently down. Since all lookups were failing due to a
lack of response from this server, bind couldn't resolve anything at
all. I had to comment out a couple lines in named.conf to restore
function.

bind-9.4.3-P2

Here's the dnssec configuration lines used in named.conf:

dnssec-enable yes;
dnssec-validation yes;
dnssec-lookaside . trust-anchor dlv.isc.org.;

trusted-keys {
dlv.isc.org. 257 3 5
BEPHMu/5onzrEE7z1egmhg/WPO0+juoZrW3euWEn4MxDCE1+lLy2
brhQv5rN32RKtMzX6Mj70jdzeN
D4XknW58dnJNPCxn8+jAGl2FZLK8t+
1uq4W+nnA3qO2+DL+k6BD4mewMLbIYFwe0PG73Te9fZ2kJb56dhgMde5
ymX4BI/oQ+cAK50/xvJv00Frf
8kw6ucMTwFlgPe+jnGxPPEmHAte/URk
Y62ZfkLoBAADLHQ9IrS2tryAe7mbBZVcOwIeU/Rw/mRx/vwwMCTgNboM
QKtUdvNXDrYJDSHZws3xiRXF
1Rf+al9UmZfSav/4NWLKjHzpT59k/VSt TDN0YUuWrBNh;
};

I'm not sure, but if a lookup fails dnssec auth, shouldn't bind treat
the answer as insecure, and return said answer?

In the scenario described above, I wasn't even able to get answers,
let alone whether said answers could be authenticated.
Bv9ARM.pdf is unclear regarding how bind should behave regarding use
of dnssec-validation directive.

Shouldn't the behaviour for DLV lookups be such that if the query
can't be answered by the DLV server, then fall back to a non-dnssec
lookup?

Perhaps there's a configuration issue I'm using that caused this
unexpected behaviour I describe?

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Re: ISC DLV dnssec

2009-04-05 Thread R Dicaire
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:
 Shouldn't the behaviour for DLV lookups be such that if the query
 can't be answered by the DLV server, then fall back to a non-dnssec
 lookup?

        No.

May I ask why?
I'm sure something was learned from whatever caused the DLV server to
malfunction, but was that kind of malfunction something we can look
forward to when . and TLDs are signed?
If that kind of breakage in lookups can occur, should there not be a
contingency to be able to continue to use the Internet when such
breakage occurs?
I could see online businesses panicking when something like this happens.

        There was a fault which caused RRSIG of the key signing key
        to be missing.  The key signing key is the one listed in
        the trusted-keys clause above.  This caused a break in the
        chain of trust as the DNSKEY RRset could not be validated
        which meant named could not determine if the answers to the
        DLV queries were valid or not and in turn the answers to
        all other queries.

Could you provide more details as to what specifically caused the fault?
Perhaps then other dns admins may learn something new to look for when
having to troubleshoot a similar problem. I know it would help me
further understand.

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Re: ISC DLV dnssec

2009-04-05 Thread R Dicaire
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Evan Hunt evan_h...@isc.org wrote:

 vigilant; this particular failure won't occur again.  And we were already
 in the process of making dlv.isc.org substantially more robust, so
 hopefully any similar breakages that might have come along in the future
 will be stopped before they happen.

Excellent.
But what about contingencies for continued dns resolution when an
unintended break in the chain of trust occurs?

 I expect this to influence future BIND development too (for example,
 dnssec-signzone will probably be learning to print a few more warning
 messages when it sees legal-but-weird input.)

This too is excellent, and I'd hope fixes be backported to 9.4 and 9.5
releases as well.

Thanks Paul for the response, very helpful and informative!
And kudos to the DLV folks for the service!

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Re: ISC DLV dnssec

2009-04-05 Thread R Dicaire
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:
        Named is still able to return answers if you tell it not to
        validate the answers by setting CD=1 in the query.  This flag
        is usually used when you have a validating resolver using another
        validating resolver to get its answers.

        When the lookups were failing answers like this were returned.

The one thing I didn't do was a direct dig itself. I was tailing
dnssec.log and watching the DLV lookups failing, and my web browser
was failing to load any site, reporting the hostname couldn't be
resolved.

Above, you mention setting CD=1 in the query. How is this done by
applications trying to resolve hostnames
when there's a problem like last nights? Would setting the named.conf
directive dnssec-validation no;
do this? (as I mentioned previously, I had to comment out
dnssec-validation and the trust anchor directive that points to ISC so
I could resolve queries)

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Re: name server zone list

2009-04-03 Thread R Dicaire
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chris Thompson c...@cam.ac.uk wrote:
 This one is hardy perennial, of course, but I've been working on an
 index zone in a certain local DNS context recently, and thinking
 how convenient it would have been if BIND had provided one for me
 (under class CHAOS, name zones.bind or something along those lines).
 I wonder whether this is on ISC's wish-list, and if so, how far down ...

The issue with something like this is it apparently requires
configuring views in order to be able to load zone(s) of non-default
type IN. Configuring views isn't always desired. Perhaps an option to
rndc though

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Re: name server zone list

2009-04-03 Thread R Dicaire
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Alan Clegg alan_cl...@isc.org wrote:
 The entire list of zones is available in XML format in the statistics
 channel in 9.5

 Yep, you need to parse for it, but it's there...

Hah beautiful, why reinvent the wheel :)
I've not yet moved to 9.5 simply because I haven't had the time to
modify perl scripts I use that read data from a 9.4 stats file and
input into mrtg/rrdtool, but with the featureset in 9.5 regarding
logging and stats, I'm going to have to make time.

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Re: SERVFAIL debugging

2009-03-13 Thread R Dicaire
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM, JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
jinmei_tat...@isc.org wrote:
 Please try 9.6.1b1, which we expect to be released next week.  It has a
 new experimental feature just for that purpose:


Is this feature going to be back ported to 9.4 and 9.5 releases as well?


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Re: Two outgoing queries for each incoming query

2009-03-12 Thread R Dicaire
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:43 AM, My Name mylistuser1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I want to setup a forwarder and each incoming query (in fact only A or )
 should be sent to two different upstream servers.

Why?
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Re: automatic resigning in 9.6.x

2009-03-07 Thread R Dicaire
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Evan Hunt evan_h...@isc.org wrote:

 BIND 9 has, I believe, always had some support for automatic signing in the
 case of zone updates--at least as far back as 9.3, and I haven't looked at
 anything earlier.  Basically, if you have a signed zone and you insert a
 new record, that record will automatically have an RRSIG generated for it.

Ok...so to implement this in bind 9.4.2-P2, I see the directive
sig-validity-interval in the ARM, if I set this to 1,
edit zone.db.signed, add a new entry, increment the serial, rndc
reload, what tells bind to resign the zone, and when?
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dnssec and sdb/dlz

2009-03-07 Thread R Dicaire
I haven't found any documentation on this, but is it possible to
implement dnssec/signed zones if the zone data exists in an sql db
instead of a zone file?

I know I can modify an sql table for a zone to have additional fields
(for sdb use) for the additional RR types, but will the sdb interface
recognize these?
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Re: connection timed out; no servers could be reached

2009-03-07 Thread R Dicaire
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Bill Landry b...@inetmsg.com wrote:
 I have to admit that I am a bit baffled by this one.  I can query
 against my bandwidth providers name servers (Comcast) and get name
 resolution just fine for the hostname www.malware.com.br:

Check firewall settings. Connection timed out is typically a firewall issue.

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arbitrary key names in named.conf

2009-03-07 Thread R Dicaire
I've been using the key file name as key name in named.conf for
simplicity, but I find that distros tend to use a default filename for
a host key, so can I just use the key contents and assign it an
arbitrary name in named.conf?

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